Announcement 6pm 29th March - F150 Is Coming to Australia - Page 5

Franco Cozzo · 04-04-2022, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by b0son

why is that? I'd have thought with the move to electric steering, it would be easier than ever? crash safety ratings seem to place a greater emphasis on gadgets than ever before.

You either have an electric motor on the column providing the assistance, as the steering shaft goes through it (you see this on WS Fiesta onwards) or the electric motor is on the steering rack providing assistance.

It just eliminates the power steering pump and fluid reservoir, everything else is still there.

'Steer by wire' would be an interesting concept, which no doubt probably already exists, I'm suspect on regulations allowing no mechanical connection to such a critical component though. If you lose EPAS or traditional power steering you can still steer it, just without the assistance.

Bossxr8 · 04-04-2022, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

You either have an electric motor on the column providing the assistance, as the steering shaft goes through it (you see this on WS Fiesta onwards) or the electric motor is on the steering rack providing assistance.

It just eliminates the power steering pump and fluid reservoir, everything else is still there.

'Steer by wire' would be an interesting concept, which no doubt probably already exists, I'm suspect on regulations allowing no mechanical connection to such a critical component though. If you lose EPAS or traditional power steering you can still steer it, just without the assistance.

Infiniti had steer by wire on one of their models a few years ago, but it still had a mechanical connection in case it failed. It never took off though, and I think they canned it.

Vesper Martini · 04-04-2022, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Infiniti had steer by wire on one of their models a few years ago, but it still had a mechanical connection in case it failed. It never took off though, and I think they canned it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoSodr3J-WI

DK30RB · 04-04-2022, 04:49 PM

From what i can see - The steering rack is re-manufactured and reversed. Seems to be mounted upside down. I'm not a mechanical engineer, so not 100% sure.

Steering column comes out of the firewall from where the AC pipes used to go... i think.

AC pipes now go through the old steering column opening. It all "looks" like its been built that way.

Anyway, 30,000km on, its all holding up quite well.

**DFB FGXR6** · 04-04-2022, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Infiniti had steer by wire on one of their models a few years ago, but it still had a mechanical connection in case it failed. It never took off though, and I think they canned it.

And an utter waste of time if they still have to provide the mechanical connection. More complexity, more to go wrong, worse steering "feel".

shewi6 · 08-04-2022, 06:26 PM

Interestingly I have already seen plenty of ads for f150 on tv during the f1 and nrl on fox sports, getting the hype out early.

jpd80 · 02-05-2022, 05:31 PM

Just saw F-150 segment on the news, reporter asked how long to convert to RHD, the Ford Rep said about 36 hours…
That’s a long way down from Walkinshaw’s original 140 hrs down to half 60-70 hrs, OEM help is to Ford’s advantage…

Dr Smith · 02-05-2022, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Just saw F-150 segment on the news, reporter asked how long to convert to RHD, the Ford Rep said about 36 hours…
That’s a long way down from Walkinshaw’s original 140 hrs down to half 60-70 hrs, OEM help is to Ford’s advantage…

And billboards all over Melbourne for a few weeks now...guess same interstate.

Franco Cozzo · 02-05-2022, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

And billboards all over Melbourne for a few weeks now...guess same interstate.

You mean there's billboards around that aren't yellow FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM ones

Dr Smith · 03-05-2022, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

You mean there's billboards around that aren't yellow FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM ones

apparently so...maybe they forget to sms the ad companies stating they wanted every site bought up for the next few weeks...

Rob 351 · 03-05-2022, 07:22 AM

Talked to my local Ford dealer on Sunday about the new 150 and they told me I probably knew more about what’s going on with 150’s than they do! Then tried to sell me a PX3 Ranger!

XR Martin · 13-05-2022, 11:15 AM

Rumors are this may not be going ahead. These were meant to be converted in Australia (with various government grants involved), however Ford shifted the work to overseas.
Apparently this has caused big issues and Ford may be pulling the plug.

Crazy Dazz · 13-05-2022, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Yeah I too didn't realise this at first, But EPAS still has the physical Steering shaft connected. could be something to do with electric failure you still have manual steering as an overide.

So you thought they were making cars that could be rendered completely uncontrollable by a blown fuse?

BENT_8 · 13-05-2022, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Rumors are this may not be going ahead. These were meant to be converted in Australia (with various government grants involved), however Ford shifted the work to overseas.
Apparently this has caused big issues and Ford may be pulling the plug.

Or, they've started shipping new Ranger to Australia and want people to buy it in the interim via a rumour that F truck might not happen.

