Covid 19 -

[Ben73]

Buy your RAT online there are many available. $12 each delivered to my door.
Easy done.

[Pooka]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Buy your RAT online there are many available. $12 each delivered to my door.
Easy done.

Another one...

[Pooka]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Interesting. This would indicate there isn't a shortage of stock, but rather more of a problem with the way it was communicated, which made it difficult to get the kits to the shelves to meet demand in the short term.

Could it be because Suretest and Roche Diagnostics Australia are not on the Federal governments "approved" list of RAT kit suppliers?

To be on the "approved" list, you have to be mates with Hunt and/or Morrison I'm guessing?

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Pooka

Another one...

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What does that even mean

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Pooka

Could it be because Suretest and Roche Diagnostics Australia are not on the Federal governments "approved" list of RAT kit suppliers?



To be on the "approved" list, you have to be mates with Hunt and/or Morrison I'm guessing?

These guys are merely distributors. The kits they supply are TGA approved.

However, I do think the Feds comments that they don't want to supply free RATs because it will undercut the retailers is rather crude. Adds more fuel to the conspiracies.

Edit: correction. You are right pooka. They have a TGA number which means it's approved for sale, but its not on the tga list of approved kits to use...... Clear as mud.

[.:4:.]

So this morning i asked my mate who is covid positive if he wants anything from down the shop. All he asked was if i could swing throught the chemist and get him a rat. No drama there. In the chemist there was a long line and a staff member made an announcement that they were out of rat tests. So like everone else, i left. There is atleast in my area more demand then supply.

[MITCHAY]

I just don't understand not making RAT freely available. Let's simplify a bit and say a PCR costs $150 and a RAT costs $15.

There will still need some follow up PCRs but the math seems obvious. Not to mention you can't spend money or work lining up for hours which is an economic loss.

Unless they were thinking that people will pay out of their pocket because it is more convienent but seems to me there are a lot of ****ed off people and a backflip on this is almost certain

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Ben73

What does that even mean

Google is not his friend...

[T3rminator]

No shortage of RATs at Melbourne airport. Friend's parents just arrived from overseas, they were given 5........each!

Funny that the parents use a new model Huawei phone, which is banned from google play store, and which is where they need to download the government app to submit their results

[prydey]

My sister came home from overseas 3 weeks ago. Double vaxxed etc. Had to have a PCR test on day 5 and day 12. Both negative. Day 14 she gets a fever and the sniffles. We had 4 Rapid kits in preparation for returning home from Brisbane but the rules were constantly changing and in the end we didn't need them. We gave one packet (2 kits) to sister to use while waiting for a 3rd PCR appointment.

She used both and both tested negative on both. Long story short, her 3rd PCR returned a positive result for covid.

Fat lot of good rapid tests are.

My sister felt fine the next day too. Still stuck in isolation for another 7 days though but time to ignore case numbers and move on. The health system will cope as long as people do the right thing and protect themselves and practice good hygiene.

We just spent 3 weeks in bris. Came home today. Ignored the news outlets for 3 weeks and had a great holiday. Wearing masks and practising good hygiene and social distancing was a small price to pay.

[tweeked]

So my Father in Law finally got flights out of central China after being stuck for the last year, he is boarding now and lands in the morning in Melbourne. He is vaccinated so we look up the requirements for home quarantine, it looks really easy (too easy??) From the VIC GOV site

Quick guide
If fully vaccinated, or if aged under 12 and 2 months:

Immediately quarantine at home upon arrival in Victoria.
Get a PCR test or a rapid antigen test within 24 hours of arriving and continue to quarantine until you receive a negative result.
Get a PCR test or a rapid antigen test between day 5 and 7 after arriving. You don’t have to quarantine while awaiting the result of this test.
There are restrictions on entering sensitive settings (including education)
Note: The above applies to people aged under 12 and 2 months if they are travelling solo or travelling with a parent/guardian who is either fully vaccinated or medically exempt.

We already have some RATs, does this actually mean he can do a RAT when he gets home and is free to go immediately if it is negative?

Or does he have to keep quarantining to day 5-7 gets a negative (it doesn't state this clearly if he does)???

