40th anniversary GT and R-spec option - Page 5

Sprint347 · 03-03-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuey

Hey guys....EASE UP!

Get off Ford's back, go back to bed and start dreaming about 400kw, V10's and supercharged engines

Do you really think that a car with any of those would be financially viable for Ford/FPV...not a chance. The fact that people are willing to have a crack at Ford Oz with their current line up and power outputs is a joke! Grow up

Why would FPV make a significant power increase when we're about 12 months out from a completely new product, have a serious think about that. FPV have done what they could, without losing buyers for Orion, and trying to catch a few more for this year. Oh, by the way, they already have 25 sold prior to launch, so some people seem to like it.

Great looking car, R-Spec is a great idea, and hopefully should sell all 200 of them.

While we're on the theme of Ford Oz not doing enough, check out the XR4, Diesel Focus, Convertible Focus, 5 door Zetec and Ghia Focus, SR Territory, and Rip Curl Ute. NOT BLOODY BAD FOR A COMPANY WHO IS UNDER EXTREME FINANCIAL PRESSURE

Grow up Idiots!

Granted... but considering this is a '40th Anniversary GT' I personally am disappointed.

It's not about making 400kw... but there's alot of effort that couldof been done with suspensions, brakes.. is the interior any different?

They put alot of effort into the 30th Anniversary model... sorry to hurt your feelings but a bunch of stripes is far from inspiring for the 40th anniversary GT.

ClevlndStemer · 03-03-2007, 05:32 PM

Got to say i have been disappointed by Ford/FPV releases in the last 4 years or so (except the F6). The initial BA was good, since then, nothing to even bother looking at. This 40th anniversary GT is a joke. I have hopes that Orion will be at least a decent product range, not that i'd ever be buying another falcon based product.

03-03-2007, 05:55 PM

That looks brilliant! However, having special badges and decals is USELESS without extra power - the whole reason people look at a Skyline GT-R and go wow as compared to a standard Skyline is because we know whats under the hood. Even if they gave it an extra 15kw it would atleast give the badge and car concept meaning and presence.

FPV · 03-03-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

No pics but, seats are GT-P style with all leather, no suede like GT-P and standard GT. In the head reast it has "GT" rather than "FPV".

In the standard GT leather is just under a grand and stripes are 500. That would be about $63700 retail. The special addition was $65200 from memory. So for the additional $1500 over a leather and striped standard GT you get the upgraded suspension and the GT-P seats. Not bad in my books.

The problem for me will be the fleet discount. I can get almost 6k of a standard GT. City Ford dont think they can do fleet on this special edition so if thats the case its not worth it for me, it will be about $7500 over what I can get a standard GT with leather and stripes.

That new blue "Conquer" is stunning by the way. Looks like the XB GT in Apollo Blue. Thats what I will end up with If the deal works. If not it will have to be a lowley XR8, sigh.

Steve

http://www.mcnews.com.au/NewsArchive...ebruary/GT.htm

Are you sure about the GT-P seats. Because looking at those photos McNews provided, the seats definately have the GT seat's headrest. Maybe just a prototype?

JG66ME · 03-03-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV

http://www.mcnews.com.au/NewsArchive...ebruary/GT.htm

Are you sure about the GT-P seats. Because looking at those photos McNews provided, the seats definately have the GT seat's headrest. Maybe just a prototype?

They have the deep sides like the GT-P. The leather was unique, nothing like the GT or GT-P but there wasnt a standard GT-P or GT to compare them to. To be honest, the Ford stand at the show was lacking in cars. No XR8 or 6. No GT except the special edition. It was a waste of 17 notes. Wait, I take that back, there was a lot of eye candy :evilsasmo

Steve

PS, the car does not look good in those mcnews pics I have to admit.

XRQTOR · 03-03-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

They have the deep sides like the GT-P. The leather was unique, nothing like the GT or GT-P but there wasnt a standard GT-P or GT to compare them to. To be honest, the Ford stand at the show was lacking in cars. No XR8 or 6. No GT except the special edition. It was a waste of 17 notes. Wait, I take that back, there was a lot of eye candy :evilsasmo

Steve

They are standard FPV seats.

ED Classic · 03-03-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

No pics but, seats are GT-P style with all leather, no suede like GT-P and standard GT. In the head reast it has "GT" rather than "FPV".

In the standard GT leather is just under a grand and stripes are 500. That would be about $63700 retail. The special addition was $65200 from memory. So for the additional $1500 over a leather and striped standard GT you get the upgraded suspension and the GT-P seats. Not bad in my books.

