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18-02-2012, 10:23 AM | #121 | |||
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yep! interest free is the way to go.....a 3.5 kw system will knock the crap out of your bill..quite good prices now as well the best thing about interest free solar is that it will be paid off.....electrickery bills just keep rising you will find it reduces your actual usage as well when your power needs are low the system feeds directly into the house hold reducing the draw from the grid we used to be around 10 - 15 but now we are regularly under 7.....nothing has changed as far as usage goes but the draw from the grid has been negated by the array a lot of the time as for the hot water side I'm not sure!!
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top info and backs up what I'm finding......I'm still waiting for my "first account" gotta love the idea of these buggers owing us money instead of a damned bill in the mail all the time
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18-02-2012, 02:41 PM | #124 | |||
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produced = 370 kwh saved = 211.2 kg CO2 so if i was to add this 370 kwh to the 422kwh imported from the grid = my total energy use of 792 kwh for the 91 days. without the solar system that 792 kwh would have cost me $163.86 of my energy use plus the service fee of $26.19 which everyone has to pay regardless. in my calculations last night i left the service fee in the balance to pay. so the actual cost to me for energy used that i must pay is $3.64 without the solar this would have been $163.86 just another quick calculation and at that rate my system should pay for itself in approx 6.7 years.
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I can't go solar, it's hard enough resisting the temptation to go postal!
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19-02-2012, 12:06 AM | #126 | |||
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19-02-2012, 06:25 PM | #127 | ||
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Anyone know if sungrid panels are any good .
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19-02-2012, 07:06 PM | #128 | ||
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My employer has released this offer. Any thoughts???
In an effort to give employees the opportunity to reduce living expenses, ****** has reached an agreement with solar panel supplier SolarFarmers to provide a discount solar power system. The opportunity is also being made available to all permanent *** employees. The deal comprises of three package options on purchases made through this offer based on a minimum 50 employees participating in the scheme: • 1.5kW starter pack for $1,395 • 3kW value pack for $3,436 • 5kW ultimate power pack for $7,995 These prices include full installation. In addition to the discounted prices above, *** will also be offering a subsidy to employees who take up this offer *** prior to 29th February 2012. The subsidy provided by *** will be dependent upon both the number of employees who take up the offer and the size of the system that is purchased. Details will be communicated to those employees who participate once confirmed. The subsidy will be provided over a three year period. If you are interested, we encourage you to look at the product FAQ's on the following pages. *** makes no performance guarantees about the product or the vendor. Any issues relating to installation or quality of the unit will be a matter between SolarFarmers and the employee. If you want to participate in this offer you MUST complete the registration forms and return to HR before Wednesday 29th February 2012. Forms and additional information are available from HR.
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19-02-2012, 11:16 PM | #130 | ||
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"MNM96" ... that looks like a pretty good offer.
i just did a quick google on "solarfarmers" and "growatt inverters" and they look like they should be ok. if your going to do it , go for the biggest one you can afford.
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19-02-2012, 11:45 PM | #131 | |||
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Q2 - the panels are "Solarfun 190w Monocrystalline " units and i have 11 of them fitted. the inverter is capable of carrying 18 of these panels so i can add another 7 later on when i save up some more $$. Q3 - the system was installed by one of the local sparkys from Bororen who has got the acceditations to be a certified installer and supplier. he mostly works by himself though he had another young fella giving him a hand with my job. they did a very neat install. i have no complaints at all. Q4 - as it stands now the system cost me $ 5437 . because he is only a small operator he dosnt give a "pay it off " other like some of the big companies although the actual price was cheaper then the big companies and the products he used seemed better quality. i told him i had $5500 to spend and that was the best system he could do for that price, but when they installed it they made it ready to just add the extra panels later. .
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20-02-2012, 09:52 AM | #132 | |||
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Sungrid panels are quite good IMO, I used to know the guys who own it through SunPower back when I was living in WA. They're a chinese made panel, although the actual design and testing happens at Murdoch University, they were actually originally built there but moved to China to reduce their manufacturing costs. If I remember they have a ten year warranty and are untouched by human hand, so if they are a good price they will be a superior panel to any mediocre chinese brand.
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20-02-2012, 10:29 AM | #133 | |||
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I'd be grabbing that 5 kilowatt offer before it's off the table......you'll not regret it very good of your employer to do this for you!.......grab it quick!
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20-02-2012, 10:33 AM | #134 | |||
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the output will fall away very quickly after a relatively short period of time, possibly a noticeable difference in generative powers after 10 years to the stage where it may be only half of the quoted output if you can, have a look at "better" quality.....you will not regret it as the old saying goes "long after the price is forgotten, the quality endures"..well something along those lines anyway systems are relatively cheap now so you may find that there is little price difference between "good" panels and cheap panels
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20-02-2012, 10:38 AM | #135 | ||
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dave351.....neat setup.....the buggers wouldn't install my isolation switch next to my inverter so it is underneath, looks a bit untidy to me
I also have two isolation switches as well as one on the roof next to the array and one on the main switchboard.....whereas you appear to only have one I wonder why!!!!! when I get time I will post a shot of my array and switchboard!.. maybe we could all "show a shot of our array's"!!! Hah!
