|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
15-04-2022, 05:37 PM | #1531 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Oooooo, what did you get?
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
||
15-04-2022, 06:46 PM | #1532 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 359
|
Another Koch Snow foam, Gyeon Ceramic detailer, two Rag Company Gauntlet drying towels, Maxshine Finger Wheel wash mits, 3.8L Brake Buster spray bottle kit and a Rag Company suede fender cloth. Koch Snow foam on special is a no brainer same with the Brake Buster, want to try the Gauntlet towels and I have a soft spot for the Gyeon Ceramic Detailer even though I love Bead Maker.
|
||
This user likes this post: |
15-04-2022, 07:25 PM | #1533 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Quote:
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
This user likes this post: |
15-04-2022, 11:31 PM | #1534 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 345
|
Just ordered:
Shine Mate Black Diamond Grey Foam Light Finishing Pads P21S Polishing Soap CarPro CeriGlass Polish Kit CarPro Glass Polishing Pads Collinite 845 Insulator Wax I figured I'll get the Collinite for my daily driven cars and see how it goes. In time I'll give the Gyeon Q2 wax a go. I think I'll wait with Gyeon till I get the Mustang since that will live a more pampered and garage queen type life. |
||
This user likes this post: |
16-04-2022, 01:58 PM | #1535 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Mid North Coast
Posts: 6,443
|
Just whatever is on special at Supercheap when I decide to wash the car.
__________________
The Daily Driver : '98 EL Falcon, 5 Speed , 3.45 lsd The Week End Bruiser : FPV BF GT 40th Anniversary, 6 Speed Manual, 6/4 Brembo and lots of Herrod goodies Project 1 : '75 XB GS 351 Ute, Toploader, 9" with 3.5's Project 2 : '74 XB GS Big Block Coupe, Toploader, 9" with 4.11's In Storage : '74 XB GS 351 Fairmont Sedan XB Falcon Owners Group Mike's Man Cave |
||
This user likes this post: |
16-04-2022, 05:31 PM | #1536 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Sydney
Posts: 908
|
Quote:
I got a few items that I was running low on from supercheap today saving 30% on rrp = happy camper Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
MY18 Mustang GT MY18 Everest Trend Harley Davidson FXBRS |
|||
2 users like this post: |
16-04-2022, 06:21 PM | #1537 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Car Care Products have up to 15% off with their Easter sale.
https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/e..._list_limit=36 If you are closer to Sydney, then this might be up your alley. Their shipping is notably higher than competitors.
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
||
17-04-2022, 01:43 PM | #1538 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 345
|
So yesterday it was the turn of my wifes car to get detailed. Spent 8 hours just on the exterior. Will do the interior on Monday. My back was killing me by the end of it. Man this is tough work. I dont know how professional guys do it 5 days a week.
DFB, another question? How do you know when to mask before polishing? I did yesterday. But I noticed that there isnt much staining anyway where I missed spots. I used the Scholl 30+ that came with my kit. I'm sure I didnt even need to mask with this stuff. What about sealants and wax's? When to mask and when not? |
||
17-04-2022, 06:34 PM | #1539 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Quote:
The best part of all that hard work is standing back and being proud of the result. From that point on, detailing is basically just that, detailing. For example, spending two hours at a relaxed pace on say my XR8, is pure pleasure as I'm basically maintaining a state of cleanliness or shine. In terms of masking, every car is different. For example, a Mustang needs minimal taping while BA, BF and FG Falcons need quite a bit more. Tape is used to cover up anything you don't want abraded such as headlamps, or are at risk of staining from the polish compound, such as rubber seals, unpainted plastic trim, badges, reflectors and even some shut lines. All products are different, some stain rubber trims, some don't. Same for waxes and sealants. I just stay safe and tape anything that is at risk. If you do end up with product staining, use a pencil eraser or Meguiars M39 to remove it. And lastly, never ever scrimp on masking tape. I see you got some of the CarPro red masking tape, Kamoi tape is another quality option. In both cases, you really only need the two larger sizes, I have never needed anything smaller. CarPro Red - https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...o-masking-tape Kamoi Yellow - https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...detailing-tape I used 3M Scotch in both blue and green for a while, a good option if need it right away compared to waiting for an order to arrive. https://www.bunnings.com.au/scotch-2...-tape_p1660167 https://www.bunnings.com.au/scotchbl...-tape_p1669657 The white roll of tape above is cheap but absolute rubbish. Avoid!
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
18-04-2022, 07:09 PM | #1540 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Today was my first use of Sonax Perfect Finish.
https://detailingshed.com.au/product...polish-1000-ml https://autobuff.com.au/products/son...37746245206200 Used on both paint and the glass today, I can see why this is a very popular product. Followed up with Gyeon Q2 Wax. https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...postcount=1700
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
||
19-04-2022, 01:31 PM | #1541 | ||
T3/Sprint8
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 16,572
|
what a great pic angle and finish DFB.
