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19-09-2021, 11:22 AM | #15031 | ||
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT September 18th 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 1,886 new cases for Australia and 7 deaths so the CMR is 1.365%. 24 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.669%. The UK had 29,438 cases yesterday and 164 deaths for a CMR of 1.826%. 158,889 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,937 deaths sees CMR at 1.614%. Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Oceania passes 200k cases; New Caledonia (558); and Belarus (1,986) ... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Finland drops below.
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19-09-2021, 11:25 AM | #15032 | ||
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NSW/VIC
NSW records 1,085 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9807 (from 0.9943) while the actual line is now well below the predictive trend line and based on the 4th order polynomial, that trend line now has a downward curve. VIC records 507 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0613 (from 1.1136) while the actual line drops further below the predictive trend line.
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19-09-2021, 11:26 AM | #15033 | ||
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Good to see more basic restrictions nominally levelled across Greater Sydney from tomorrow (unlimited outdoors recreation and exercise, gatherings up to five). This has been a while coming.
That fourth order trendline suggests in ten days NSW should be dipping under 600 cases per day. |
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19-09-2021, 12:23 PM | #15034 | ||
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19-09-2021, 12:25 PM | #15035 | |||
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Sure, there might be some sheep that think it is and show up for that, but these things aren't organised in cities not in lock downs, or overseas etc for no reason. It's just a 'unite the right' style fascist protest being organised everywhere, and in syd and melb it's under the pretense of being anti lock down protests so some dumb sheep join in. Someone mentioned there was a small one in perth too (where there's no lockdown and we hardly ever have them - when we do it's for 2 weeks or less). They said there was some perthites claiming to be 'proud boys' LOL E: In Perth it was more about antivaxx as the reason. Always makes my laugh how people are so thick. Imagine if there was no vaxx and the world would continue with massive death tolls for years? Imagine if it was so expensive the average person could't afford it, or supplies so rare you had to win a lottery for it? People would be outraged if supply was so restricted, yet they're complaining about something that's easy to get instead! Last edited by oldel; 19-09-2021 at 12:34 PM. |
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19-09-2021, 12:26 PM | #15036 | ||
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Don't they just badge them as 501,s and send them to NZ
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19-09-2021, 12:53 PM | #15037 | ||
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Funny how nurses were praised as heroes last year..... Now theyre being fired if they dont comply with forced covid jabs. 45 aged care workers in one facility here in mackay qld were either sacked or forced to quit in the last month
Im literally shocked at all the posts here. Your government loves you & thanks u for conforming to their demands. Turn on the radio, you are told by the hosts to get the jab NOW!! Turn on the tv, your told the same thing, along with breaking stories how we must avoid the zombie apocalypse. Everywhere u go ur FORCED to scan a barcode from ur phone which contains a goverment app which we are told we must use. Anyone who questions anything is ridiculed. People at work are being told dont bother showing up if u have ANY symptoms. A cough, sneeze, or dislodged snot are normal human bodily functions ffs, but u will be alienated for it. If the media was gagged to stop talking about covid, and all traces of this campaign were erased, we wouldnt notice anything different or unusual about our lives & everyrhing would be pretty damn boring normal. Last edited by falcon_bandit; 19-09-2021 at 12:58 PM. |
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19-09-2021, 01:02 PM | #15038 | |||
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The government should be looking at the companies who are employing these workers to see if they are providing safe covid working conditions instead of blaming the worker themselves. |
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19-09-2021, 01:06 PM | #15039 | |||
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Collecting Covid related fines during these types of illegal protests is not in any way profitable for the state government or the community. |
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19-09-2021, 01:45 PM | #15042 | |||
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Now after these so called militant unions (as Russelll and others call them) were stripped of their powers, govco turns around in each individual state and start workcover, worksafe (whatever they want to call them) they have imediatelty given themslves power to come onto building sites and close them down and fine them. Funny how sometime that was once done for safety by unions has suddenly turned nicely into a money making proposition by state governments. We often laughed at people who would turn to him and say, oh but you take brides through doing this, which he answered yes come and have a look at the grand mansion I'm living in. Like anything there is good and bad on both sides of a fence and just remember when you go and hold your hand out for your pay slip at the end of the week, a good on your paid holidays leave every year a union paved the way for your rights as a worker many years previous. btw As a self employed contract craftman who doesn't reap the benefits of paid holidays, wet weahter pay, sick leave as a union member but respect the rights of workers to protest against on site conditions.
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19-09-2021, 04:33 PM | #15043 | ||
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Below is a snapshot of what the Victorian state government announced today as to the target dates and roadmap out of our lockdown inline with the national plan.
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19-09-2021, 05:53 PM | #15044 | ||
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It’s sad that many on here automatically equate someone being covid vaccine hesitant with being an anti-vaxxer.