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20-02-2012, 12:05 PM | #136 | |||
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their A panel Sungrid. which has a warrantry of max power of not less than 90% after 12years and 85% after 25 years and power tolerance of -0/+5 and their B panel (which is called suntelligence) which has a warrantry of max power of not less than 90% after 10 years and 80% after 25 years and power tolerance of -3+3 so really i take it i would be better going for the their panel A choice and poppa smurf i thought their panel A was just as good as other stuff out there for power drop etc?
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20-02-2012, 12:40 PM | #138 | |||
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Also what is important when purchasing, is where the company that you are purchasing from is based. Should you have any warranty issues in the future, Sungrid have their head office in Fremantle.
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20-02-2012, 12:50 PM | #139 | ||
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"and poppa smurf i thought their panel A was just as good as other stuff out there for power drop etc?[/QUOTE]"
mine (R.E.C.) are guaranteed for 25 years of a minimum of 80% capacity,......my neighbour (cheap chinese) has already seen a drop off after 3 years there are panels coming onto the market all the time and it is hard to keep up as to what will do what but generally the lower down the price scale you go the worse the drop off will be!
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20-02-2012, 02:32 PM | #140 | |||
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mine (R.E.C.) are guaranteed for 25 years of a minimum of 80% capacity,......my neighbour (cheap chinese) has already seen a drop off after 3 years there are panels coming onto the market all the time and it is hard to keep up as to what will do what but generally the lower down the price scale you go the worse the drop off will be![/QUOTE] Our panels are guaranteed 10 years at 90% and 30 years at 80%. My panels also have serial numbers, might make them more theft proof. In saying that I don't know how easy it would be to remove the serial numbers. |
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20-02-2012, 02:51 PM | #141 | |||
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Our panels are guaranteed 10 years at 90% and 30 years at 80%. My panels also have serial numbers, might make them more theft proof. In saying that I don't know how easy it would be to remove the serial numbers.[/QUOTE] well that should make them pretty good!.......I'm not sure of the precise time frame mine are guaranteed for but suffice to say they will outlast me! mine have serial numbers as well.....I only know this because the transport company put the fork lift tunes through one and we had to find the serial number to replace it! the "theft" proof screws are supposed to be pretty good, the installers didn't like them because they slipped out of the driver bit and had to go perfect first time as they couldn't be backed out for adjustments..... but like every thing else if they are worth money the tea leaves will find a way!
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20-02-2012, 04:10 PM | #142 | ||
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are these prices ok fully installed
1.5kw system sungrid panels (the good ones) with a Macsolar 3kw inverter quote was $4000 2.0kw panels with the same 3kw inverter $5600 3.0kw panels and same inverter $8000
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mine (R.E.C.) are guaranteed for 25 years of a minimum of 80% capacity,......my neighbour (cheap chinese) has already seen a drop off after 3 years there are panels coming onto the market all the time and it is hard to keep up as to what will do what but generally the lower down the price scale you go the worse the drop off will be![/quote] does that mean these sungrid panels have a warrantry of max power of not less than 90% after 12years and 85% after 25 years and power tolerance of -0/+5 are better warranrty than yours? coz my take on this is if my drop below that 85% for 25 years i can get them replace which is better than your 80% for 25 years
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The Chinese inverters tend to require a larger voltage to begin exporting power to the grid, so no matter how good the panels may be, a cheap inverter will reduce their performance. I would ask to upgrade to SMA.
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and power tolerance of -0/+5 are better warranrty than yours? coz my take on this is if my drop below that 85% for 25 years i can get them replace which is better than your 80% for 25 years[/QUOTE] without being at home with access to my records I can't say exactly what my guarantee is, I remember the sales team and the installer stating the 25 year warranty!.....not sure of the percentage versus time factor!
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I'd second this upgrade and ask about the warranty on the panels
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i also get 10 year instal, frame etc as for the mcasolar here is the spec sheet http://solar2000.com.au/wp-content/u...-inverter1.pdf yeah cant find much on them ..will ask about the SMA what size/type would i need for a 3kw system and roughly how much would it be i take it a sunnyboy 3000TL is what i need but what is the reactive power control one ?? do i need this or not ... can i hook up more panels to the sunny boy at a later date if i dont have anymore room on my north facing roof space ??
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what I mean is that some stated warranties, according to a lot of solar website forums, overstate the warranty.....there is a cash difference in some instances when replacement is not forthcoming
if you have the stated warranty in writing then that is fine assuming the company will still be around in the allotted time period, if they are not here then the warranty is not worth two bob number of panels is governed by individual solar panel output..... there are many and varied panel outputs but the ones that I have heard of are 190 watt, 220 watt and 250 watt..there are probably more but I don't know of them look at size, in your case 3 kilowatt......then divide the number of panels by the kilowatt expectancy e.g. 3 kilowatt divided by 220 watt panels = 13.63 panels or 14 panels producing 3.08 kilowatts as for prices I suggest you do your homework in your area.....I could spruke a dozen quotes to you from here but they wouldn't be worth a handful of cocky poop if you don't live here! if you wish to expand the system at a later date then purchase a larger inverter NOW!.....upgrades on a standard system are cheaper than outright purchase later on.....once again do your homework
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anyone delt with combined solar they use blueline panels & pvi inverters any good ?
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cant hurt to try them!.....I don't know about those panels and inverter sorry, but someone will
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