"" MAYAN CALANDER ""

[Ducati888]

The Shuttle can't go outside orbit because it's rocket boosters aren't big enough to get it there. The Apollo rocket was more than double the size.

What do you mean they never went back? They sent 7 Apollo moonshots, 6 of which made it. 12 men have walked on the moon from 6 successful missions. Apollo 13 never made it.

They learned as much as they needed to and cancelled the last two Apollo shots because of the costs of the Vietnam war.

We haven't gone back because we beat the Russians there - the main reason why we went. Also, there's nothing there. Mankind will go back. China will be the next country to land men and/or women on the moon.

What you've read, GTFPV, is obviously crap.

Beware of the truth. It's hidden out there in books and on the internet.

[Ducati888]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

why is it that people who seem to know the answers ridicule and call others nutbags and idiots ?

Because the truth is so easy to find.

I wasn't referring to you gtfpv, I was referring to conspiracy theorists in general.

Sorry if you took it personally.

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by Ducati888

Because the truth is so easy to find.

I wasn't referring to you gtfpv, I was referring to conspiracy theorists in general.

Sorry if you took it personally.

no worries mate . i think this is an interesting topic , but i'll bowe out a little now , dont want to ruin it , and look forward to reading the outcome of future posts here , imagine when 2013 ticks around, how many people will be dropping off the internet . lol. regarding space flight, i simply love it, one of our best achievements ever .

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

Rodp. you asked me if noah collected 2 of every animal and squeeze them onto an ark or not . my answer with my head is NO WAY , but i wasnt really there, so i cant prove it , one thing i can say is if it did happen , it was miraculous, moreso than probable , just as jesus feeding 2000 people with one basket of bread rolls , whos to say it did or didnt happen . thats my train of thought , nobody has come back from the dead that i know of to tell me there is life after death, so i wont know untill someone does , or i die , just as you . if you say it isnt true and is impossible , then you are only relying on your own source, not what someone else told you . and you are only one person , people like you tend to rule out all possibilities , that is logical , but it isnt the world we live in mate, evry 50 years or so the world is a different place. there are ancient artifacts seen from the air , such as airport runways , signs etc, that nobody can explain , ruling them out is closed in thought , science doesnt explain everything , and can be challanged and fairly opposed in many things.

Our understanding of what is around us grows every day. It gives us the power to look into the past and determine events with a reasonable certainty. Noah packing on ~10 million animals onto an ark, gathered from all parts of the world? Inconclusive because I wasn't there. Unacceptable.

The acts performed by Jesus were documented well after his death by people that weren't there. Some of them hundreds of years after his death. All we have on these stories is the power to sift through what may be truth and what may be inserted to provide a 'good story'. You seem to work on the basis that anything written in a book describing an event more than say, a generation in the past must be true or at the least, cannot be disproven?

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i might get shot down in flames for this , but doesn't science tell us that it is impossible for man to go to the moon ? just asking . because we either can go scientifically , or we cant ( van allen belt as the basis of this question )

The quick exposure, the shielding and the sympathetic trajectory taken was considered to pose as minimal risk to the astronauts travelling through them.

There's no science that tells us it's impossible for man to walk on the Moon. Man has achieved it. NASA has submitted proposals for manned missions to Mars. Would be a monumental waste of their time and resources if we're trapped by Van Allen and his pesky belt.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i'm going to say , i dont believe we went there , otherwise we'd still be going today with much more technology and safety.+ the little topics of read about the technology and science facts of the van allen belt , once agian though , this is only what i've read the rest ive concluded .
its rational for me to believe that jesus perfomed the impossible with miraculous ability , i dont think mans science is miraculous .
sorry to go off topic , but i find it interesting , and hope it doesnt offend , but this is in the bar , and like i said , i hope a little debate is allowed .

It's interesting to me that you disbelieve one event that many people today were not only witness to, but part of - the data, overwhelming evidence and samples recovered from the Moon by Apollo missions are still studied today. However, you don't question the 'biography' and events of a historic figure by scholars hundreds of years after his death?

It costs tens of billions of dollars to shoot men to the Moon, what purpose would it serve them today? NASA has submitted a proposal at a Mars manned mission, though.

China have declared interest on putting a man on the Moon. I suspect probably for the same reason the US did it, to flex their might. I recall India also had an interest in it but not sure if their intentions were as strong as that of China's.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by chevypower

As far as the Mayan calendar goes, the only thing I know about it, is it ends at 2012 and we do not know why.