I’m not an anti-vaxxer (I’m actually patiently waiting for my turn in the queue) but I am very much anti coercion. You see people that are fully vaxxed acting like those around those have the bubonic plague or leprosy or something. You’re vaccinated, you’re as safe as you’re going to be. Get it or don’t get it, I don’t care. But don’t tell me I can’t do something that is an ordinary part of day to day life because of someone’s else’s paranoia. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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19-09-2021, 06:13 PM | #15045 | |||
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Quite a few of the extended family members in the medical industry are (or were) hesitant. Most have taken it now, mainly to be able to keep working. Gov here have not done enough to address hesitancy, all they've effectively done is said "trust us".....that ain't going to be enough. In high vaccine take up countries like Singapore, they are running campaigns and also run documentaries to give the public as much information as they can.
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19-09-2021, 07:06 PM | #15046 | |||
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After the 2nd jab I was tired and my arm was sore. From posting so much on social media about my vaccine status.
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19-09-2021, 07:06 PM | #15047 | ||
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https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/sites...nal%20Plan.pdf
Phase A (indicative date 5th October) - Travel 15kms Phase B (indicative date 26th October) - Travel 25kms Phase C (indicative date 5th November) - No limit Likes - They have aligned it to the national plan. Dislike - Still quite a long wait for general retail and indoor entertainment. But looks like they have tailored the dates to suit the Melb Cup Carnival with the outdoor settings.
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19-09-2021, 07:15 PM | #15048 | ||
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The big kicker that I can see a mile away coming, are the high use of the new rapid tests.
They will almost become a daily requirement for a lot of jobs and situations. Guess which group of people will get them for free. The vaccinated. So while you have the right not to be vaccinated, you are going to need deep pockets. A total guess would be approx $40-50 a test. I can also see bills for being treated for covid in hospital under the same circumstances. I am not saying it is right or wrong. Just saying what I see as coming.
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19-09-2021, 07:30 PM | #15050 | ||
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What if the later dates per the “road map” slip? Do they become non-core promises? Or does the government fudge the figures so that people can have their family seasonal “dos” then resume more restricted lives?
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19-09-2021, 08:00 PM | #15051 | |||
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Interesting to note that the Vic roadmap forecast is vastly different to the Covidlive forecast, Vic is A LOT more optimistic. There have already been some rumblings that there is a shortage of Pfizer to QLD and Vic. And don't forget we owe 5m due to be paid in Dec. Hopefully Moderna can more than make up for it.
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19-09-2021, 09:23 PM | #15053 | |||
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Yes there is another group of people that are not anti vaxxers but get lumped in with them and that is people with anxiety issues and can't bring themselves to get the vaccine even though they want to. My wife falls into that category and right now for her its certain death from the vaccine or certain death from covid. Shes doing her best but just feels so pressured she wants to crawl into a ball and never leave the house. And it doesn't help when she reads or hears these self righteous vaccinated idiots basically wanting unvaxed people banned from everything. Ive seen people suggesting unvaxed people shouldn't get medical treatment, like come on how about we let the medical professionals worry about who they should treat and not bill from facebook whos fully vaxxed and lets everybody know. No joke I've also read of a fully vaxxed person printing out his certificate and putting it on his fridge so he could admire it, like he's some sort of hero. There are absolute idiots on both sides of the argument.
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yeah...your rights for sure ..but if you get it, you will potentially be facilitating another mutation that is resistant to current vaccines which others have been immunized for. And...that is the bigger problem for the rest.
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19-09-2021, 09:42 PM | #15055 | |||
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I’m definitely puzzled by the desire to actively make pariahs of people who aren’t vaccinated against coronavirus.
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It’s interesting to observe mask fatigue in Sydney. Probably still half the people walking in my area wear one as designed. Others do the chin mask and pull it up if they’re going to pass you on the footpath. An increasing number carry the mask openly, as if they’ve forgotten to put it on. Quite a few happy to walk unmasked. I tend to walk briskly as a form of exercise so mine stays in the pocket. |
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19-09-2021, 09:43 PM | #15056 | |||
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19-09-2021, 10:38 PM | #15057 | ||
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Got the first one today.
In the past I have fainted, fainted + vomited, and fainted+ vomited and had a huge breakout of hives after different injections. I got home straight after and mowed the lawn, weeded the garden, picked up the dog crap and washed the dishes. I think they gave me the wrong needle. |
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19-09-2021, 10:40 PM | #15058 | |||
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Why can't they put it on a sugar cube?.....that's how we got our polio vaccine in UK as a kid in the 60's, no pain all to gain!... Cheers Billy |
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20-09-2021, 05:25 AM | #15059 | |||
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80%x1 Vic roadmap says 26th September, Covidlive says 29th SeptemberI expect the disparity to shorten but the prospect of people being under significant stricture for more than a month past the date their government gave them - it’s likely to foster more unhappiness. |
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20-09-2021, 06:40 AM | #15060 | |||
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