BA GT's now from 16k - Page 5

HULK_I6T · 20-12-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

You get 90% of the car for less than half GT price and about as much speed stock. Spend $10k on it and it'll chomp a same-year GT like it is standing still.

But what BA XR8 is worth $10K? I reckon you'd be lucky to get about $7500 for even a good one now. Yes, there's heaps for sale around the $10k, but note they're for sale - not sold.

So find me a decent BA XR8 for $7500 and Ill buy it (even pay you a spotters fee). First people are claiming you can get a BA GT for $16k and now BA XR8s for $7500 lol..

FIND ME A DECENT ONE FOR THOSE PRICES!!!

(I define decent one as immaculate body / interior, premium sound, leather seats, series 2 for the 6 spd man and under 100,000km)

Nikked · 20-12-2013, 06:07 PM

Plenty of XR8's for under 10k...

Still rather my AU

HULK_I6T · 20-12-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Plenty of XR8's for under 10k...

Still rather my AU

On topic the BA GT is a $23-28k car depending on options if your after a decent one.

This is my minimum spec BA XR8 that I would buy (but would prefer premo sound, leather seats, climate control and 6 spd man)

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d.../?Cr=6&sdmvc=1

but yes they can be had for under $10k if this is your taste...

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d.../?Cr=0&sdmvc=1

But read the fine print... (220,000km!!!)

Nikked · 20-12-2013, 06:28 PM

Found BA's for under 10k with less the 200k on the odo...if you want cloth and 4-speed.

pottery beige · 20-12-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by f6_benito

On topic the BA GT is a $23-28k car depending on options if your after a decent one.

This is my minimum spec BA XR8 that I would buy (but would prefer premo sound, leather seats, climate control and 6 spd man)

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d.../?Cr=6&sdmvc=1

but yes they can be had for under $10k if this is your taste...

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d.../?Cr=0&sdmvc=1

But read the fine print... (220,000km!!!)

King of carpoint and scum tree aids

**DJM83** · 20-12-2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Plenty of XR8's for under 10k...

Still rather my AU

OT
Tell ya what, coming home from work on the highway, seen a Venom red SIII XR8, lowered full factory kit. Honestly these cars still look stunning to date in my eyes. Gave him the thumbs up and he gave it a boot full, sounded awesome and looked great. They still make my neck snap when i see one.

As you were guys.

Yellow_Festiva · 20-12-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by f6_benito

So find me a decent BA XR8 for $7500 and Ill buy it (even pay you a spotters fee). First people are claiming you can get a BA GT for $16k and now BA XR8s for $7500 lol..

FIND ME A DECENT ONE FOR THOSE PRICES!!!

(I define decent one as immaculate body / interior, premium sound, leather seats, series 2 for the 6 spd man and under 100,000km)

The car you define as decent is well above that standard. There are a bunch of BA GTs on carsales.com.au and for what they are seem outstanding value.

You want a car as you describe then be prepared to pay a little more.

pottery beige · 20-12-2013, 07:33 PM

hey hulky wulky.. heaps of cars / the peaches / change hands

word of mouth / mates rates bargains

no dh cash

true story

ebv8 · 20-12-2013, 07:50 PM

i was looking for months for an XR8 6sp before i bought the BA GT
best price i found was $8500 for a 230km 6sp in black on ebay but it sold before i could see it
next was a shockwave (was resprayed) with 6sp and 180km for $10500(sold for $9000) and a yellow 6sp with 180km for $12880 (now $10880) at penrith
and that was scraping the barrel for cheapies with a 6sp
you could get an auto (4sp) for less but its auto so why bother

i got my GT for a little more than an XR8 but in a lot better condition than all the XR8's i looked at

GTPete · 20-12-2013, 08:27 PM

I recently Yella Terra S/C my BFGTP and I couldn't be happier. Best of both worlds in my opinion, a great looking late model GT with the power to match.
The torque is sensational runs modest boost at 7.5 psi and pulls like a train.
Don't under estimate BA/BF GT's they have been around long enough now that a fair share would be modified and performing accordingly.

