Covid 19 - - Page 549

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 26-10-2021, 01:37 PM

Interesting graph showing the rate of at least one dose across regional areas of 5 states.

https://twitter.com/behrooz_hm/statu...492227/photo/1

You can see why some regions and states are still a little hesitant in opening up, both to their metro counterparts and to other states alike.

Trevor 57 · 26-10-2021, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

Don't think this is a Dan issue. There is no guarantee he'll win the next election, so he could be handing this same power over to the opposition. A couple of weeks ago Matthew Guy was supporting for the powers to be handed from CHO to Health Minister.

The difference, as far as what has been made publicly available so far, is that there will be more scrutiny on gov's decisions with this bill. Whilst the independent body can't veto any decisions, the reasons behind the decisions will at least be made public. And if those reasons are "unacceptable" there will be 6m Victorians marching and protesting, not 2000.

from what I understand there is some part of this that protects the CHO from any potential litigation from the decisions - is that your understanding?

Citroënbender · 26-10-2021, 02:40 PM

SA’s roadmap has just dropped:

https://www.covid-19.sa.gov.au/__dat...261021_V10.pdf

pottery beige · 26-10-2021, 02:40 PM

woo hoo

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-...ions/100568660

*snap

burnz · 26-10-2021, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Dan Andrews taking a grab at power. I'm shocked.

Not really. Everyone knew he'd use the pandemic as a means to gain greater control. He's been doing this sort of thing for a long time now.

All governments state/feds..
not just him; remember the "Australia card" referendum or election..

now your medicare card, tax, centrelink and drivers licence are linked now as in one app when you want to eat out and have a beer.. covid passport.

slowsnake · 26-10-2021, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

I can't think of a religion that isn't pro vaccine.
Catholic - Yes
Anglican - Yes
Muslim - Yes
Pretty much all the Indian ones - Yes

The only exemption you would get is from your doctor. And AFAIK if there is a real reason for it, then you also get a medicare cert and can work/shop.

That's what I said?
But somewhere in the Ethernet a bunch of idiots are trying to sell it as fact I suppose, why don't they just get vaccinated and be done with it.

T3rminator · 26-10-2021, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

from what I understand there is some part of this that protects the CHO from any potential litigation from the decisions - is that your understanding?

Heard Sutton say something to that effect, and that it had been a bit of burden on him. Sounded relieved to be honest. Yikes.

burnz · 26-10-2021, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

I like Candace owens , she says a lot I agree with, but there seems to be more than a few American commentators going over the top with how they describe what’s been happening here.

She says she has family in qld? We’ve had practically no restrictions compared to nsw or vic, not sure how someone could be suffering that much here.

I’ve noticed they’re taking different rules from different times of the pandemic, and from different parts of the country and just mixing them all up in one big exaggerated statement as if the whole of Australia is under all of those rules since March ‘20.

don't worry, it's taken out of context..
it's a shot at merican military couture, lets invade for democracy.. insert every country.

**russellw** · 27-10-2021, 10:27 AM

NSW/VIC

NSW records 304 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.0124 (from 0.9992) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend line which is changed to a 4th order polynomial again.

VIC records 1,534 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9910 (from 0.9819) while the actual line remains behind the predictive trend which has been changed to a 4th order polynomial.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 27-10-2021, 10:43 AM

I see Coles and Woolworths have announced that they are intending to stock Rapid Antigen Testing (RAT) kits from early November. Expected costs are between $10 and $15.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-...mber/100571370

Citroënbender · 27-10-2021, 10:45 AM

How would people here respond if they were visiting someone socially, and asked to submit to such a test before being admitted?

wodahs · 27-10-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

How would people here respond if they were visiting someone socially, and asked to submit to such a test before being admitted?

I myself would be more than happy to do that for them
as long as they supply the test un used un opened played for
and that's how I'd respond

slowsnake · 27-10-2021, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

How would people here respond if they were visiting someone socially, and asked to submit to such a test before being admitted?

Yep, you pay, I stay, say no and I go

MITCHAY · 27-10-2021, 12:24 PM

ACT has past 90% 12+ fully vaccinated now. Still waiting to be allowed to go back to the office

**russellw** · 27-10-2021, 12:33 PM

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT October 26th 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

1,724 new cases for Australia and 5 deaths so the CMR is 1.020%.

73 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.481%.

The UK had 43,453 cases yesterday and 263 deaths for a CMR of 1.579%.

78,508 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,549 deaths sees CMR at 1.634%.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 245M, the last 1M in 3 days;

Barbados (445); and
Bulgaria (6,816)

... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Germany and Luxembourg move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while no countries drop below.

Itsme · 27-10-2021, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

How would people here respond if they were visiting someone socially, and asked to submit to such a test before being admitted?

Politely decline and leave for any one who asks.

27-10-2021, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Itsme

Politely decline and leave for any one who asks.

Sounds like a win-win to me.

tweeked · 27-10-2021, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

How would people here respond if they were visiting someone socially, and asked to submit to such a test before being admitted?

People are funny. I would think "free test!"