You know why? Probably because in all of their wisdom they realised there would be a high chance that they wouldn't be around anymore or they where just too lazy.

The calder on my wall only goes to the end of 2011, not to 2911.

The Calender on Windows 7 only goes to 2099, does that mean the end of the world will happen 2099 because the Microsoft Calender has predicted so?

[irish2]

I think it has been proven beyond a doubt that man went to the moon. The Americans did lose the space race however.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by irish2

I think it has been proven beyond a doubt that man went to the moon. The Americans did lose the space race however.

No they actually won it by accident.

The first man made object in space was not Sputnik, it was a steel and concrete plug used to fill in the hole in an early underground nuclear test that got ejected during detonation and is STILL travelling.......

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

You know why? Probably because in all of their wisdom they realised there would be a high chance that they wouldn't be around anymore or they where just too lazy.

The calder on my wall only goes to the end of 2011, not to 2911.

The Calender on Windows 7 only goes to 2099, does that mean the end of the world will happen 2099 because the Microsoft Calender has predicted so?

I think you are right, I just don't know if there was a specific reason for ending it at 2012. I don't believe they thought the world was going to end, but there could have been some other significance they had in mind. On the other hand, it could also be by chance. Like people are saying, it couldn't have gone on forever.

[irish2]

Originally Posted by flappist

No they actually won it by accident.

The first man made object in space was not Sputnik, it was a steel and concrete plug used to fill in the hole in an early underground nuclear test that got ejected during detonation and is STILL travelling.......

Ahh but the original gentlemens agreement for the space race was to complete 1 full orbit of the earth with a man. Russia beat them to it. That is when they changed the rules to being the first on the moon.

[MITCHAY]

I recall watching a special a few weeks ago on TV about all the big natural disasters of late. They had all the people with the tin foil hats on talking about how to survive and bunker down.

Seriously if it were the end of the world which I doubt whats the point in worrying yourself over it.

You can't do anything to stop it and would you really want to survive if at all possible. Just live your life!

[XESP351]

This thread should be retitled 'Blame everything on Christianity Thread'. Should have been closed as soon as the bashing started imo....

[pitpal]

You never hear anyone slag off islam or judaism?? Its because christianity is a soft target. Gutless IMO. Just like the spineless fools putting on an offensive concert on good friday!

Was it not prophesised that christianity is to be persecuted in the end days??? Before the terrible judge comes down from above

[XESP351]

It's a disgrace, respect is a rare commodity these days.

And yes it was written Christianity would be prosecuted near the end of days, natural disasters, wars, Islam wide spreading. Most of the signs are there (search for green horse on youtube) but some have not yet happened, so unless some dramatic things happen in the next 18 months, the whole 2012 world end thing is rubbish.

[JPFS1]

Originally Posted by elgt146

Some more fuel.....

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and thats what makes everyone different.
My opinion is the bible was formed and has been hacked at over many years.
It was originally designed to control the masses of the people to which is still does to some degree. If you sin you go to hell. Be good or else. Churches still have a great amount of power. Look at George Bush and his buddies. Fortunately the walls are starting to crumble.

The bible forgot to mention reincarnation which just happens to be in every other spiritual religion. Why? For control of the people. When people are scared they can be controlled.

Look at the fear we live in now. Terrorism etc. Life is no different, it has been made out to be different by media, governments, churches and the powers to be. We now perceive life differently.

Does a cow now live in fear of getting blown up? No because life is still the same, no different to the cow. The cow still perceives everyday as another.


As I said everyone is entitled to their own opinions so I don't want to start anything but I believe when you start to look at the broader picture of the jigsaw of life things come together in a different perspective.


And I am not an Alien, I'm your Favourite Martian. :-)

Does a cow have a sense of self?

[XESP351]

Originally Posted by JPFS1

Does a cow have a sense of self?

[JPFS1]

Sorry I haven't read the pages of this thread, just the 1st page and a bit...

Just tell me.. has thread covered 9/11...? whether it was an inside job..? NWO? etc etc...? End of the world in 2012?

I was interested in how it started off, but not so interested in how I think it's turned out.. ;)

[Texas f-150]

Originally Posted by JPFS1

Sorry I haven't read the pages of this thread, just the 1st page and a bit...

