Who works in the mines and what doing

[ELGT4me]

Is this the same group of people who spent a small fortune argueing against a mining tax, then voice their disapproval of a carbon tax, then go on to post record profits? Have a look @ Rio's last profit announcement. I give up an hour of my time in travel each day to go to work, I lose 1/2 day of my first day's R&R in travel. My fly in day can result in a 15- 16 hour day. Yep, nobody bar my bank manager forces me to do it, but a little credit, recognition for what most of us do in inhospitable conditions would be nice. Most other foreign mineworkers cannot believe the hours we work, on the rosters we work, under the harsh conditions we endure.

[NAK302]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

http://www.news.com.au/business/meta...-1226111593498

Well said sir..........

i remember Michelmore from my Gove NT days. a bit of a mover and shaker.
it's possibly his way of introducing foreign work forces while paying less for labour. ask Gina Reinholt and Clive Palmer about who's gong to work in their coal mines near Alpha (central QLD).

anyhoo, if you fellas are keen try

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...31l2-5.2.1l8l0

[PHANTMXR6]

Originally Posted by ELGT4me

I will try & get some pix, next time I'm back on site. O&K were red in colour until the Terex "acquisition" The old ? RH400 will be painted yellow, fitted with a new Cat engines, which I am led to believe look alot like a MTU Engine.

O&K were red and white from the factory, but you could get them in any colour combination if you paid for it.

Our earlier machines are blue and white.

The later Terex diggers came out in a white with some red striping on them and Terex stickers/logos.

There are options with engine choices also. Our later machines come with Cummins KTTA 38 engines, and our older machines were KTA 38's.
Good reliable engines in my opinion.

[ELGT4me]

Originally Posted by PHANTMXR6

O&K were red and white from the factory, but you could get them in any colour combination if you paid for it.

Our earlier machines are blue and white.

The later Terex diggers came out in a white with some red striping on them and Terex stickers/logos.

There are options with engine choices also. Our later machines come with Cummins KTTA 38 engines, and our older machines were KTA 38's.
Good reliable engines in my opinion.

I worked on the O&K,s in the late 90's. They were all red in colour,supposedly a safety colour. As you say, you pay the dollars, any colour was available to you. My first hand experience with the latest Cummins engines (keep throwing turbo's on them until we get the horsepower, & duty cycle you need) has not been very good. .

[ELGT4me]

Originally Posted by GT-0733

i remember Michelmore from my Gove NT days. a bit of a mover and shaker.
it's possibly his way of introducing foreign work forces while paying less for labour. ask Gina Reinholt and Clive Palmer about who's gong to work in their coal mines near Alpha (central QLD).

anyhoo, if you fellas are keen try

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...31l2-5.2.1l8l0

Yeah, ex WMC, they were very good @ maiming & fataly injuring people weren't they.. FMG, yeah well they use Chinese built "donga's" & proudly announced all the new rail cars will be built in China. Nothing like giving back to the country, you so happily assett strip from.

[FTe342]

Getting a start as a dump truck driver seems to be the hardest.

What about the positions for mobile plant operators?

If you were going to pay to do a course/courses on a number of machines, which ones would you do to maximise chances of getting a start. Bulldozer, excavator, front end loader ????????

[ELGT4me]

Originally Posted by FTe342

Getting a start as a dump truck driver seems to be the hardest.

What about the positions for mobile plant operators?

If you were going to pay to do a course/courses on a number of machines, which ones would you do to maximise chances of getting a start. Bulldozer, excavator, front end loader ????????

Bulldozer, no way, fastest way I know to a crook gut & wrecked back. Loader drivers, Shovel & Excavator drivers/operators, even Grader operator. Maybe driller (blast hole) I haven't forgotten about you either.

[Jestr75]

Originally Posted by vibe_xr6

Just wondering what its like etc apart from the money, once my broken wrist heals ill be trying my hardest to get into an opencut as a plantoperator, i have 5 years civil construction plant operating experience, do you think that will be an advantage ? Also, whats the best way to try to get into one

Don't forget about mine site construction projects. They all need earth works done.
A lot of new mines and expansions are expected to start in Central Queensland in the near future. Thats how I got into the mining industry 4 years ago starting as a trade assistant, after nine months of trying, being persistant and paying for my own generics I got a start.

