Covid 19 -

[russellw]

NSW/VIC
NSW records 176 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9730 (from 0.9979) while the actual line is a bit further below the predictive trend line.





VIC records 1,275 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0089 (from 1.0304) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend which has been changed back to a 3rd order line.

[five 7]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

America, or as my friend deliberately calls it “The Untied States”. I’ve heard of so many of their colleagues and acquaintances (predominantly white, 50+ demographic, range of occupations, not overly sporty) becoming seriously ill or dying from Covid that it casts a sobering light on our comparative situation. And despite that, they will defend to their dying breath, the notions of personal freedom.

Life with out passion would be kinda boring most here have succumbed.

[T3rminator]

How confusing are the bloody mask rules in Victoria?

I've spent the whole weekend walking in and out of shops without a mask as I thought the requirement had been removed. I thought it was a bit strange that there were still ~90% of people wearing masks indoors. Strange creatures of habit I thought. Got a few weird looks, but no one said anything. No comments from staff in any stores either.

Only to find out tonight that indoor retail still has a mask mandate until 15th Dec

[Citroënbender]

You sovereign citizen! It’s actually an interesting experiment you performed there.

[russellw]

NSW/VIC
NSW records 180 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9665 (from 0.9730) while the actual line is a bit further below the predictive trend line which has finally flattened out a bit.



VIC records 1,275 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0014 (from 1.0089) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend but is heading back toward it.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

How confusing are the bloody mask rules in Victoria?

I've spent the whole weekend walking in and out of shops without a mask as I thought the requirement had been removed. I thought it was a bit strange that there were still ~90% of people wearing masks indoors. Strange creatures of habit I thought. Got a few weird looks, but no one said anything. No comments from staff in any stores either.

Only to find out tonight that indoor retail still has a mask mandate until 15th Dec

From what I saw locally at the weekend, you aren't the only one. Mask compliance had been pretty good around here but they were definitely the exception rather than the rule this weekend.

[slowsnake]

Everytime I quote the West Australian newspaper, I do it as I see it and type it verbatim.
I can't give the link, though I wish I could, saves me typing, I do not subscribe to online anything media.

Hundreds of Cops face being stood down over jab deadline.

Quote-:
More than 360 unvaccinated WA Police Officers and staff will have their pay stopped and face losing their jobs if they "refuse" to get the Covid-19 jab by the end of the month.

The fresh warning from Police Commissioner Chris Dawson was attacked by the WA Police Union, which labelled it as a threat to "starve our unvaccinated members into compliance"

"Vaccination is a personal choice", WA Police Union acting President Mick Kelly said...Unquote-:

And I thought it was the law?.....silly me.....

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT November 21st 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

1,466 new cases for Australia and 6 deaths so the CMR is 0.980%.

149 new cases and 1 death for NZ so CMR is 0.391%.

The UK had 39,458 cases yesterday and 61 deaths for a CMR of 1.462%.

43,730 new cases in the USA yesterday and 420 deaths sees CMR at 1.634%.

Other notable points: (weekend reporting)
Asia passes 1.2M deaths - 38.4% of them in India;

No countries
.... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Montenegro and Moldova drop below.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by slowsnake

Everytime I quote the West Australian newspaper, I do it as I see it and type it verbatim.
I can't give the link, though I wish I could, saves me typing, I do not subscribe to online anything media.

Hundreds of Cops face being stood down over jab deadline.

Quote-:
More than 360 unvaccinated WA Police Officers and staff will have their pay stopped and face losing their jobs if they "refuse" to get the Covid-19 jab by the end of the month.

The fresh warning from Police Commissioner Chris Dawson was attacked by the WA Police Union, which labelled it as a threat to "starve our unvaccinated members into compliance"

"Vaccination is a personal choice", WA Police Union acting President Mick Kelly said...Unquote-:

And I thought it was the law?.....silly me.....

it is a choice, slim but still a choice , if you want to work in these fields the you need a jab
don't want a jab then you need to look at other means for an income

I'm currently a transport driver and can earn more money in one particular area using my dg certs , but I choose not to shave and grow a beard so I can't work there as I can't use the face masks in an emergency, so I work in a different area

[russellw]

An interesting review from the USA that compared case and mortality rates between counties with <40% vax rates and those with >80% over a period between April and September this year.