GTLEGEND · 13-05-2022, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Rumors are this may not be going ahead. These were meant to be converted in Australia (with various government grants involved), however Ford shifted the work to overseas.
Apparently this has caused big issues and Ford may be pulling the plug.

False information, its going ahead.

https://www.ford.com.au/showroom/fut...cle/ford-f-150

Dr Smith · 13-05-2022, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Or, they've started shipping new Ranger to Australia and want people to buy it in the interim via a rumour that F truck might not happen.

I didn't realise F-150 sales were going to hurt Ranger sales so much Ford Aust need to stoke the fires to keep interest in Ranger.

Bossxr8 · 13-05-2022, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Rumors are this may not be going ahead. These were meant to be converted in Australia (with various government grants involved), however Ford shifted the work to overseas.
Apparently this has caused big issues and Ford may be pulling the plug.

That is the most ridiculous rumour i've ever heard.

The work is happening here, RMA have bought a factory to do the work ffs. I've literally been to Ford dealer and press previews within the last few days and they have had RHD F series there to promote them going on sale next year

Franco Cozzo · 13-05-2022, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

That is the most ridiculous rumour i've ever heard.

The work is happening here, RMA have bought a factory to do the work ffs. I've literally been to Ford dealer and press previews within the last few days and they have had RHD F series there to promote them going on sale next year

I was also involved in said project but from their supply chain side of the RHD F150

Yearly volume is sizeable for smaller local suppliers involved, it's a great thing for local independent businesses.

XR Martin · 13-05-2022, 02:08 PM

Really hope I'm wrong, but on the other hand I was one of the first to mention that the Raptor would have an Ecoboost and at the time everyone, including 'Ford people' said I was wrong.

Bossxr8 · 13-05-2022, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Really hope I'm wrong, but on the other hand I was one of the first to mention that the Raptor would have an Ecoboost and at the time everyone, including 'Ford people' said I was wrong.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

csv8 · 13-05-2022, 04:10 PM

Ford have a billboard on the M1 Gold Coast. a picture of the F150 and the caption "Something BIG is Coming"

jpd80 · 13-05-2022, 07:30 PM

Nice to see F150 coming to Australia, I hope they sell a ton of them

jpd80 · 13-05-2022, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

That is the most ridiculous rumour i've ever heard.

The work is happening here, RMA have bought a factory to do the work ffs. I've literally been to Ford dealer and press previews within the last few days and they have had RHD F series there to promote them going on sale next year

I hear your frustration, a lot of the rumours are just that, disinformation.

Once F150s start rolling out of the plant, all the BS rumours stop,
I can’t wait to see modded EB35s storming down the road

jpd80 · 13-05-2022, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Really hope I'm wrong

You’re wrong.

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but on the other hand I was one of the first to mention that the Raptor would have an Ecoboost and at the time everyone, including 'Ford people' said I was wrong.

Context and time.
A lot of things changed with the Yanks wanting a Ranger, the quick way was update PX3 with an I-4 EB, upgraded frame and rear discs. The inclusion of the US into the T6 program made many things happen, adding the V6 EBs was crucial.

A lot of things we would take as natural, easily approved engine package took a lot of back room justification….

**Fordman1** · 14-05-2022, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Really hope I'm wrong, but on the other hand I was one of the first to mention that the Raptor would have an Ecoboost and at the time everyone, including 'Ford people' said I was wrong.

Lol, those Ford people are whom ?

XR Martin · 14-05-2022, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

Lol, those Ford people are whom ?

I posted this in early December last year.

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...&postcount=459

JPFS1 replied with this.

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...&postcount=473

Then also said this.

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...&postcount=478

BENT_8 · 14-05-2022, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

I posted this in early December last year.

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...&postcount=459

JPFS1 replied with this.

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...&postcount=473

Then also said this.

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...&postcount=478

To be fair 'people' being plural meaning more than one which it wasnt and he was alone in his views as other insiders didnt support it.

Big_Daz · 14-05-2022, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

To be fair 'people' being plural meaning more than one which it wasnt and he was alone in his views as other insiders didnt support it.

Plus the fact this is an anonymous forum where you really dont know (apart from a few exceptions - BossXR8 being one example) who really is a "Ford Person" with inside knowledge and the perspective of that knowledge (ie. someone who works in a dealer would know less than someone who works for Ford Australia).

jpd80 · 14-05-2022, 06:40 PM

Never mind…
There’s something more exciting coming in 2024.

CyberWasp · 14-05-2022, 07:19 PM

Bronco....yay.