The problem for me will be the fleet discount. I can get almost 6k of a standard GT. City Ford dont think they can do fleet on this special edition so if thats the case its not worth it for me, it will be about $7500 over what I can get a standard GT with leather and stripes.

That new blue "Conquer" is stunning by the way. Looks like the XB GT in Apollo Blue. Thats what I will end up with If the deal works. If not it will have to be a lowley XR8, sigh.

Steve

You will get new GT's alot cheaper than that soon with as much gear in them. FPV have a bloody long 18months ahead

ED Classic · 03-03-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyJ

That looks brilliant! However, having special badges and decals is USELESS without extra power - the whole reason people look at a Skyline GT-R and go wow as compared to a standard Skyline is because we know whats under the hood. Even if they gave it an extra 15kw it would atleast give the badge and car concept meaning and presence.

Yeah I agree

JG66ME · 03-03-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by XRQTOR

They are standard FPV seats.

I just looked at the brochure and you are quite right. The guy at the show was telling me BS.

Steve

JG66ME · 03-03-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ED Classic

You will get new GT's alot cheaper than that soon with as much gear in them. FPV have a bloody long 18months ahead

Problem is the lease on my car runs out in April so its now or never.

ED Classic · 04-03-2007, 12:43 AM

Go for it...Sorry I didnt mean to disagree with you personally just meant that nows just the start of the discounting and free extras as it will be a long 18 months to sell FPVs at a level that will keep Ford/FPV happy..

XAGSV8 · 04-03-2007, 01:17 PM

Looks nice too me its just another sticker package with some suspension mods. They could also have done a ECU edit and given it 20kw's more which would have cost next to nothing (they could have been refining this in their spare time instead of building ugly blue concept cars). Poor effort if you ask me. I maybe would consider one if they had done this but I will wait a bit longer for the next model and prey they do something with it. To me no power increase means they are not listening to what people really want. As said above even a small increase would show they are attempting something.

Rev28K · 04-03-2007, 08:00 PM

I’m disappointed that they knew they could have had a better handling (i.e. quicker on a track) car and decided not to go that route because of a rough ride. I partly understand their reasoning but maybe if they packaged the suspension like Chev did with the old Corvettes (Z51 (.9 lateral G or something and a real bruising ride) and Z52 packages, etc) then you could have a quick “hero” car and the people that ordered the stiffer springs would know that it wasn’t a comfort option.

While this seams to be a toe in the water exercise it’d still be nice to have the choice.
Handling>power

4vxc · 04-03-2007, 08:52 PM

oh, it should have 300kw, no 400, no 450kw, should have this, should have done that. You are not going to buy one so don't worry about it. I think theres a few Holden fans coming out of the closet here.

XAGSV8 · 04-03-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 4vxc

oh, it should have 300kw, no 400, no 450kw, should have this, should have done that. You are not going to buy one so don't worry about it. I think theres a few Holden fans coming out of the closet here.

What so we have to agree with every decision Ford make or we are Holden fans ? Even you have to agree Ford are not listening to their customers in a lot of different areas. Enjoy your special edition sticker package.

Jayden · 05-03-2007, 01:43 PM

Everyones getting way too upset. I think it just means your passionate ford fans and you have every right to be when something is disappointing. But now your just bagging it too much, its commemorating 40 years of the GT not trying to beat it, infact it is a GT. sure its just a heritage influenced stripe package but nobodys forcing it down your throat. If you winge aboout this you must winge about ALOT of things. sorry but I like it, my expectations arnt way out of proportion to reality and FPV havnt been sitting on their asses like some of you seem to presume, theres new development still happening in the form of the R-spec package and probably FPV orion if its not too soon.

no offence.

Poetic Justice · 05-03-2007, 03:15 PM

I think the car looks great and I'll bet they sell all 200 of them with ease.. and ya know what? That's all they intend to do.

What's this about anniversary GT's being above and beyond what you could get over an XR8? For your information, as you seem like you may not be aware.. the GT is a continuous production vehicle. It's not a one off that hasn't been made for the last 5 years.. and it DOES have a better performance than an XR8.

Limited edition. Sure is. Has different rims, stripe option and a suspension option. It's different, and there will only be 200 of them made.

Though, with all that said and done... I think 10kw wouldn't have gone astray. 300kw from an FPV would have been something at least to boast about, and with the rumour that Orion XR8 will have the 290 motor (doubt the truth in this) then you would assume Orion GT would have at least 310kw basing on the past line up.. thus meaning that 40th anniversary with 300kw wouldn't have been cutting Orion's lunch (not that it would be a problem seeing as though there will be only 200 anyway.)