Exec Summary

Compared to a county with 40% of its total population being completely vaccinated, increasing the population vaccination rate to 80% would have reduced COVID-19 cases by 45.4% between April 23rd and September 30th and COVID-19 deaths by 67.0%. Given the at-risk US population, an estimated 5,989,952 COVID-19 cases could have been prevented and 127,596 lives saved had US vaccination rates increased from 40% to 80%.

Discussion

Data from 3,070 counties across 49 states demonstrates that each percentage increase in people being completely vaccinated is associated with a 0.9% decrease in population-wide COVID-19 cases and a 1.9% reduction in COVID-19 mortality over the review period after adjusting for potential confounders.

Limiting the analysis to between July 3rd and September 30th, when Delta was the predominant US variant, gave similar results; each percentage increase in population vaccination rates was associated with a 1.1% decrease in county-wide COVID-19 cases and a 2.6% reduction in COVID-19 deaths. Among the counties with vaccination rates >40%, an additional percentage increase in vaccination rate was associated with a 1.5% reduction in population COVID-19 cases and a 2.7% decrease in COVID-19 mortality.

[PG2]

Originally Posted by slowsnake

Everytime I quote the West Australian newspaper, I do it as I see it and type it verbatim.

[Something about cops and vaccinations...]

Slowsnake

If you are going to quote anything verbatim link it back to the article. Obviously you can't do this if you are quoting from a physical newspaper.

Then click on this icon and this should appear;

[QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Then paste or type the text of the article in the area that I have highlighted red;

[QUOTE]paste or type your text here[/QUOTE]


Your post should come out something like this...

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https://thewest.com.au/

Blah, blah, blah

COVID

Blah, blah, blah

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[FTE217]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

How confusing are the bloody mask rules in Victoria?

I've spent the whole weekend walking in and out of shops without a mask as I thought the requirement had been removed. I thought it was a bit strange that there were still ~90% of people wearing masks indoors. Strange creatures of habit I thought. Got a few weird looks, but no one said anything. No comments from staff in any stores either.

Only to find out tonight that indoor retail still has a mask mandate until 15th Dec

I think in the big picture it comes down to yourself barring seeing the Dec 15 date.

I've lost track for here in Syd/NSW now but many many I see still wearing masks and for me, going into any shop and more so a shopping mall I'm still wearing one gladly but thats me.
Here's from NSW website :
When face masks are required

All people in NSW over the age of 12 are required to wear a face mask:

in an indoor area of premises other than a place of residence

in an indoor area on common property for residential premises

at a public transport waiting area

in a vehicle or vessel being used to provide a public transport service

working at a hospitality venue and dealing directly with members of the public

on a domestic commercial aircraft, including when the aircraft is flying above NSW.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay...ace-mask-rules

[CoupeKing]

Pay close attention to him..

[Jack91]

Originally Posted by FTE217

on a domestic commercial aircraft, including when the aircraft is flying above NSW.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay...ace-mask-rules

So if you boarded in a non mask state and flew to one, maybe Qld to tas, the pilot comes over the microphone an hour in and says you have to wear a mask in NSW airspace?
Seems pretty weird is all, hard to imagine.

[Citroënbender]

Makes about so much sense as charging people for the Covid test if their flight passes over Queensland.

Got a minor win on the Covid front today, was swabbed on admission to hospital but result not yet returned - so I’ve got a massive private room as a public health patient, to “isolate” me overnight.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by FTE217

........
on a domestic commercial aircraft, including when the aircraft is flying above NSW.

missed that one, and if I read it I would have taken it as a joke.... did that requirement come from a Dr or a Minister I wonder?

NSW government ‘ignored health advice’ from Kerry Chant, new emails show

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...b7e347486a1581

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Pay close attention to him..

Looks like fear.....fear that disinformation could cause a catastrophic outbreak wiping out his vulnerable communities.

BTW I don't agree that if you are against the mandate, then you are an antivaxer. But if you are coercing others not to take it, then that's a different ball game. IMHO.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Looks like fear.....fear that disinformation could cause a catastrophic outbreak wiping out his vulnerable communities.