Grippy · 20-12-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GTPete

Don't under estimate BA/BF GT's they have been around long enough now that a fair share would be modified and performing accordingly.

Buying a well maintained modified example is a great way to save some bucks too. I love my AU's, but i'd be more than happy in a BA GT at their current prices should I be in the market.

ZA-289 · 20-12-2013, 09:45 PM

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...T2004-16017518

Whats wrong with this for 16k????

Yellow_Festiva · 20-12-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZA-289

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...T2004-16017518

Whats wrong with this for 16k????

Nothing... lower than average km and great buying for 16k. There is one a few hundred less but with a heap more km on it.

pottery beige · 20-12-2013, 10:01 PM

wrong colour and i dont like the seats

XR6T0Y · 20-12-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZA-289

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...T2004-16017518

Whats wrong with this for 16k????

The photos are taken from a potato camera. Must be trying to hide something.....right?

**DJM83** · 20-12-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZA-289

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...T2004-16017518

Whats wrong with this for 16k????

Doesnt have a centri blower....

Good buying by the looks

HULK_I6T · 20-12-2013, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZA-289

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...T2004-16017518

Whats wrong with this for 16k????

When buying a car rule 1 is inspect it. How many times when buying a car do you see an attractive ad, think its a goer, go look at it and its a complete pumpkin.

on first look at the ad it dont look too bad, seems lower priced than the average but theres always a catch. Its also missing the climate control / leather and its a 5 spd, somehow lost the genuine wheels too but not too bad for that money. Definately worth a look.

But you just dont know the history of the car. Usually if it looks too good to be true, then its too good to be true.

i know someone who bought a new GT-p BA in 2003. He drove it into a lake. Just water damaged off a boat ramp. More than Half the car submerged, pulled out by a 4wd. He said the electrical gremlins that car had after that incident, he has also bumped it and repaired it a few times too.(letterboxes and galahs). He Sold it.. it might be for sale somewhere around the $16k mark, who knows.

Nikked · 21-12-2013, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

OT
Tell ya what, coming home from work on the highway, seen a Venom red SIII XR8, lowered full factory kit. Honestly these cars still look stunning to date in my eyes. Gave him the thumbs up and he gave it a boot full, sounded awesome and looked great. They still make my neck snap when i see one.

As you were guys.

They like a drink, but the Windsor likes a rev, and its sounds bloody awesome doing it

b2tf · 21-12-2013, 11:26 PM

At the risk of throwing fuel onto the fire I'd like to clarify some of my earlier points.

1 - I agree that the BA GT is the better looking B series. Plain but tough, understated but plenty of presence. I love 'em and would never say no to a Phantom one with no stripes, manual and sunroof. Awesome cars.

2 - BUT, irrespective of whether you own/have owned/thrash/have thrashed one, you cannot deny by any means that the BOSS engines (not just the GT ones) are a significant step forward in technology from what they replaced. This in turn brings with it problems that were found (and still are) i.e. tensioners, oil pump gears, diff bushes etc which when compared to 'simpler' SOHC Windsors cost significantly more to repair or replace. Hence my comment about a $16k GT potentially costing an owner a lot more, especially evident if no service history (or not a very good one) or a careless previous owner. Windsors and Clevos do have their problems yes (every engine does) BUT they do on average cost a lot less to fix. Simply because there's less work.

3 - Having owned both I still maintain that Windsors use a lot less fuel and sound better doing it - personal preference yes but no BOSS i have ever heard has sounded better than a Windsor or Clevo. Anyway neither here nor there and not related to the topic at hand.

4 - BOSS engines are a good platform to work with when modifying yes, but you cannot deny that the maintenance and modifcation costs are more than previous models, again because of various factors but probably the biggest being that when it arrived the BOSS was a 'new' engine whereas the Windsor has been around in various forms for decades. Things have changed now in the last 10 years the BOSS has been around, they're now very well supported in the aftermarket but this wasn't always the case hence dollar for dollar in terms of output the BOSS was not always the best choice for everybody.

