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Breaking News...WorkSafe charges Victorian government over alleged hotel quarantine breaches
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Although once we reach 80%-90% fully vax, I don't see why we would still need RAT for events industry.
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Raspberries to all the cynics who said overs 60's will never get the Pfizer, so book in your AZ.
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For example, is it the elderly that primarily makes up flu death numbers, or is it a broader spread of the population like COVID appears to be (at least with the Delta variant)? Cheers Jamie |
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Technically you could say ‘Victorian Government charges Victorian Government….’ but that would be silly. |
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Possible Jail terms, but I don't imagine that will ever happen.
In terms of any fines awarded, one might think it's silly, because money will just get transferred from one government account to another... Like charging yourself. ![]() However, it's the taxpayers who really end up paying for the lawyers in what will be a long drawn out court case, etc. Money that could be used elsewhere. |
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So a state government agency is potentially going to fine a state government agency?
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Yes, and they can, particularly WorkSafe
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I can't see the Government would be charged with those offences
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Big signal to businesses regarding duty of care, application of WH&S and covid. They will be made liable. You can be charged even for something like not giving proper instruction on how to wear a mask.
Don't want to mandate vaccination for your staff? Fine, but if unvaccinated staff in your company causes severe ill health or death to others, you could be in trouble? Good legal test case for what is to come.
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So the outcome would be that ABC Engineering (body corporate) gets charged and Bill ABC (natural person) will get the same charge. Normally in this situation the natural person is someone high up in the body corporate
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and you correct with the rest of your info I have been saying this since SPC hit the news over mandatory vaccinations for their staff. Under Section 21 of the Vict OHS Act an employer must provide (where reasonably practicable) and safe and healthy workplace
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Charges of industrial manslaughter only came into place in Victoria on July 1, 2020. The alleged failings of the hotel quarantine program stem from the way it was designed and implemented from March 2020. The department can only face prosecution for the laws that were in place at that time. Also, no "individuals" will be charged in this case. WorkSafe alleges that the Department of Health, rather than any specific individual, breached OHS laws by failing to appoint people with infection prevention and control expertise to be stationed at quarantine hotels. |
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Anyone seen that video by the doctor in the UK talking about the method in which people are being given their vax shot?
Apparently the vaccine is only safe if its given I.M. however, sometimes the needle hits a vein and it goes straight into the blood stream I.V. and to the heart causing serious damage. It was tested on mice and showed the effects. Apparently the correct method is to insert the needle and draw back on the plunger to see if it has hit the blood stream, if it has blood will be drawn back into the syringe, if its in the muscle tissue there is no blood. The Doctor says the first shot doesnt show the problem, its not until the 2nd jab that the damage comes to light. Apparently people who have asked the question prior to being jabbed are being told they refuse to draw back, cant remember the medical term for that, as if they find blood they have to throw the dose away and try again with a new needle. Is there any truth to this or is it just more scaremongering? |
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That's just administering an injection 101 .I was recently shown how to do that by the vet when injecting my dogs medication ?
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BLM and Anti vax protestors are both not great. I don't necessarily agree with them, but they shouldn't be beat by cops for it. Unless they are committing violence, then they should be stopped by police. I have my vax booked in, I'm not supporting the anti vaxers, but they should be able to have their say, even if I think they are wrong. As for the right wing bull crap, Only simpletons call themselves left or right wing. I look at each situation separately. I'm not going to commit to any ideology 100% Last edited by Ben73; 29-09-2021 at 08:11 PM. |
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End of the day it will be just how big will the fines be and nothing more. |
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WorkSafe Recent Prosecutions Click on the Bold name on the left to reveal all the dirty detail You can search by company name or which Court in Victoria
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Weve had our 1st jab. My arm hurt for about 3 days as expected. My wife barely felt the injection and no pain. She joked on the day that it didnt even feel like the nurse did it, like a blood test |
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But instead of admitting to themselves that they're out of their league will always try to pass the buck, they like their easy money, where else could they get so much control without being personally responsible!....and get paid a king's ransom for doing nothing ![]() Cheers BillyH ![]() |
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I’ve really missed this thread the last two days.
![]() Premier Berejiklian is having an each-way bet in the popularity stakes, she is essentially fixed on a date for “Freedom Day” (October 11th) but is keen to get the double vaccination tally up there as well. My money is on us falling well short (several percent shy of her 80% target) on the day - it requires a linear increase in double vaccination tally of about 1.42% per day through the eleventh. Wondering how that likely default will be taken by the zero Covid and other hardline theorists. Also laughing at the comment - paraphrased from Reddit - that “If Covid vaccine powder could be snorted off a stripper’s backside, there’d be a line of hi-vis from Melbourne to Geelong”. Last edited by Citroënbender; 29-09-2021 at 10:55 PM. |
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I have had a monumental amount of injections in my life, I'm talking multiple hundreds, they only pull back the syringe plunger when they inject directly into a vein, but normally the pressure in the vein pushes the blood into the syringe!
I had my Pfizer jab in the gluteus or bum, intra muscular, all they may hit is a blood vessel, you know if they do believe me! Junkies and speed freaks pull back, its only so they know its a vein or the shot is wasted!....... ![]() The nurses know what they are doing, that's what they train so hard for ![]() Cheers BillyI ![]() |
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