iPhone 5 Announced - Page 5

Jack960 · 15-09-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

they also pulled most of his personal info from his old phone from Apple cyberspace somewhere.

Yeah its getting pretty bad. Google saves every bit of information that is put in it. In 2004 there servers could hold 20+ petabytes, that's 20,000+ terabytes, there servers have increased by a factor of 16 since then, with the advancements in data storage, who knows how much space that is. There servers account for 1.3% of the worlds electricity, i mean holy ****.

I love technology and think it's a necessity for the future, but privacy and technology cant really coincide

brydie76 · 16-09-2012, 07:15 AM

That pulling of personal info would likely be an iCloud backup. Something you have to agree to on setting up the phone (alternative is computer backups). Yes, can be scary if you aren't aware of it, but as I said, you click to allow it. Know that prior to iCloud when I had my phone replaced, had to restore everything from my computer, and my settings definitely weren't the same- turns out for some reason the setting to block my number was on and I didn't realise for 2 days!!!

Only thing I would say is that it could perhaps be improved is that Apple could be more transparent- eg saying that iCloud will back everything up including contacts, messages, etc on their external servers. It may already do that though, I haven't set up an iPhone in a long time.

Dusty1 · 16-09-2012, 09:24 AM

There was a tread about the govts proposal for keeping Internet records by ISPs.

Google and Apple do this, and there is very little regulation involved. If you're concerned by the Internet proposal, you should also go back to a dumb phone as the smart phone is probably easier to track both for location and what you are doing on it.

My poor XF · 16-09-2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Don't laugh... it already happens.

My brother in law had his iphone fail after 1 month. He took it to the Apple store in the city and not only did they replace the phone, they also pulled most of his personal info from his old phone from Apple cyberspace somewhere.

The phone he got back was 95% like his old one. Contacts, settings, I think even txt messages etc.

Apparently it is all automatically saved for this very reason. He had no clue it was happening, wonder how many people do?

Everything backs up to the cloud and to your iTunes account so if you do change phones you can maintain everything you had on the old one. All you need to do is sign into you apple account on the new device. All my I devices are backed up to the cloud so whenever I buy something on say my iPad it also downloads to my phone.

Yellow_Festiva · 16-09-2012, 10:47 AM

Sounds like a good idea in theory I guess. His main shock was that he didn't know that actually happened.

English isn't his forte, so he may have clicked to agree or accept something without fully knowing what it meant I guess.

I will ask around work on monday how many people know all their info is stored by apple.

Does this only apply to itunes or any iphone? I assume all iphones already have itunes by default??

My poor XF · 16-09-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Sounds like a good idea in theory I guess. His main shock was that he didn't know that actually happened.

English isn't his forte, so he may have clicked to agree or accept something without fully knowing what it meant I guess.

I will ask around work on monday how many people know all their info is stored by apple.

Does this only apply to itunes or any iphone? I assume all iphones already have itunes by default??

Yep, you can't use an iPhone without it unless you jailbreak them.

I have my stuff backed up to my laptop and not the cloud.

H.G · 16-09-2012, 01:49 PM

Im backed up to the cloud and the computer.. you just never know when your going to have failure....

and I still dont get everyones hostility to Itunes.. its the best program ever....
Ive got my entire music movie and tv show catalogued with album/Dvd covers Years of release artist they are all in one format etc etc..
its like totally rad ya know. god forbid ever having to use Winamp again.. man that was messy..

Spudz27 · 16-09-2012, 02:54 PM

You can opt out of the cloud. I know with my iphone I switched the backup to cloud off. I backed up to my PC only. The great thing about my SIII is it told me it could see an iphone backup on my laptop and would I like to transfer my contacts, video's, pics etc. I only chose contacts, but man was that easier than typing them all in again lol.

Whitey-AMG · 16-09-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack960

Jesus, people are actually going to buy this crap? Its screen is 8mm taller and the device is 30 grams lighter. Its processor is SLIGHTLY faster.
Its a lighter, tiny bit bigger version of the Iphone 4S and yet people will still fork out all there money for it.
The Iphone has essentially not changed since the original, just minor upgrades.

I find this amusing seeing as the HTC and Samsung models were released months ago, both with quad core processing, more ram, new screen technology, new android operating systems, all new useful features. With about 5 months of extra time, Apple couldn't come up with anything?

No wondering they are trying to sue Samsung and patent the style of the phone.

So why don't you sell your Falc and buy a Hyundai. It has heaps more gimmicks , better on fuel , has all the latest updates and gimmicks that Ford have yet to release.......yet surprisingly, people still go and buy the antiquated Ford product.....yep....beats the hell out of me.......