Just tell me.. has thread covered 9/11...? whether it was an inside job..? NWO? etc etc...? End of the world in 2012?

I was interested in how it started off, but not so interested in how I think it's turned out.. ;)

Ill jump in, 911 was a false flag event, and bin laden has been dead for years. Thats why bush said he dosent really think about him (osama)much. because if they caught him people would ask "can we end the war now?" which was not in their intrest. and now that obama has proven to be another lying politician and his numbers were in the shitter, they rolled him out, and bang, 20+point jump in the polls and gadaffi can be the new boogey man.

[DJR-351]

World ends on weekend

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/OddS...nd_615294.html

Friday, May 20, 2011 » 01:48pm

A Christian cult has revealed that the world will end on Saturday 21st May.

Harold Camping, the 89-year-old founder of a Christian sect that interpretes the Bible's 'numerological' messages, has informed listeners that the world will end on Saturday May 21.

He has based his complex calculations on a model which equates five with 'atonement', ten with 'completeness' and 17 with 'heaven'.

Familyradio.com says God 'wants us to know that exactly 7000 years after He destroyed the world with water in Noah's day, He plans to destroy the entire world forever'.

Some of us will get the weekend off however, as the final fire ball isn't due until October 21st.

Well that throws a spanner in the works, i had plans for the weekend....

[flappist]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

World ends on weekend

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/OddS...nd_615294.html



Well that throws a spanner in the works, i had plans for the weekend....

You have another 12 hours.....get cracking

[dansedgli]

Originally Posted by Texas f-150

Ill jump in, 911 was a false flag event, and bin laden has been dead for years. Thats why bush said he dosent really think about him (osama)much. because if they caught him people would ask "can we end the war now?" which was not in their intrest. and now that obama has proven to be another lying politician and his numbers were in the shitter, they rolled him out, and bang, 20+point jump in the polls and gadaffi can be the new boogey man.

If that was the case then don't you think Bush would have used it to stay in office?

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by flappist

You have another 12 hours.....get cracking

And i have the Flu, talk about **** timing

Atleast the V8's are on..

[Matty4]

Originally Posted by dansedgli

If that was the case then don't you think Bush would have used it to stay in office?

He did stay in office.
They are only able to run for 2 terms, 8 years max. Then they must bow out and let others have a go.

[Rodp]

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

Atleast the V8's are on..

Ahh but what about race 2 ??
Does this mean Whincup is the 2011 champ ??
What about car of the future ??
Is this why TC sold out, coincidence, did he know ??

So many questions, so little time.....

[burnz]

are we dead there yet??

[__MFP__]

Originally Posted by falcon91

Is this post for real or what!!! If them Mayans where so smart, how did 400 Spanish conquistadors and 1 female traitorous Mayan interpreter wipe them out. They didn't see THAT coming.

I know it has already been mentioned that you are confused with the aztecs instead. so im going a little off topic here but i have to say that the only reason such great cultures (both of them) were wiped out was because of a sickness brought over by the spanish called Smallpox. I think you will find that the Aztecs absolutely ********d the Spanish up combat wise.

ok so back on topic (a little)

Originally Posted by elgt146

I might also add that not only the Mayan calendar talks of changes in year 2012 but also, Budhism, Hindu, Islam, Christianity and all other religions talk about major changes in and around 2012.

The reason hinduism, buddhism, christianity ect ect all have simmilarities with the Mayan calendar is because they all focus their religion off the sun, except they have given the sun a persona. thats why the religious calendars match up with the Mayan calendar. they are the same thing.

Jesus-25th Dec
the Roman god Sol Invictus-25th Dec
Osirus and Horus-25th Dec
Mithras-25th Dec
and im sure there are others

the Mayans kept it nice and simple if you ask me

[buggo]

I was reading about this, turns out he thought it was meant to be in 1994, however, when the day came and went, turns out he maade some 'mathematical errors'.

Harold Camping has warned that the Rapture would come on May 21st 2011 for years, and end nears, many are left questioning if his Prophecy is fake. The Bible has taught Christians to always be ready for the Second Coming of Jesus at any time, sparking Judgement Day predictions throughout history. Even Harold Camping had a previous prediction of the Return of Jesus for the Rapture that was incorrect due to a mathematical error – when his September 1994 date came and went without incident.

Have a read here,

[Ralliart]

nothing will happen just like y2k and science experiment they were doing last year.