Getting out the same day with a RAT seems a bit dumb.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Just what we bloody need for the new year:



https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...68cde9292a94d6

We have got that in Perth already!
It's the IUFB variant!...Idiotic Unvaxxed French Backpacker, pretty good of the French to pass it onto us, go and fight 2 World Wars for them, and in return they decimate the South Pacific with atom bombs, blow up a ship in New Zealand, then they have the nerve to send us their own Covid-19 variant!

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by tweeked

So my Father in Law finally got flights out of central China after being stuck for the last year, he is boarding now and lands in the morning in Melbourne. He is vaccinated so we look up the requirements for home quarantine, it looks really easy (too easy??) From the VIC GOV site

Quick guide
If fully vaccinated, or if aged under 12 and 2 months:

Immediately quarantine at home upon arrival in Victoria.
Get a PCR test or a rapid antigen test within 24 hours of arriving and continue to quarantine until you receive a negative result.
Get a PCR test or a rapid antigen test between day 5 and 7 after arriving. You don’t have to quarantine while awaiting the result of this test.
There are restrictions on entering sensitive settings (including education)
Note: The above applies to people aged under 12 and 2 months if they are travelling solo or travelling with a parent/guardian who is either fully vaccinated or medically exempt.

We already have some RATs, does this actually mean he can do a RAT when he gets home and is free to go immediately if it is negative?

Or does he have to keep quarantining to day 5-7 gets a negative (it doesn't state this clearly if he does)???

Getting out the same day with a RAT seems a bit dumb.

Friend's parents just went through this process. Between arrival and first RAT, they are supposed to try isolate from everyone, so no sharing bathroom, kitchen etc. After the first RAT, if its negative, you can venture out, but common sense says to stay away from high risk settings with vulnerable people. Having said that, friend's parents are going to isolate until their day 5 test, because they want to be 10000% sure, as they are here to visit / take care of their grand kid who is still a toddler.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by slowsnake

We have got that in Perth already!
It's the IUFB variant!...Idiotic Unvaxxed French Backpacker, pretty good of the French to pass it onto us, go and fight 2 World Wars for them, and in return they decimate the South Pacific with atom bombs, blow up a ship in New Zealand, then they have the nerve to send us their own Covid-19 variant!

we have ??
you have a link to this crap , as last i knew he caught and brought it from queensland

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-...ites/100722696

a COVID-positive 25-year-old French backpacker has been out and about in Perth for almost two weeks.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said the man arrived from Queensland on the night of Sunday, December 12, just before a harder border with that state was introduced.

At this stage, Mr McGowan said the case was likely to be the Delta strain rather than Omicron.

and due to the date he arrived in australia prier to the new variant makes it some what harder for him to catch in queensland than the delta which wasnt spreading there at that time ??

yes we can do better even tho over the whole pandemic we have registered less than half a daily GSS out break and have got on with work and our lives even if we have had to wear masks for a few weeks here and there , atleast we arnt like other in other states hiding under doona's and b!tching!ng bout it

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/no-...tate-c-5183999

Western Australia recorded 14 new cases of Covid-19 overnight, taking the state’s total active cases to 53.

All of the new cases are in quarantine and are not related to the recent backpacker cluster or to the hotel quarantine security guard who tested positive on Sunday.

Interstate travel accounted for 11 of the cases, with six being recent travellers from Queensland and three from Tasmania.

Three of the cases were international arrivals, and two were interstate truck drivers who were tested at the border.

[Pooka]

I went looking for information on the rapid test kits currently available in Australia and came across the following that I thought I'd share here.

As of 01/01/2022 there are 160 RAT' kits approved by the Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods (ARTG) which can be lawfully supplied in Australia.

Out of the 160 kits, only 18 have been approved for use in Australia by the TGA.

As of 21/12/2021, from those 18 TGA approved kits, only 6 have provided the TGA with evidence of performance for which Covid-19 variants they can detect.


But here's the conundrum. NONE of the 18 approved kits have so far been able to provide evidence to the TGA that they detect the Omicron variant!


As these kits are the talk of the town at the moment, I thought I'd compile a list of the 18 TGA approved RAT kits by name, test type (nasal or saliva), their clinical sensitivity rating (very high, high or acceptable) and the Covid-19 variants they can detect (if evidence provided) below.

To explain the clinical "sensitivity" rating, the TGA based its judgment of the performance of each kit on studies done by the manufacturer that show the positive percent agreement (PPA) – the percentage of individuals that produced a positive test result using a rapid antigen test, in comparison with a positive result by a PCR test.