__________________
Tickfords T3/TS50 '02 Sprint8 manual Sept 24 '16 Daily Macan GTS "Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Abraham Lincoln" |
||
This user likes this post: |
20-04-2022, 05:32 AM | #1542 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2022
Posts: 17
|
Bowdens still best for mine.
It's a personal choice as many are fantastic so can't go too far wrong. ps; I bought my mum their speciality chamois (Big Sucker from memory) - mum's 70 and tells me weekly how much it's fantastic so money well spent |
||
21-04-2022, 10:55 PM | #1543 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Quote:
https://detailingshed.com.au/collect...e-new-500ml-5l https://kochexperts.com/au/shop/moto...nserver-500ml/
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
This user likes this post: |
22-04-2022, 05:01 PM | #1544 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 345
|
Quote:
|
|||
This user likes this post: |
23-04-2022, 12:12 AM | #1545 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 1,675
|
What do people here use for microfibre cloths?
I like to have a good range when I clean a decent car (or even my 30 year old cheap bmw), but because I was bored at work I thought I'd punish the faded and peeling shockwave ba ute again. I got started but then realised someone had pinched all my towels - had to finish the grinding work* with chux LOL. Seriously, what I did like to have on hand is some general purpose 250GSM for the gritty stuff or interior. something closer to 300gsm for prep, 450gsm for polish buffing and 600gsm for spray on sealants. I work 46 hours a week for minimum wage, don't have time to shop around or pay big bucks. I was going to buy the 250gsm "morgan" brand bunnings cheapies (20 for $10), then sabco 280 gsm for $12/8 pack, then while SCA had a meguires sale get their ~440gsm buffing and ~600/gsm detailing. But can't find stock and don't want to chase sllooooowwww interstate post to WA, or international, or amazon or ebay. * touch up with a cardboard mask at a distance with a holts can. Attack where it's not peeling with a rotary buffer and wool pad with septones harsh compound, fix that resulting mess with a DA and megs ultimate, protect the damned thing with a sealant that stops it fading or peeling. Huge job. But the better rags are for my better BMW that I hope never ends up as bad as the BA. Also yes I'm a working poor, but I'm a car guy - and they need money - but best bang for buck and well researched spending is what they have. I guess if none can help then some others get some ideas at least, in that case outside of bunnings, kmart seem to have half decent ones for old cars at least. Last edited by oldel; 23-04-2022 at 12:17 AM. |
||
23-04-2022, 09:47 AM | #1546 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 359
|
Quote:
Costco have Kirkland Signature Microfiber Towel 36 Pieces x 2 Pack for 63 bucks, works out around 88 cents each and they are good quality. |
|||
This user likes this post: |
23-04-2022, 07:11 PM | #1547 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Quote:
General Purpose - Edgeless 245 All Purpose, $1.95 each or 25 for $43.88 ($1.75ea) https://carcareco.com.au/product/the...rofibre-towel/ https://carcareco.com.au/product/the...towel-25-pack/ Prep Towel - Edgeless 300, $2.95 each or 10 for $26.55 ($2.65ea) https://carcareco.com.au/product/the...tailing-towel/ https://carcareco.com.au/product/the...towel-10-pack/ Polishing and Buffing - Creature Edgeless (These are dual sided so can do both jobs), $4.95 each or 5 for $23.50 ($4.70ea) https://carcareco.com.au/product/the...rofiber-towel/ https://carcareco.com.au/product/the...-towel-5-pack/
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
This user likes this post: |
23-04-2022, 09:31 PM | #1548 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 1,675
|
Thanks.
Yeah I know if you buy name brands at auto stores you pay a massive mark up. I only bought from them when on sale. But you get what I'm after, different towels for different jobs. In the past I just bought a bulk pack of whatever and the pile gets culled (or ruined) when using a towel for say wheel cleaning, or black trim restore, or very harsh compound etc. Then I end up down to a few of questionable GSM and may end up having to use that for spray sealant. I want to get a range of grades like you linked, keeping some plush ones for spray sealant wipe off, another grade for buffing off wax or synthetic wax (if I ever use what I have). Then something else for polish, then low grade typical stuff for wheels, interior, black trim restorer etc. Keep them all separate so I don't go swirling the paint after spraying and wiping off a finishing spray sealant. What grades would you suggest for 1) spray sealant (600gsm?), 2) synthetic liquid wax (400+?), 3) fine polish (310?), 4) light compound (such as meguires ultimate) (280?) then just get 250 for the rest (or rags) Last edited by oldel; 23-04-2022 at 09:38 PM. |
||
24-04-2022, 08:31 PM | #1549 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 359
|
Quote:
|
|||
24-04-2022, 08:40 PM | #1550 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Quote:
You can also use Hyper Dressing on tyres, exterior trim, wheel wells and even interior plastics. I use it neat on tyres..........