OffRoadFalcon · 16-09-2012, 06:56 PM

Who cares about the phone, are they updating the iPod Touches???

I've haddit with the crappiness of the wifi recievers in them!! And they get full of bugs too quickly...

brydie76 · 16-09-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Grinzy

Who cares about the phone, are they updating the iPod Touches???

I've haddit with the crappiness of the wifi recievers in them!! And they get full of bugs too quickly...

Heavily updated, new form factor with same screen as iPhone 5, better internals and storage I think as well. You can get it in all different colours too ala iPod nano- sure to appeal to kids who wanted one any in the Christmas stocking!

Ben73 · 16-09-2012, 08:53 PM

There is only one thing funnier then people who have 10 apple products which do very similar things, the people who hate apple with a passion.
Seriously who gives a ****. If people are obsessed with apple big deal, hating on them for being popular is a million times worse.

Nikked · 16-09-2012, 08:57 PM

So...this new iPhone 5 does basically everything my S2 does?

Mind you, i own a ipod...an Antiuqe 80 gig brick with a click wheel and tiny screen...

**Grunter** · 17-09-2012, 04:50 PM

FF member A: Owns a iPhone and posts all other smartphones are crap.
FF member B: Owns a Android based smartphone and posts that iPhones are crap (and Apple is the devil incarnate).
FF member C: Wants a Windows 8 mobile and thinks all other phones are crap (while hoping the BSD still isn't a standard feature).
FF member D: Owns neither, and posts that a mobile should only be about making calls and thinks all smartphones are crap.
FF member E: Doesn't care either way, but while reading this thread imagines replacing the word "iPhone" with "Ford" and the words "Andriod, Samsung, etc" with Holden and gets a good laugh.

tregs · 17-09-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunter

FF member A: Owns a iPhone and posts all other smartphones are crap.
FF member B: Owns a Android based smartphone and posts that iPhones are crap (and Apple is the devil incarnate).
FF member C: Wants a Windows 8 mobile and thinks all other phones are crap (while hoping the BSD still isn't a standard feature).
FF member D: Owns neither, and posts that a mobile should only be about making calls and thinks all smartphones are crap.
FF member E: Doesn't care either way, but while reading this thread imagines replacing the word "iPhone" with "Ford" and the words "Andriod, Samsung, etc" with Holden and gets a good laugh.

Best post do far it's only a phone dam I'm sure there are more important things to worry about

first world problems haha

Jack960 · 18-09-2012, 12:22 AM

Well I sell pc's and phones, repair them, set up networks and install software etc, general tech stuff. From experience I can say apple tech ain't great, very hard to work with and you pay more for less. I try to not be biased, keep an open mind, but it's hard.

They do make a good mp3 player tho, ipod classics and ipod touches. Had both for a few years and pretty sure they will out live me.

XWGT · 18-09-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tregs

Best post do far it's only a phone dam I'm sure there are more important things to worry about

first world problems haha

Well..........actually its not. And thats the point.

Phones have become very clever marketing tools to other items.

Your phone will determine

How you purchase music / movies - iTunes / Zune / Android
How you store music / media - cloud / stream / subscription / Skydrive etc
How you share music / media in your home - Apple TV / Win Media Player / etc
How you use media in your car - Bluetooth stream full / partial
How you work - Office integration / Non office integration from the OS etc. Full MS suite or various equivalents.
How you communicate - iMessage / Skype / a million other apps
Which Telco you spend with - network types / network coverage / bundling with your other telco products.
How you live. - Do you want NFC in the next 12 months or not?

So no, it isnt just a phone. And Apple Microsoft and Samsung know this very very well.

If it wasnt for my wifes love of the iPhone, the chances of an iMac ever entering our house would have been nill. Until that point we were full MS with MS media servers and players. However we now have an iMac, iPad and Apple TV even though neither is technically best in class. However they integrate well and do a good job. The hidden effect though is just how much it changes your technical world and as per the list above, effects how you do many many things and what you spend your $ on.

Sorry for the long answer to a short question but I think its the aspect that is often overlooked when talking about phone choice.

**Peuty** · 18-09-2012, 08:57 PM

Nah sorry dude, it's still just a phone...

XWGT · 19-09-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Nah sorry dude, it's still just a phone...

Lets check back in two years time and see.......

GTpilot · 19-09-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack960

Well I sell pc's and phones, repair them, set up networks and install software etc, general tech stuff. From experience I can say apple tech ain't great, very hard to work with and you pay more for less. I try to not be biased, keep an open mind, but it's hard.