If I was negative, I would be happy and stay and party.

If I was positive, I would be thankful and go home and isolate.

27-10-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

How would people here respond if they were visiting someone socially, and asked to submit to such a test before being admitted?

The only people who would take issue with being asked to verify if they're contagious or not... are those who are unwilling to exchange a small portion of their convenience for someone else's life.

But honestly it sounds like a great vetting strategy.

T3rminator · 27-10-2021, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

How would people here respond if they were visiting someone socially, and asked to submit to such a test before being admitted?

A few variables to consider. Is the said someone vulnerable? Or do they live with someone who is vulnerable? And this might sound harsh....but is the said someone worth the hassle....acquitance vs good mate?

From the vids I've seen, the rapid tests take a good 30-45 mins, and requires you to follow strict protocols. Results can also come back inconclusive. Also interested to know how they are going to verify your results? Are they going to look at the "stick"? Whats to stop me reusing the same "stick" over and over again.

Now, if someone can come up with a rapid std test prior to entry into parties, clubs and bars....I'd be all for it.

Itsme · 27-10-2021, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by leesa

Sounds like a win-win to me.

How? I don't know you so no need to be a smart ***.

27-10-2021, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Itsme

How? I don't know you so no need to be a smart ***.

Pop a bex, Itsme. That wasn't me being a smartass.
If a visitor isn't willing to take a covid test to ensure everyone's safety... and feels that the best option is to politely decline and hightail it... then it's a win for both parties.

- Visitor doesn't want to have to prove they're not carrying a contagious and potentially lethal virus... and doesn't have to. They win because they don't get forced to do something they don't want to do.
- Person who is being visited doesn't end up risking the safety of their family and doesn't have to tell visitor that they're not welcome, also a win. They may or may not also re-evaluate the viability of the friendship with someone who has no concern for other people and won't increase other peoples' chances of not getting sick by way of taking a quick non-invasive test, but that'll probably vary.

What would be the issue with anyone taking a test though? Where is the harm? Why decline and leave?

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 27-10-2021, 04:08 PM

Perhaps the other way of looking at the question of usage of the RAT for home entry use is, will you be asking your visitors to undertake the test before allowing them to enter?

The situation is a two way street: for people to take the test, they first have to be asked to take the test.

burnz · 27-10-2021, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by leesa

Pop a bex, Itsme. That wasn't me being a smartass.
If a visitor isn't willing to take a covid test to ensure everyone's safety... and feels that the best option is to politely decline and hightail it... then it's a win for both parties.

- Visitor doesn't want to have to prove they're not carrying a contagious and potentially lethal virus... and doesn't have to. They win because they don't get forced to do something they don't want to do.
- Person who is being visited doesn't end up risking the safety of their family and doesn't have to tell visitor that they're not welcome, also a win. They may or may not also re-evaluate the viability of the friendship with someone who has no concern for other people and won't increase other peoples' chances of not getting sick by way of taking a quick non-invasive test, but that'll probably vary.

What would be the issue with anyone taking a test though? Where is the harm? Why decline and leave?

thought experiment;; say every shop wanted to do a test, how long would it be before a nose bleed occurs, swelling, agitation, rawness then cant breath thew your nose..

27-10-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

thought experiment;; say every shop wanted to do a test, how long would it be before a nose bleed occurs, swelling, agitation, rawness then cant breath thew your nose..

The original scenario was a social visit to a friend but yeah mass-testing upon entry to every shop is probably never going to happen.

Whatever happened to those sniffer dogs who were being trained to smell the virus? I wonder how they got on with that.

**Cav** · 27-10-2021, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

How would people here respond if they were visiting someone socially, and asked to submit to such a test before being admitted?

I'd bet they just don't want to see you.

Requesting a test is betterer than **** off!

**FairmontGS** · 27-10-2021, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cav

I'd bet they just don't want to see you.

Requesting a test is betterer than **** off!

Nice deflection Cavinator... but what about the Fed Libs p!ss poor response to the climate conference in Glasgow? Being on topic there is a direct correlation between the lack of climate concern and the current pandemic.

Covid-19 paused climate emissions – but they're rising again

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...e-rising-again

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The world's sudden launch into lockdown a year ago had an interesting effect on carbon emissions – now they're returning back to normal far quicker than society is.

When's someone going to start a thread to address that eh?

burnz · 27-10-2021, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by leesa

The original scenario was a social visit to a friend but yeah mass-testing upon entry to every shop is probably never going to happen.

Whatever happened to those sniffer dogs who were being trained to smell the virus? I wonder how they got on with that.

i forgot about those beagles, they can even smell cancer..

wodahs · 27-10-2021, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

i forgot about those beagles, they can even smell cancer..

bet they cant smell the spanish inquisition

https://youtu.be/Ba4qmweEWTU

sorry couldnt help my self

**Giant Cranium** · 27-10-2021, 09:23 PM

Let’s have covid night. At 7pm on the 1/12 every person takes the test. Waits for the result and isolate if needed. Repeat in a month. We will then know the real amount with it