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18-06-2007, 08:22 PM | #121 | |||
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18-06-2007, 08:50 PM | #122 | ||
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So what would I need to use to run a typhoon engine?
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18-06-2007, 08:50 PM | #123 | |||
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and the ba use wheel speed sensor on each wheel that one i can think of straight away |
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18-06-2007, 08:52 PM | #124 | ||
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and also to properly engineer a xr6t eng you will need to go through emmision testing which will be harder under an aftermarket pcm
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18-06-2007, 09:09 PM | #125 | ||
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So what would I need to use to run a typhoon engine?
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18-06-2007, 09:30 PM | #126 | |||
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full engine full loom him module instrumet cluster Body electrics module interior command centre pcm so basically the whole dash and heater box and engine entire wiring and then youll still need to figure out a way to get the signal from the vss from an au gearbox to the ba ic |
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18-06-2007, 09:34 PM | #127 | ||
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Judging by the lack of responses to you REDAUXR6II I think its one of those "If you have to ask you dont wanna know" type of deals.
From what I heard there were no aftermarket systems that would run the DVCT BUT according to revhead_88 there now is but its freaking expensive. Basically if you spent the money on that ems + engine + other random bits you could have built a very tough streeter out of your standard engine with new internals, turbo system, tranny, diff etc for the same money so it wouldnt really be worth it at the moment. BUT if you werent really concerned about using the VCT you could do it. But you would lose power etc. Hopefully soon there will be a cheaper alternative to the hell expensive motec
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18-06-2007, 09:36 PM | #128 | |||
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18-06-2007, 09:38 PM | #129 | ||
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yer there people running ba engines on piggy backs that i know of dansedgli for one (but hes banned now, have to go to ford mods to chat to him.) hes using a ems in his. and just not using the dvct i think hes either just gonna run them in most advanced or have adjustable verneirs
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18-06-2007, 09:40 PM | #130 | |||
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18-06-2007, 09:47 PM | #131 | |||
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maybe i better shutup and keep reading my workshop manuals |
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18-06-2007, 09:52 PM | #132 | ||
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Thanks revhead.. I was under the impression that most aftermarket units can run the BA motor no worries, or maybe it was because they arent running the dual vct with them. Its been a fair while since I went over this idea with FTG and GnD.. and it started looking like an expensive pain in the **** which is why I never went ahead with it.
I know Motec can do them, and speaking to a mate that just bought a motec it cost him $5,800 and its still in its box. |
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18-06-2007, 09:57 PM | #133 | |||
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just gotta justify spending so much. whereas i could simply rebuild mine and run a high boost reliable setup with the same if not less money... but its not as impressive as saying i got a xr6t engine in my eb or au. |
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18-06-2007, 09:58 PM | #134 | ||
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if there is such a thing as a reliable high boost setup...
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18-06-2007, 10:01 PM | #135 | ||
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Speak to Atomic Performance, they have packages to withstand 600fwkw... not bad for the old tractor motor.
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18-06-2007, 10:12 PM | #136 | ||
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yer damn... thats some real kws there... *sigh* if only i had money *sigh*
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19-06-2007, 08:41 AM | #137 | ||
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Yer well I think that I will just save up an get an AU XR8 II or BA XR6T.
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14-09-2007, 08:55 PM | #138 | |||
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use the cable to control the gear change if so how do you select D1,D2,D3. A BA g/box uses different resistor values to the ECU to select which gear when in sports shift mode. Why i ask is because i am fitting a BA auto g/box into my Charger with a Hemi 6 cylinder engine. I have the BA box from my BA , radiator ruptured & contaminated g/box i replaced it & will rebuild origonal for the Hemi. I am doing the mod to get overdrive & lock up converter to give good cruising mileage.Just did a trip to Melbourne from Adelaide in the BA & got 9.18 LT/ 100 Km for 1970Kms. (31.9 MPG). Any help would be appreciated. Brian. Will be in Melb early OCT. |
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01-09-2009, 02:15 PM | #139 | ||
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Seeing as FTG have had a lot of success on this front with a BA motor into an EB, why don't we try and figure out what can be done to get this working in an AU.
I know this has probably been done to death a thousand times but is the following possible? Running a BA Engine (n\a or turbo) from a BA ECU, reading the thread on fordmods they have found that you only require the main engine loom to run these from the ECU once the security has been removed. Then running the remainder of the AU from the factory AU ECU so in affect a piggy back type solution? What would stop one from running the engine\running gear from one ECU and the BEM and others from another ECU? Link to fordmods thread Link |
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01-09-2009, 03:02 PM | #140 | ||
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01-09-2009, 03:17 PM | #141 | ||
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I have spoken to FTG and they have said it is possible to run both ECU's together to get this work properly.
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01-09-2009, 06:06 PM | #142 | ||
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SWEET!! ill never have to upgrade to a b series plug and play sounds wicked that you can use the au auto woops didn't relise that this was an old thread. sorry guys, how ever is it worth the engine upgrade rather than buying a b series?
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05-11-2009, 08:35 PM | #143 | ||
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so you can have BA engine, AU wiring loom, AU gearbox and AU and BA ECU's? is this correct? Wouldnt you need to out the BA bellhousing onto the AU gearbox to get it to work?
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26-11-2009, 10:39 AM | #144 | ||
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Correct u can use the AU gearbox and AU bellhousing, most of the AU accessories will bolt up to the BA, but I am going to use BA parts as much as I can.
I have spoken to Herrod, BPT and FTG and through my own study I have found the following: Speedo will work - you can use the AU gearbox to retain the speedo sensor, or you can use a T56 6 speed and get the sensor welded onto the gearbox by malwood. oil pressure and fuel level will work Tacho - not sure about this one, the tacho needs a tacho output from the ECU to operate, might have to go aftermarket. Herrod will make a wiring loom to allow the engine to start without all the other parts attached (BEM, smart lock, etc), they can also do an edit for the engine to allow it to start without the security in place. The only one I haven't found an aswer to is whether or not the AU BEM will chuck a spastic if the ECU is not connected. It would most likely display a check engine light on the dash. |
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26-11-2009, 10:57 AM | #145 | ||
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so what kind of price are we looking at for a BA/BF engine into an AU, fully installed with labour etc? just wondering here...
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26-11-2009, 11:11 AM | #146 | ||
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ill tell u once I have added up all the dockets at the end of my conversion
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26-11-2009, 07:58 PM | #147 | ||
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So who has done a B-Series motor including 6 speed auto into AU? What would be required as far as hardware?? - money not a prime consideration but cheapest solution naturally preferred.
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27-05-2011, 11:38 PM | #148 | ||
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Have been thinking about doing this to my series 1 fairmont. as i have access to a cheap motor with loom and ecu out of a bf II, was wondering what progress has been made and if its worth the trouble
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28-05-2011, 02:05 AM | #149 | ||
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it would be nice to have the extra grunt of a b series motor in the au without a doubt and full marks to any one giving it a go, personally i think its too many headaches, if it was for myself wanting a decent power upgrade i`d do a drive in drive out capa blower (probably less money needed) , or just purchase a ba for possibly less money again.
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28-05-2011, 05:19 PM | #150 | ||
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is there much difference in the power the AU block can withstand compared to the BA block?
I presume yes as the BA's have the option turbo'd engine. any figures? but for the cost it would seem easier to wack a blower on the au engine for similar results
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