Lol...Well I run the IT and infrastructure teams for one of this country's largest online companies, we have many and varied technology footprints through out the business, including a dedicated digital devices development team, marketing, web design, java and .net developers, accounts team, legal, etc, etc. I have several staff who are constantly supporting, testing, troubleshooting and evaluating these things every day.

I don't agree with you!
We have two main issues with apple products, their accounts department sucks, and they are slow to put apps though the app store, both we have found work arounds for.
Now, where do I start on all the other platforms we manage.

At the end of they day they are all consumer devices, be it Apple, android (in its many varied formats and hardware platforms) or windows, and they all suck in several ways, but excell in others.
It's exactly the same debate as to who makes the best cars, home theatres, TVs, the list goes on.

There is something else these devices ALL do well, create some great debates that keeps people entertained for hours.

HLC · 19-09-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by XWGT

Lets check back in two years time and see.......

In 2 years I still won't care...

TheSneakiness · 19-09-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Grunter

FF member E: Doesn't care either way, but while reading this thread imagines replacing the word "iPhone" with "Chery" and the words "Andriod, Samsung, etc" with Koenigsegg and gets a good laugh.

Fixed.

Chopped · 19-09-2012, 11:31 AM

Apple iPhone - All the Adjectives >

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BETSuT2RNLs

I have an iPhone, MacBook Pro, iPad, iPod as well as Windows based PCs and laptops.
I use them all for each need that they offer.

Successful marketers have given brands an emotional attachment. Which footy team do you follow....

**GasoLane** · 19-09-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XWGT

Well..........actually its not.

Well..... for me it is.

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Originally Posted by XWGT

#1 How you purchase music / movies - iTunes / Zune / Android
#2 How you store music / media - cloud / stream / subscription / Skydrive etc
#3 How you share music / media in your home - Apple TV / Win Media Player / etc
#4 How you use media in your car - Bluetooth stream full / partial
#5 How you work - Office integration / Non office integration from the OS etc. Full MS suite or various equivalents.
#6 How you communicate - iMessage / Skype / a million other apps
#7 Which Telco you spend with - network types / network coverage / bundling with your other telco products.
#8 How you live. - Do you want NFC in the next 12 months or not?

#1 I don't buy music from any of them. I want music I can keep, so I buy CD's
#2 My music is stored on CD's
#3 Share music ?........... Insert CD in CD player, play music.
#4 Again, CD's.
#5 The only computer systems in my office is used for running the vehicle and satellite tracking.
#6 SMS, phone or shout.
#7 Vodafail, but they don't know who else I'm with.
#8 NFC ? Not interested...anyway if the iPhoney 5 hasn't got it, it cant be worthwhile

(exit sarcasm mode....)

XWGT · 19-09-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Well..... for me it is.

#1 I don't buy music from any of them. I want music I can keep, so I buy CD's
#2 My music is stored on CD's
#3 Share music ?........... Insert CD in CD player, play music.
#4 Again, CD's.
#5 The only computer systems in my office is used for running the vehicle and satellite tracking.
#6 SMS, phone or shout.
#7 Vodafail, but they don't know who else I'm with.
#8 NFC ? Not interested...anyway if the iPhoney 5 hasn't got it, it cant be worthwhile

(exit sarcasm mode....)

This all providing a good chuckle :-) I think I will bookmark this and revisit it in 2 years.

**Peuty** · 19-09-2012, 01:54 PM

I really don't get the point you are trying to make with the whole to years thing. Like HLC, I will won't care.

Rodp · 19-09-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

Nah sorry dude, it's still just a phone...

We're on a forum dedicated to our love of Fords, many of my friends would say to me, sorry dude, it's just a car.

XR6T0Y · 19-09-2012, 02:16 PM

Why oh Why can't we just agree to disagree

XWGT · 19-09-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peuty

I really don't get the point you are trying to make with the whole to years thing. Like HLC, I will won't care.

Its not about the phone........any phone.......lets leave it there......

Noddy · 19-09-2012, 04:40 PM

I've had all iPhone handsets since the original and from memory haven't had issue with any of them. Someone knocked off my 4 after six months ownership which was a pita. I've pre-ordered a 5 after watching the launch on YouTube and its new features are IMO worth going apple again. I had samsung Siii to use for while and I think it's a better phone than the 4S in many ways but i found it difficult operate with one hand like the iPhone. Trying to tap out an SMS or email is a two handed operation for me. The 5 screen is slightly longer but width is similar to the 4 so im assuming there will be little difference in operation.
Maybe I'm just a fanboy.....

My biggest gripes with apple gear would be flash websites, having to do friggin software updates every three weeks (so it seems) and what they charge us for a song download in Oz is criminal compared to other countries.