Check out Theiss, John Holland, Bechtel, and the LNG projects on Curtis Island at Gladstone.

[Jestr75]

Originally Posted by wicksy

yeah im with machmahons and stay at that camp, machmahons have their own area way down the back there, best camp i have stayed in, cheap bar is bad though, i am there all the time

I have been a victim of that bar a few times too!

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by ELGT4me

Is this the same group of people who spent a small fortune argueing against a mining tax, then voice their disapproval of a carbon tax, then go on to post record profits? Have a look @ Rio's last profit announcement. I give up an hour of my time in travel each day to go to work, I lose 1/2 day of my first day's R&R in travel. My fly in day can result in a 15- 16 hour day. Yep, nobody bar my bank manager forces me to do it, but a little credit, recognition for what most of us do in inhospitable conditions would be nice. Most other foreign mineworkers cannot believe the hours we work, on the rosters we work, under the harsh conditions we endure.

Im with you, if a family decides the wife is staying home to look after kids until the last is 20, thats their choice, and a big part of what makes Aus, Aus. If she wants to go back to work or not even have kids, again, thats the individuals choice.

If some bloke wants to earn $65k laying bricks or whatever and live close to home, go home every night and see his kids grow up each day, take em to the footy on the weekends, instead of working on a site for a week or two then home for a week, thats fair enough. If he wants to sacrifice money for family, or some family time for income, then thats the choice that makes Aus, Aus.

I think personal choice is one thing the Chinese might struggle to comprehend. Luxury life? Pigs ****, its just life.

[Road Games]

If ya want in and you have no skills give The WorkPac Group
46c Callide Street, BILOELA, QLD 4715
Tel: (07) 4980-4655 | Fax: (07) 4992-5824
Email: Reanna.Wilson@Workpac.com | Web: www.workpac.com

A call and be honest about what you can can't or havn't done ...

I have already posted enough links to get someone half started ?

I have an interview tomorrow for a site and they are looking at me as a fresh starter as i have been out of the field for 15yrs.. Here's hoping .. And after my generic induction is finished i will ask the BIG questions as to how unskilled operators can get a start in the rumoured 100 000 strong workforce we will be needing in Qld in the next 3 years...

Daz...

[Stazza_Brendan]

Lol.. i couldnt beleive the prices at the sodexo bar.. great to grab a few beers for the bus home lol.

Rang up to organise underground generics... going to cost me $620 all up.. my 5 month old surface generics is out of date already.

[Road Games]

Yep $695 for a 3 day course and $120 for the actual ticket once the workbook is signed off, valid for 2 years...

$200 just to renew it i believe?

[vibe_xr6]

Originally Posted by ELGT4me

Bulldozer, no way, fastest way I know to a crook gut & wrecked back. Loader drivers, Shovel & Excavator drivers/operators, even Grader operator. Maybe driller (blast hole) I haven't forgotten about you either.

lol in that case, stay clear of scrapers, my backs wrecked from it, everyone has been so much help, cheers

[Gobes32]

A mate of mine was telling me that engineers from Rio Tinto were at Geelong the other day and were given a tour of the stamping operations, and in particular, the agv (automated guided vehicles ). Seems they want to introduce the technology on their dump trucks. So bye, bye to thousands of jobs........

[Road Games]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

A mate of mine was telling me that engineers from Rio Tinto were at Geelong the other day and were given a tour of the stamping operations, and in particular, the agv (automated guided vehicles ). Seems they want to introduce the technology on their dump trucks. So bye, bye to thousands of jobs........

Nope ... wont happen here.

[Stazza_Brendan]

Wouldnt happen for years if it were to happen. Theres alot of money in the trucks they already own. And seeing the size of some of the mines, would be a massive undertaking to setup the equipment to make sure the trucks run in the correct paths.

[Gobes32]

Sort of upsetting that the one last hope of employment for people in manufacturing was the mines, and now they want to take that away. So Rio Tinto now rape the soil and don't even give aussies jobs doing it.

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by Stazza_Brendan

Wouldnt happen for years if it were to happen. Theres alot of money in the trucks they already own. And seeing the size of some of the mines, would be a massive undertaking to setup the equipment to make sure the trucks run in the correct paths.

They were quoting a radius of 500km. Geelong's agv run off a reflector system to guide them throughout the plant, but Rio's would runn off GPS above ground. Bear in mind that the ones at Geelong run very well and never get lost. Toyota are looking at introducing the technology in their stamping plant also.