The TGA sets the minimum clinical sensitivity a test kit must achieve before it is approved at 80%, which it labels as "acceptable sensitivity". A kit with 90% PPA is labelled "high sensitivity" and a kit that records clinical sensitivity greater than 95% is considered to have "very high sensitivity".


The 18 TGA approved RAT kits are listed below:

Name: All Test COVID-19 Antigen Rapid Test
Type: Saliva
Sensitivity: High
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: All Test SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Test
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: Very high
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: CareStart COVID-19 Antigen Home Test
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: Acceptable
Variants detected: Alpha, Beta, Delta, Kappa, Epsilon and Lambda variants.

Name: Ecotest COVID-19 Antigen Saliva Test kit
Type: Saliva
Sensitivity: Acceptable
Variants detected: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and Kappa variants.

Name: Hough COVID-19 Home Test
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: High
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: InnoScreen COVID-19 Antigen Rapid Test Device
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: Acceptable
Variants detected: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Kappa and Epsilon variants.

Name: JusChek SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Test
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: High
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: JusChek COVID-19 Antigen Rapid Test
Type: Saliva
Sensitivity: High
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: LYHER Novel Coronavirus (Covid-19) Antigen Test Kit
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: Very high
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: My Covid Test Antigen Rapid Test
Type: Saliva
Sensitivity: High
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: OnSite COVID-19 Ag Self Test
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: Very high
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: Orawell COVID-19 Ag Rapid saliva test device
Type: Saliva
Sensitivity: High
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: Panbio COVID-19 Antigen Self-Test
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: Very high
Variants detected: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Kappa, Zeta, Theta and Eta variants.

Name: Rapid SARS-COV-2 Antigen Test Card Self-test
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: Very high
Variants detected: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Eta, Iota, Kappa, Theta and Eta variants.

Name: RightSign COVID-19 Antigen Rapid Test Cassette
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: High
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Self Test Nasal
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: Acceptable
Variants detected: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Kappa, Epsilon, Iota and Zeta variants.

Name: TESTSEALABS COVID-19 Antigen Test Cassette
Type: Nasal
Sensitivity: High
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021

Name: V-Chek COVID-19 Antigen Saliva Test
Type: Saliva
Sensitivity: Very high
Variants detected: No evidence provided to TGA as of 21/12/2021


In summery, 160 kits have been approved for supply in Australia. Only 18 out of those 160 have been TGA approved. And only 6 out of those 18 have provided evidence of performance data to the TGA as to which variants they can detect.

Having just 18 kits that are TGA approved in Australia is way to low. There needs to be much more TGA approved kits available to the public. What's taking so long? A 160 approved for sale, but only 18 are TGA approved? Unbelievable.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by wodahs

and have got on with work and our lives

actually, to be fair, keeping the borders closed isn't getting on with your lives.

If you disregard the news sensationalists, and just get out and about like normal, you will see that the eastern states are actually getting on with their lives.

Vaccinations in Vic and Nsw are in the mid to high 90% range. Out of a combined population of approx 15million people there are about 1500 -2000 in hospital and only a small percentage of those in ICU.

The case numbers look impressive for the drama lovers but they aren't stopping people getting on with their lives.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by prydey

actually, to be fair, keeping the borders closed isn't getting on with your lives.

If you disregard the news sensationalists, and just get out and about like normal, you will see that the eastern states are actually getting on with their lives.

Vaccinations in Vic and Nsw are in the mid to high 90% range. Out of a combined population of approx 15million people there are about 1500 -2000 in hospital and only a small percentage of those in ICU.

The case numbers look impressive for the drama lovers but they aren't stopping people getting on with their lives.

actually, to be fair, keeping the borders closed we have been getting on with your lives.
not allowing it to spread like you's have and been able to travel a quarter of australia (WA)
and work and play and have bbqs and pubs and so on with out the other restrictions youve also had but complained about whilst telling us that we apparently want the boarder open for you's
which as shown spreads it faster and whilst we didnt get the priority on stuff (nothing unusual there being we are wa) you still complain we have lagged in initial vaccine rates

with where we are id still rather be here than there
go figure


edit:~ oh and if our boarders are really close fully as you say how did we still manage to keep getting people for the east bringing it in tho wa ?? in all fairness

[prydey]