BTW I don't agree that if you are against the mandate, then you are an antivaxer. But if you are coercing others not to take it, then that's a different ball game. IMHO.

Pay closer attention to him.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Jack91

So if you boarded in a non mask state and flew to one, maybe Qld to tas, the pilot comes over the microphone an hour in and says you have to wear a mask in NSW airspace?
Seems pretty weird is all, hard to imagine.

It's a requirement by Federal, State and Territory governments to wear masks inside all airports and inflight, every airport and every airline that operates in Australia have had this for near as long as covid has been here, just about all the states have their own little 'when in our airspace wear a mask' instruction attached to the conditions of entry by air, am guessing it's just reenforcing the ruling....

At the moment there are no non mask states when it comes to Airports and Flying, you wear a mask when you enter the Airport terminal and keep it on (except for eating/drinking) until you get off at the other end, whichever state that may be, of course there are exemptions but I've seen very few of these and the coppers are hot on it, If you don't have a mask on you can guarantee you will be fronted....

More examples

West Aus https://www.wa.gov.au/government/pub...sked-questions

Qld https://www.health.qld.gov.au/system...andatory-masks

NT https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/covi.../face-masks/nt

Tas https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/k...ks-at-airports

Vic https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/f...wear-face-mask

SA https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/w...tsandairplanes

And

Qantas https://www.qantas.com/au/en/coronav...ing.html#masks

Virgin https://travel.virginaustralia.com/a...alth-wellbeing

Jetstar same as Qantas https://travel.virginaustralia.com/a...alth-wellbeing

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Pay closer attention to him.

I got it. He's not wearing a tie.....................

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

I got it. He's not wearing a tie.....................

and BIG ears.

[Charliewool]

This might upset those governments mandating??

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...8743b585fd?amp

(I’d suggest we’ll know once climate change is back to front page instead of Covid?)

[russellw]

NSW/VIC
NSW records 173 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9734 (from 0.9665) while the actual line is a bit further below the predictive trend line.



VIC records 827 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9763 (from 1.0014) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend but is heading back toward it.



Week 19 in Victoria ended today with 95,062 cases to date compared to 20,024 at the same point of the 2020 outbreak (which was almost over at this point) and 70,039 for the NSW 2021 outbreak. Weekly case numbers see Victoria with 3x more cases than NSW last week and overall case numbers for Victoria are down by 753 on last week. Note that we are comparing historical data for NSW with current data for Victoria as NSW is about 3.5 weeks ahead.

[slowsnake]

Just read that Charlie and it really is something to look into, I suppose all Virii have a fault in their genetic make-up, makes you wonder if it is man made or something due to other natural causes, demise by natural attrition!

[Citroënbender]

A sobering number of deaths in Victoria, highest in nearly a month.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT November 22nd 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

1,215 new cases for Australia and 4 deaths so the CMR is 0.976%.

204 new cases and 1 death for NZ so CMR is 0.393%.

The UK had 44,434 cases yesterday and 45 deaths for a CMR of 1.456%.

85,514 new cases in the USA yesterday and 652 deaths sees CMR at 1.632%.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 258M, the last 1M in 2 days;

No countries
.... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Estonia and Armenia drop below.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

A sobering number of deaths in Victoria, highest in nearly a month.

Yeah, just as we open our border here in SA and thousands of them pour over it.
Just came back down SE Freeway from Murray Bridge and every 2nd car has Vic plates, you can almost taste the virus spread.
Here we go, Marshall can FRO!

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Looks like fear.....fear that disinformation could cause a catastrophic outbreak wiping out his vulnerable communities.

BTW I don't agree that if you are against the mandate, then you are an antivaxer. But if you are coercing others not to take it, then that's a different ball game. IMHO.

If you are against the mandate for vaccination then you are anti-vaxxer

anti-vax/anti-vaxxer
"opposed to vaccination"
for whatever reason.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Itsme

If you are against the mandate for vaccination then you are anti-vaxxer

or stooopid is stoopider

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Itsme

If you are against the mandate for vaccination then you are anti-vaxxer

Reads like a simpleton's definition.