So where's the Falcon replacement? - Page 5

deesun · 05-02-2017, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by .:4:.

I can. Me

Me too.

mcsweenyfives · 05-02-2017, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Nothing wrong with Mondeo, (unless you want to tow stuff I guess)

We have one in the family, it's large comfy, gets along nicely

Only problem is when compared to my Typhoon

There are no rattles, no diff clunk, no suspension clunks, no brake shudder.

Typhoon has 70K on the ODO on the third set of brake rotors.

Mondeo has 87K on the ODO, original brakes.

Only cars that have ever suffered from constant brake shudder is me EL, BA, Terry and BF all way under 100K on the ODO.....drives me insane.

Just put my order in on a Mondeo Titanium wagon to replace my Territory Titanium. That means that I only have 3 months to wait till I can be rid of the rear brake shudder above 60km\h that I have put up with for 40000ks. Thanks for the reassurance.

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mcsweenyfives · 05-02-2017, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GXL078

Mondeo is Euro trash. Heck the first ones were about as good as a Camira. But with the added annoying feature of having the blinkers switch where the wipers should be. For me the ultimate incarnation of the Aussie Falcon would have to be a BF II XR6 turbo. Its looks just right and has all the best tech available in the nicer shape. I see it as Skyline GTS disguised as a family car. Best decision Ford ever made to build it. Will always remember first time I saw the first BA turbo on display a Bathurst 2002. In blueprint. It blew me away. BA Blueprint 5 speed manual is sure to be a future classic. Wouldn't touch a 4 speed auto.

FG has a bit of a bloated look to it but still a nice looking car. Ford lost the plot again with the FGX but grafting a poorly matched and cheaper black plastic Mondeo front onto it. It looks ridiculous. Every time I see a Mustang drive by, and there's more of them around than FGX's, i think what a **** to pay that much money for a car that costs $30k in the States.

Prefer to pay 50 grand for the top of the line Mondeo wagon than 50 grand for a mid range Hyundai or kia suv. Perhaps you should go to a Ford dealership abs drive one, you may be surprised.

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**X-AHH** · 05-02-2017, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by .:4:.

Rear suspension may be a factor, but for the weight of the car aren't the very similar to a falcon? For what I tow I'd rather the weight transfer be over the driving wheels. A more tractive effort. I've driven both an old model ecoboost and an old model TDCI. Neither a bad car at all. My boat just has its own opinion on the tow car.

Mondeo are slightly heavier than the ecoboost Falcon by about 40 - 130 Kg depending on the model.

Just like the Falcon, Mondeo have evolved since its was first released as the MA series. It will never be a Falcon equivalent but it's still a great car to own and drive.

**Dave R** · 06-02-2017, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

I love the towing argument...what do people in other countries tow with? They use Mondeos, if you got something heavier, look at the SUV/4WD offerings.

Buuuuut in Australia we love towing with our high powered sedans

If you can avoid it, why would you condemn yourself to a 4WD all year round for the sake of towing the boat each Summer? Many people find themselves in that exact predicament.

For instance my current tow car is an LS3 SS, tows a couple of boats, doubles as an incredibly entertaining daily drive while being super easy to buy/insure/maintain. I can get away with a daily drive/tow car being a single purchase. Not for long. That's the kind of flexibility we're losing with the demise of Falcon/Commodore which cannot be replicated by a Mondeo or Insignia. Just a tough reality for some of us.

XR6_power · 06-02-2017, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Buuuuut in Australia we love towing with our high powered sedans

If you can avoid it, why would you condemn yourself to a 4WD all year round for the sake of towing the boat each Summer? Many people find themselves in that exact predicament.

For instance my current tow car is an LS3 SS, tows a couple of boats, doubles as an incredibly entertaining daily drive while being super easy to buy/insure/maintain. I can get away with a daily drive/tow car being a single purchase. Not for long. That's the kind of flexibility we're losing with the demise of Falcon/Commodore which cannot be replicated by a Mondeo or Insignia. Just a tough reality for some of us.

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Twin cabs, SUVs and front wheel drive sedans are good for certain things, but the Falcon and Commodore do it all.

Junkyard-Dog · 06-02-2017, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by .:4:.

There are 2 schools of thought there. FWD keeps the driven wheels on the dry stuff. Weight transfer is still the disadvantage. Having a roller trailer I can keep the driving wheels above the water line and wash zone so I don't come across problems with traction. If the ramp is a bit slippery on low tide traction control usually takes care of that. Maybe twice I have had to let the rear spin through moss to find concrete again, but it's not hard.

As I said, it's just based on my personal experiences. Due to the angle of the boat ramp the weight is even more balanced towards the rear of the vehicle.

PooDog · 06-02-2017, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

As I said, it's just based on my personal experiences. Due to the angle of the boat ramp the weight is even more balanced towards the rear of the vehicle.

yep how many times have you seen people sitting on the bonnet of FWD vehicles to get traction up a greasy ramp

Vesper Martini · 06-02-2017, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GXL078

We used to tow a double horse float with a bog stock EF Fairmont. Not sure if a Mondeo could handle that.

I don't see many Falcons towing horse floats these days though...

Point being if you had to tow a horse float you wouldn't go out and Buy a Falcon or a Mondeo for that matter

People used to need tractors to pull their boats in/out as their cars weren't up to it. old Fergys all parked up at the ramp

These days you can get an SUV or a 4WD than can tow carry all the family comfortably. not to mention easier to park and use less fuel than the fore mentioned EF.

Where's the Falcon replacement? ill give you a clue. Its bigger