Originally Posted by wodahs

actually, to be fair, keeping the borders closed we have been getting on with your lives.
not allowing it to spread like you's have and been able to travel a quarter of australia (WA)
and work and play and have bbqs and pubs and so on with out the other restrictions youve also had but complained about whilst telling us that we apparently want the boarder open for you's
which as shown spreads it faster and whilst we didnt get the priority on stuff (nothing unusual there being we are wa) you still complain we have lagged in initial vaccine rates

with where we are id still rather be here than there
go figure

I don't live in the eastern states, and my personal life hasn't been affected at all during the entire pandemic, but that doesn't mean I should expect everyone to live my lifestyle.

what is the point of getting vaccinated if you are still going to try to live with an elimination strategy? It just means in 2 years WA haven't really gone anywhere.

Like I said, ignore the media hype. Life is going on in the eastern states.

I just got back from 3 weeks holiday in bris. Did aussie zoo twice with the family, went out to our favourite Thai restaurant 3 times, spent way too much at the shops and had a good relax at my folks semi rural property.

Back home now and back to work tomorrow. Life goes on. Everywhere.

[FairmontGS]

Had a 3 week driving holiday through outback NSW and regional Victoria in December. No restrictions, very relaxing. Unfortunately, as with 2020, the west Australia portion of the family was missing from Christmas celebrations.

Mums sister has end stage dementia and they haven’t seen each other for over two years. What’s the point?

Morgan is cutting off the state from reality until what?

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't live in the eastern states, and my personal life hasn't been affected at all during the entire pandemic, but that doesn't mean I should expect everyone to live my lifestyle.

and yet you come out with

actually, to be fair, keeping the borders closed isn't getting on with your lives

now what would that comment be in regards to if not what you would expect ??

Originally Posted by prydey

what is the point of getting vaccinated if you are still going to try to live with an elimination strategy? It just means in 2 years WA haven't really gone anywhere.

we wernt a state able to get vaxxed early due to other states getting prioritys on vaxinne doses at the time , and we still arnt at these rates just yet , but we are getting there

Originally Posted by prydey

Like I said, ignore the media hype. Life is going on in the eastern states.

hype like the 10s of thousand cases a day ??
or the hype that you were unable to travel and live dayily lives for the first half if not more of the pandemic ?? whilst we wernt

Originally Posted by prydey

I just got back from 3 weeks holiday in bris. Did aussie zoo twice with the family, went out to our favourite Thai restaurant 3 times, spent way too much at the shops and had a good relax at my folks semi rural property.

Back home now and back to work tomorrow. Life goes on. Everywhere.

yes life does go on
thru out tha pandemic ive been able to go see family, go to my favorite asian restaurant and any other i wanted too , i have also spent way too much at the shops and had been out most long weekends at a mates farm with other mates and their families
and yet we have manages to keep it out of here till we reach the position of vaccinated rates you have managed to achieve
all whilst having a total number of cases thru out the whole pandemic less than half a daily achievement of nsw or s.a.

and yet as said at the end of my last post if our boarders are really fully closed as you say how did we still manage to keep getting people for the east bringing it in tho wa

so where did we (wa) go so wrong to have been able to do all this not just now but thru out the pandemic
and ive not skipped a days work thru it all either , tho maybe lost a few ot hrs a week here and there but never had any gov payments

edit :~ and i am 1 of the ever higher % rate of west aus that are full vaxxed

[nstg8a]

If nothing else, the last few comments on this thread show just how divided and adversarial people have become….

[GO FURTHER]

US records more than 1 million COVID cases in one day.

The highly mutated variant drove cases to a record 1,083,948 – the most by a large margin that any country has ever reported.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/nort...04-p59lv0.html

[prydey]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

If nothing else, the last few comments on this thread show just how divided and adversarial people have become….

I agree and it wasn't the reason I jumped back in to comment. I just wanted to share my real life experience having recently travelled, compared to what people might think if they just relied on what they read in the 'news'.

I'm not trying to talk down the virus, but the virus now (omicron) is not the same virus that kicked things off. Like all viruses, they mutate, and generally mutate themselves out of existence eventually. With vaccination rates reasonably high, it doesn't make sense to still act the same as we did 2 years ago with border closures and lockdowns etc. It should be able to be managed just with density limits, social distancing, masks and good hygiene.