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
24-04-2022, 09:47 PM | #1551 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In Front of a Monitor
Posts: 1,657
|
Hey, I saw in Harvey Norman today that they now sell the McCulloch MC1385 Steam Cleaner.
Back when I was looking for a machine it was the one that most of the Detailers in the USA seem to recommend on Youtube. It might be worth checking out to anyone who is looking for such a machine. It is what I would have got back then if it had of been available. Seems to be around the $500.00 mark and are not sure if there are specials off that price to be had.
__________________
2004 Mercury Silver Falcon XR6T - 5 Speed 2017 Platinum White Mustang GT - 6 Speed 2022 Blue Thai-Special for Daily Duties - Auto |
||
24-04-2022, 09:53 PM | #1552 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Quote:
https://detailingshed.com.au/product...41feb0af&_ss=r https://www.detailstore.com.au/produ...45bd3cbc&_ss=r
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
This user likes this post: |
26-04-2022, 09:05 PM | #1553 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
There are literally thousands of car detailing products on the market. For a variety of reasons including marketing and social media promotion, some are more popular than others.
On the other side of the coin, there's also a variety of products that fly under the radar. Be that from poor promotion, poor brand image or at the expense of newer products and processes. These are a couple of products that I think deserve more attention. You will note there is a heavy focus on Meguiars, owing to the fact they keep adding new products while continuing to make the older ones. P21S Polishing Soap – https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...polishing-soap This is a product that does its job and does it well. P21S is a combination of a soap and polishing abrasive used on a wet surfaces to clean up and add gloss to chrome wheels, chrome bumpers and exhaust tips. You won’t use this very often, but it is a worthy addition to the cabinet. Meguiars D170 Hyper Dressing – https://www.repco.com.au/en/car-care...032/p/A5576809 D170 is a product that seems so competent yet gets overshadowed by the marketing of other products, both in Megs own range and competitors. This is part of Meguiars Detailer range, but it’s so easy and forgiving to use that anyone can use it and get excellent results. Use for tyres, trim, engine bays, interior plastics and wheel wells. Meguiars M39 Heavy Duty Vinyl Cleaner – https://www.obsessedgarage.com/produ...9&_ss=e&_v=1.0 If you can find some, this is a great product to have on hand. Use M39 when other chemicals won’t do the job. M39 has the ability to deep clean rubber, vinyl and un-painted plastics. Think wax or polish-stained trim or when stripping trim ready for coatings. NV Onyx – https://www.waxit.com.au/products/nv...y&_ss=e&_v=1.0 This would have to be one of, if not THE best tyre dressing available. Now, of course what you prefer in a tyre dressing finish might be different to mine, but Onyx is adaptable. Apply heavily and don’t knock it back, you will have a shinier look. Apply sparingly and wipe it down and you will have a satin to matte sheen. It smells great, spreads smoothly, doesn’t sling and can removed easily with a scrub. Meguiars Quick Interior Detailer – https://www.automegastore.com.au/meg...SABEgL_MPD_BwE https://www.automegastore.com.au/meg...detailer-473ml Compared to more heavily marketed interior products like P&S Express or 303 Protectant, Megs QID is a forgotten gem. While this doesn’t have the cleaning ability of Express or the sheen of 303, as a product for regular ‘cleaning’ or ‘dusting’, QID is another Megs item that just does the job without fanfare. Lemon scented, it cleans light contamination off most interior surfaces, including screens, and leaves behind a small amount of protection. Finish is matte in appearance and available in the 3.8 lt Detailer range or in ready to use 473ml bottles. P&S Paint Gloss – https://detailingshed.com.au/product...bb98f1b7&_ss=r This product tends to get overshadowed by Bead Maker and Dream Maker in the P&S line up. Being an old-fashioned Quick Detailer / Detail Spray, Paint Gloss is a hidden gem in my opinion. I use this as a drying aid and as a spot cleaner to remove bird droppings and it can also be used as a clay lubricant. While these sort of products seem redundant in an era of spray sealants, however I think there is still a need for a Quick Detailer in your arsenal. Poorboys World Range https://www.waxit.com.au/collections/poorboy-s-world These are a range of American products that have been around for decades now. The labels are plain and very dated, and the brand simply does not market their product much, even in the US. And yet these are a range of products that have a lot of appeal to detailers and hobbyists. The Wheel Sealant is very good and smells nice and Bug Squash was a staple of mine for many years. Duragloss Range – https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/duragloss.html Another US brand with minimal footprint in Australia. These are well proven products that a lot of US guys swear by, in particular 253 Tyre & Rubber Dressing, 951 Aquawax and 901 Car Wash.