But hey as above, if anybody has a Phantom BA GT, manual, sunroof with tensioners and oil pump done and is looking to sell - I'm listening. Until then I'll keep looking at AU XR8's

Grippy · 21-12-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

SOHC Windsors

Windsors aren't Over Head Cam.

b2tf · 21-12-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Grippy

Windsors aren't Over Head Cam.

It's late and I've been drinking......

Grippy · 21-12-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

It's late and I've been drinking......

All good.

GASWAGON · 22-12-2013, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Grippy

Windsors aren't Over Head Cam.

True blue. Windsors are pushrod. As in cam in midddle of block like Gen 3 Chev

290GTP · 22-12-2013, 07:00 AM

My Boss can drop into the 10ltrs per hundred range when on a gentle cruise. My old au 3 xr8 wouldn't come close to that. But I will admit the Windsor sounded awesome doing it.

**DJM83** · 22-12-2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

They like a drink, but the Windsor likes a rev, and its sounds bloody awesome doing it

Yeah I miss mine thats for sure.

pottery beige · 22-12-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

At the risk of throwing fuel onto the fire I'd like to clarify some of my earlier points.

1 - I agree that the BA GT is the better looking B series. Plain but tough, understated but plenty of presence. I love 'em and would never say no to a Phantom one with no stripes, manual and sunroof. Awesome cars.

2 - BUT, irrespective of whether you own/have owned/thrash/have thrashed one, you cannot deny by any means that the BOSS engines (not just the GT ones) are a significant step forward in technology from what they replaced. This in turn brings with it problems that were found (and still are) i.e. tensioners, oil pump gears, diff bushes etc which when compared to 'simpler' SOHC Windsors cost significantly more to repair or replace. Hence my comment about a $16k GT potentially costing an owner a lot more, especially evident if no service history (or not a very good one) or a careless previous owner. Windsors and Clevos do have their problems yes (every engine does) BUT they do on average cost a lot less to fix. Simply because there's less work.

3 - Having owned both I still maintain that Windsors use a lot less fuel and sound better doing it - personal preference yes but no BOSS i have ever heard has sounded better than a Windsor or Clevo. Anyway neither here nor there and not related to the topic at hand.

4 - BOSS engines are a good platform to work with when modifying yes, but you cannot deny that the maintenance and modifcation costs are more than previous models, again because of various factors but probably the biggest being that when it arrived the BOSS was a 'new' engine whereas the Windsor has been around in various forms for decades. Things have changed now in the last 10 years the BOSS has been around, they're now very well supported in the aftermarket but this wasn't always the case hence dollar for dollar in terms of output the BOSS was not always the best choice for everybody.

But hey as above, if anybody has a Phantom BA GT, manual, sunroof with tensioners and oil pump done and is looking to sell - I'm listening. Until then I'll keep looking at AU XR8's

what you cant accept is the little whinger was at its power limits

unless you stuffed Clevo style heads on it

then it would be a BOSS.....

nstg8a · 22-12-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

what you cant accept is the little whinger was at its power limits

unless you stuffed Clevo style heads on it

then it would be a BOSS.....

That's it, the stroker 250 is pretty much it, keeping reliability in mind.
The boss has a much higher ceiling for mods, but having to pay for four cams instead of one. Makes a big difference to the bill...
I'd like a b series gt, they look tough, and realistically they're just a big goofy v8 with a bit of grunt.
Doesn't matter what you buy these days there will always be something on the road that's quicker.

rdmr · 22-12-2013, 08:31 AM

Quite fond of this one for $16,999

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/glene...dan/1032784120

nstg8a · 22-12-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rdmr

Quite fond of this one for $16,999

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/glene...dan/1032784120

Seems like a good price from a dealer, the btr would be a negative for me though. Sunroof almost makes up for it but.

ZA-289 · 22-12-2013, 08:56 AM

Auto GT= fail if u ask me