I say 'should' because there are always the few that just don't get it. I'm forever having people get in 'my space' when queuing etc but I'm not a confrontational person so I just move myself rather than telling them to move. At the zoo the other day a woman sat so close to my daughter, she actually sat partly on my daughters handbag. I just made sure we were all masked up rather than make a scene.

[Polyal]

It is getting interesting, and after doing a bit of interstate travel I think everyone is ready to move on.

Prior to <90% vaxxed I could see some reasoning for not opening up. Now that everyone who either wants to or can has had the opportunity then its time to just let it go.

A few questions for anyone who cares;

1. When do we stop wearing masks? What is the trigger, surely its not indefinite?

2. When do we stop publishing cases and just rely on websites etc for the data?

For me, 1. now...what more can we practically do? Are people suggesting there is no end date and we just wait it out?

2. What benefit is there, really, to know how many cases there are if you are vaxxed, what else can you actually do? Will you WFH forever? Not travel interstate anymore?

Unless people are dropping dead in the streets I cant see any actual path or trigger to move forward, we can be in limbo for much longer IMO.

[arm79]

Originally Posted by wodahs

and yet as said at the end of my last post if our boarders are really fully closed as you say how did we still manage to keep getting people for the east bringing it in tho wa

Because tourists who bought it in did it before the border was closed.

Originally Posted by wodahs

so where did we (wa) go so wrong to have been able to do all this not just now but thru out the pandemic
and ive not skipped a days work thru it all either , tho maybe lost a few ot hrs a week here and there but never had any gov payments

McClown has delivered an epic dictionary perfect gaslighting of the WA public... And the vast majority of you have lapped it up. He has done nothing other than set you up for a massive fall from a high cliff.

I personally think the eastern states have handled this opening of the borders badly. We have gone from strict restrictions to basically free overnight, in the scheme of things. There was no gradual easing in and it should have started earlier. There was no plan to prepare people. Just jump in the deep end in because, I believe, these idiot Premiers are playing political popularity games knowing their states wont stand for another Christmas locked down.

The fact they opened the borders and eased all these restrictions at the busiest time of the year, on top of everything else, is mindboggling to me. Even if there are alot of families and business who are thankful for it.

P.S. I am not saying it was unwelcomed or should it have been delayed any longer. Just the planning, execution and dealing with expected outcomes were certainly below par.

So what do you think will happen to WA on the 5th of February when, if McClown is true to his word, reopens the border and drops restrictions?

Do you really think covid will avoid you "just cos"? Do you really think McClown standing at a press conference singing Stop Right Now, Thank You Very Much and wagging his finger at the camera will scare covid from entering the state? What happens when you go from 1 case every few weeks to 1000 or 2000 a day? WA has had no practice or experience in dealing with this level of outbreak.

So you really think the WA public will cope when what's happening here now happens there when the avoidance strategy is dropped.

I know he made a big deal of your wonderful low unemployment. But do you realise what dangers he is doing to your biggest workforce.

Mining companies are employing workers on casual contracts, so they can turf them out at a moment notice. Right now you have mines who are employing some dope and firing him 3 days later only to show up at another mine a week later... Over and over. In some cases they are hiring undesirable workers for certain positions. Like one mine who hired a known and convicted alcoholic, with an outstanding offense, to drive and maintain heavy vehicles. Surely that's not normal.

I actually think ultimately he will renege on opening on the 5/2.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Pooka

Having just 18 kits that are TGA approved in Australia is way to low. There needs to be much more TGA approved kits available to the public. What's taking so long? A 160 approved for sale, but only 18 are TGA approved? Unbelievable.

Probably because there are 160 approved for sale. Its potentially a flooded market, so the returns are shaky.

Yes, RATs are currently the new toilet paper, but that can change in a matter of weeks. The South African omicron wave was over in a month. Given that we're not imposing major restrictions to draw this out, it's not unreasonable to think ours wont be a similar timeframe.

The other kits suppliers have probably decided that by the time they get approved and get stock into the country, the opportunity to make $$ will have passed. It would be a different story if this was likely to drag on for 3 months or more.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by arm79

Because tourists who bought it in did it before the border was closed.

thus shows we have been open and we will be open again even tho we arnt water tight closed atm
and dont take this as the full answer to your entire comment
tho ive read often we how we should be doing things from people from the eastern states that are having the the problems you say we are about to expect
so should we re open prier to getting to the vaccine saturation youve all achieved even tho our vaccine rate is still climbing ?? and let it run potentially worse that it has ran in the east ??