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
||
27-04-2022, 10:43 PM | #1554 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
I hate doing this as it's so wasteful, but this duo found a new home in the rubbish bin this afternoon.
I have not used either in a very long time, so in effect, they were wasting space in my cabinet. The Ultimate Compound is a slight variation on M105 Ultra Cut Compound sold under Meguiars Mirror Glaze professional line. UC is said to contain a little more lubrication to make it more forgiving for consumer use. Having said that, whenever I did try to use Ultimate Compound, I always found it a battle to work with. So no great loss.
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
||
28-04-2022, 02:17 PM | #1555 | ||
Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,693
|
I'm sure I asked this question a while back but it's for a different purpose this time.
Waterless wash products. Spray on, wipe off or similar. What's a good user friendly product? Its for a Jayco caravan with fibreglass sides. Gloss finish. Where I park it at home I don't have a hose long enough and it's not really convenient. Something good value would be preferred over outright quality as its a lot of area and swirl marks etc won't matter. Thanks in advance.
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO |
||
28-04-2022, 03:57 PM | #1556 | |||
Former BTIKD
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
Posts: 53,197
|
Quote:
Good for getting rid of overnight rain marks -it rains mud around here in summer- but I wouldn't use it on real road grime. You slop it on with the Vileda cloth, the more water the better. Then use the same cloth as a chamois to dry it. The cloth was apparently made in collaboration with Autoglym. https://www.autoglym.com.au/quikrefresh https://www.autoglym.com.au/instadry-with-storage-bag
__________________
Dying at your job is natures way of saying that you're in the wrong line of work.
|
|||
This user likes this post: |
28-04-2022, 04:13 PM | #1557 | |||
Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,693
|
Quote:
Interesting that they use the same cloth to wash and dry. Sounds like a good option and would last longer (the product) than a spray on product. Not sure I agree with your comments about the Territory
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO |
|||
28-04-2022, 06:35 PM | #1558 | |||
Donating Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 12,620
|
Quote:
Water-less washing - just that, no water apart from making up your solution. Spray on, wipe off. Flip and fold your towel often as you do not rinse out between sections. Rinse-less washing - in this case you will be using a bucket filled with water and product. You soak towels in this mix and use them to wipe over the surface, drying with a clean/dry towel. In this method, a used/dirty towel never re-enters the bucket, you just grab another clean on and continue. This method is the safer of the two in terms of scratching. These video show what I mean - Short version - Long version - Something like Bowdens Clean Detail or Meguiars Water-less wash only come in small ready-to-use bottles. Considering how big it is, I think you will want a concentrate bottle of water-less/rinse-less wash. I'm struggling to think of a product like this available through the likes of Repco ect, so forgive me for going with what I know - Optimum No Rinse - https://www.detailstore.com.au/colle...nse-wash-shine McKee's N-914 - https://www.detailstore.com.au/colle...ash-946ml-3-8l Both of those are super concentrated so a bottle will last you a very long time. Of the two, ONR would be better for your situation, although N-914 is more concentrated and slightly cheaper. Roll a dice? Considering you want to use the water-less approach, you can then mix it up is a pump action sprayer, spray the van down and wipe it up with a towel. You did mention not being too concerned about scratching, however I would probably want to get a couple of large dedicated towels that can do this job easily. Nothing fancy though, I think a large waffle weave would be ideal for this, one for each side perhaps? https://www.detailstore.com.au/colle...wel-64-x-100cm
__________________
PX MK II Ranger FG XR6 FG X XR8 Mustang GT T3 TS50 - gone but not forgotten |
|||
This user likes this post: |
28-04-2022, 06:52 PM | #1559 | ||
Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,693
|
Thanks as always. A very detailed response. Not to belittle Gaso's response. Also a very good suggestion considering the 'vehicle' in question.
Firstly I'll put my hand up and admit I wasn't aware of rinse less washing. This sounds like a good compromise. I guess it gives me a use for my forgotten big green sucker as well. Actually a mix of both methods so no doubt be required. Some trips out doesn't get very dirty at all so a quick spray down and wipe off would be fine. Other times the rinse less would work better. With my old van I'd wash it with car wash and then will around with a watering can to rinse it down. It's parked on dirt and would make quite a mess. Thanks again.
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO |
||
This user likes this post: |
28-04-2022, 08:33 PM | #1560 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: In Front of a Monitor
Posts: 1,657
|
There is one other option.
Some of the pressure washers will work out of a bucket if you set them up correctly. This is assuming you have a power source though. (Although there are battery pressure washers too) I have used this method successfully during water shortages. If you are frugal you can wash a car on one large bucket. For you though you will need to use approx 4 - 6 of them i would guess.
__________________
2004 Mercury Silver Falcon XR6T - 5 Speed 2017 Platinum White Mustang GT - 6 Speed 2022 Blue Thai-Special for Daily Duties - Auto |
||