[vanman_75]

Seen the prototype ideas , can't wait for me to ask a truck to short dump in front of my blade on a sinking dump ..won't happen , to many parameters and variables . Some good advice in here and a lot misguided , truck is by far the easiest ticket to get a start ..don't bother too much with other skills as you may get a job on that ticket and be sacked on it also through lack of ability .people all want to get straight on as an operator but don't realise the jobs are given to cleaners , and other workers that are on site .
Workpak and other employment agencies can't get people and have noone on their books so I'm guessing all the people who say they want in are not actually serious , I see it with my own family/ friends always asking how to get in and never do what I tell them .
Generic s first , ticket second , accommodation third and ring ring ring ...
And to those who believe we work too much I do even time rosters ad do most so my family / off time is huge ..if I left it would not be the money I would miss but the lifestyle .

[PHANTMXR6]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

Sort of upsetting that the one last hope of employment for people in manufacturing was the mines, and now they want to take that away. So Rio Tinto now rape the soil and don't even give aussies jobs doing it.

Absolute rubbish.

Have you been on the Rio Tinto website lately and looked at the jobs available?

Couldn't agree more vanman.

[Stazza_Brendan]

I agree with you vanman... alot of people just want to show up to a mine site and start work. With someone else doing the work for them.
Hear friends talking with other people alot...
Friend- im working as a fitter in mines
Random person- cool, get me a job
Friend- you need to get generics, medical....
Random person- nah stuff that i just want a job.

Got a call back about a pit job, sounds promising so fingers crossed.

[Day-mow]

im trying to get into the mines working as a dogman. it seems that people only want experience workers.
its a bit hard to get experience when no1 will give it to you

[vanman_75]

At moranbah boom go through quite a few workers , and those with fitting skills well I know allight can't get general mechanic, we have a permanent sign as you drive in to moranbah fitters wanted , local shops always needing workers if you just need a start ,I started doing formwork and concrete with a contractor and for the last 6 years bhp gee even the servos are on 22 plus an hour and rosters,which get ya a grand a week ....so all I can say is look outside ya comfort zone ...Hell grab a job at spotless cleaners your onsite, in the zone missuscleaned for a few months and now works with me driving the gear , and has been for 3 years ..You got no job your not trying

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by PHANTMXR6

Absolute rubbish.

Have you been on the Rio Tinto website lately and looked at the jobs available?

Couldn't agree more vanman.

There used to be 25-30 people on a press line at Fords, now due to robots there are 3-4. It hasn't happened at Rio Tinto yet, but give it time...........

[Franco Cozzo]

Those general mine induction courses, can you do them in any state?

[Jestr75]

Originally Posted by vanman_75

At moranbah boom go through quite a few workers , and those with fitting skills well I know allight can't get general mechanic, we have a permanent sign as you drive in to moranbah fitters wanted , local shops always needing workers if you just need a start ,I started doing formwork and concrete with a contractor and for the last 6 years bhp gee even the servos are on 22 plus an hour and rosters,which get ya a grand a week ....so all I can say is look outside ya comfort zone ...Hell grab a job at spotless cleaners your onsite, in the zone missuscleaned for a few months and now works with me driving the gear , and has been for 3 years ..You got no job your not trying

Spot on vanman_75!!
There is more to a job in the mines than just driving trucks around. There are numerous other contractors on site that will give you a start in the industry. I started in construction as a trade assistant and have done everything from shut down works to washplant maintenance, power lines and now plant operator.

If you want a job bad enough and put in the efforrt you will get one. Just don't expect to start at the top straight away.

[Willmont ghia]

Hey im lookin for some entry level work in the mines in the newcastle, maitland or singleton area. And i was wondering if anyone knows of anythn going? Or can give me sum help

[FTe342]

Read the whole thread, the tips are there. Unless you have experience/tickets you need to pay for your own generics/induction to be even considered for a start. By be aware, generics are state specific, so doing NSW won't cover you for Qld or WA

[Road Games]

Any Diesel fitters local to Ipswich/Brisbane/Goldie ,who dont want to FIFO hit up here>>> http://www.newhopecoal.com.au/home.aspx

Pay starts from $90000 for 6 day roster and speak to Mick Jeffreys..

HTH..Daz.