Originally Posted by arm79

McClown has delivered an epic dictionary perfect gaslighting of the WA public... And the vast majority of you have lapped it up. He has done nothing other than set you up for a massive fall from a high cliff.

I personally think the eastern states have handled this opening of the borders badly. We have gone from strict restrictions to basically free overnight, in the scheme of things. There was no gradual easing in and it should have started earlier. There was no plan to prepare people. Just jump in the deep end in because, I believe, these idiot Premiers are playing political popularity games knowing their states wont stand for another Christmas locked down.

The fact they opened the borders and eased all these restrictions at the busiest time of the year, on top of everything else, is mindboggling to me. Even if there are alot of families and business who are thankful for it.

P.S. I am not saying it was unwelcomed or should it have been delayed any longer. Just the planning, execution and dealing with expected outcomes were certainly below par.

So what do you think will happen to WA on the 5th of February when, if McClown is true to his word, reopens the border and drops restrictions?

when we make the % rate set to reopen and we do reopen i my self would be no less surprised that we end up in a similar situation to what the east have , but hopefully with a higher vaccinated % hopefully it wont be as bad as opening now
p.s. it has been stated for a while now that there will restrictions imposed that we havent had on the main from then , like mask wearing on public transport and such tho i highly doubt that will be the case of joe public vaccinated or not

Originally Posted by arm79

Do you really think covid will avoid you "just cos"? Do you really think McClown standing at a press conference singing Stop Right Now, Thank You Very Much and wagging his finger at the camera will scare covid from entering the state? What happens when you go from 1 case every few weeks to 1000 or 2000 a day? WA has had no practice or experience in dealing with this level of outbreak. So you really think the WA public will cope.

so you believe that things would be better for us not worse if we just well listen to the ones on here and tell us we should be fully open now ?

Originally Posted by arm79

I know he made a big deal of your wonderful low unemployment. But do you realise what dangers he is doing to your biggest workforce.

Mining companies are employing workers on casual contracts, so they can turf them out at a moment notice. Right now you have mines who are employing some dope and firing him 3 days later only to show up at another mine a week later... Over and over. In some cases they are hiring undesirable workers for certain positions. Like one mine who hired a known and convicted alcoholic, with an outstanding offense, to drive and maintain heavy vehicles. Surely that's not normal.

you stating this kind of stuff has never happened any where else nor prier to the pandemic
big companies have been doing such for ages
and as for pollies being in bed with them instead of the worker such had been the situation for years prier too and not just one state or federal either
tho i am employed full time and have accrued my seconded amount of annual leave

Originally Posted by arm79

I actually think ultimately he will renege on opening on the 5/2.

if /when we hit the % rate expected to open , i hope he does open nor will i be surprised if he tries to change his plan , tho unless he can sell the reason to change i cant see it going down well for him

now why is it that even tho like the other states we have a plan to re open , so many believe justified in sharing their real life experiences to justify anothers state to reopen at their time frame with their believed hype that we havent done stuff
and nor had i in any of the above comments
i have only replied at how they feel our state needs to conform to wear they currently see them selfs

albeit my original comment was replying to some one blaming the french population for bringing a euro variant to not just australia but wa
a variant that i hope is no worse or more dominant that the omnicron

[FairmontGS]

Novak Djokovic to play in Australian Open after receiving COVID-19 vaccination exemption
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...alia/100738536

[DJR-351]

Obviously got more pull and better connections than David Reynolds

.....and who would have guessed there would be an uproar, monkeys!

https://wwos.nine.com.au/tennis/tenn...n-under_040122

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by wodahs

we have ??
you have a link to this crap , as last i knew he caught and brought it from queensland

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-...ites/100722696



and due to the date he arrived in australia prier to the new variant makes it some what harder for him to catch in queensland than the delta which wasnt spreading there at that time ??

yes we can do better even tho over the whole pandemic we have registered less than half a daily GSS out break and have got on with work and our lives even if we have had to wear masks for a few weeks here and there , atleast we arnt like other in other states hiding under doona's and b!tching!ng bout it

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/no-...tate-c-5183999

How did he " caught and brought it from Qld "
He may of picked it up here in WA, but I doubt that, he may of been a carrier all along, so he could be a rare beast and carry the virus for years, and yet not feel any negative effects or illnesses.

End of answer to ( do you have a link to this CRAP )