Brent · 05-03-2007, 05:31 PM

300kw would be good for bragging rights, but that's about it. Anyway, it would probably be hidden right at the top of the rev range given the nature of the BOSS engine, and if you reckon you could pick it in a near 1,900 kilo sedan, you're either a great BS artist or one of the finest car test drivers getting around. The BOSS needs more torque and midrange, and that would mean development $$$ that Ford just won't spend on a car so late in its lifecycle.

Jayden · 05-03-2007, 06:14 PM

maybe FPV could get more involved with aftermarket companies, offering discount packages on new performance products and the like. this could lead to supercharged special editions down the line with the added input.

just throwing that out there, i think it would do alot to help the ford performance community if help and piece of mind was more readily available. everyone would benefit, exept holden fan boys.

LeadFoot81 · 05-03-2007, 11:39 PM

Maybe a Walkinshaw (Performance Add-Ons Type jigger) style aftermarket mods company could work for Ford/FPV, like it does for Holden/HSV. Where they modify exhausts/suspension/etc, and you keep your warranty.

DOC · 05-03-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackout

I think the car looks great and I'll bet they sell all 200 of them with ease.. and ya know what? That's all they intend to do.
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Had a chat today with Simon ( new car sales at stillwell's here in adelaide today ) and they have been allocated 3 of these to thier dealership and 2 have allready been sold with 1 remaining so they won't last that long.

top bloke always does a great deal for me but not for me this time ( if i had the $ yes ) not sure if he had it sold by the end of the day but say you would need to quick on it.

Pm if you need his details wont post them here.

**Fordman1** · 06-03-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackout

I think the car looks great and I'll bet they sell all 200 of them with ease.. and ya know what? That's all they intend to do.

What's this about anniversary GT's being above and beyond what you could get over an XR8?

Yep they will.

I agree with everything you said above too. I think everyone needs to relax...

The GT is a great car period, even though it is now a 4 year old platform.

If you don't like it, don't buy it !

If you want something better in an FPV wait 12 months for Orion.

If you want something better in anything else, there are lots of options buy one of those.

Enough said !!!

boss-290 · 07-03-2007, 11:38 AM

http://www.fpv.com.au/gt40/

5.0failane · 07-03-2007, 12:51 PM

I like it, and I think fpv have done a great job. So it doesnt have 320kw and it may not be the fastest car on the road but I think fpv have achieved what they set out to do, build a car that will stand out and sell 200 to buyers who want a collectable car.

When the xb GT's wher built they were said to be a GT by name only as they werent in the same class as the HO's or the xa that failed to be, but I dont think there are too many xb GT owners out ther who feel let down by their car. I think the same will be said for this model sure its not all that it could be but it will be a great car that will be sought after for years to come. What more could you want from a limited edition GT!

5.0failane · 07-03-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayden

maybe FPV could get more involved with aftermarket companies, offering discount packages on new performance products and the like. this could lead to supercharged special editions down the line with the added input.

just throwing that out there, i think it would do alot to help the ford performance community if help and piece of mind was more readily available. everyone would benefit, exept holden fan boys.

I dont think Ford will ever have a part of this. They are very quick to hand ball warranty issues if your car has the slightest mods. And I dont think there will be too many after market companys willing to spen the millions on R&D that ford would require to allow warranty claims if something went wrong.

JPFS1 · 07-03-2007, 01:00 PM

I'm not feeling to negative towards it either. I think it looks good, appears to have great improvement in track performance also, so what more do people want apart from another 100kws at this stage???

If this car is indeed upto 3 seconds quicker around a track compared to the stock GT, then even a big jump in KW's on it's own won't even make that time up... so for the investment and claimed track improvement, it's a smart move by FPV.

Now where are the interior shots?

jimmy_c · 07-03-2007, 01:03 PM

Does anyone know if the warranty is void if you use the Rspec option on the track

**Fordman1** · 07-03-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy_c

Does anyone know if the warranty is void if you use the Rspec option on the track

I would think so... I don't think Ford honor warranty on any failure from Competitive motor sport.

4Vman · 07-03-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy_c

Does anyone know if the warranty is void if you use the Rspec option on the track

I wouldnt think they'd warrant any form of motorsport related damage, Ford are dynomite on warranty claims from alleged "abuse".
They used to go to the drags and record rego details of GT's used there.

henry 351 · 07-03-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy_c

Does anyone know if the warranty is void if you use the Rspec option on the track

If Porsche won't warranty a car after used for track work, I doubt Ford will....mind you does the FPV "driver education" day count?