Covid 19 -

[slowsnake]

He has a certain "arrogance" about him, his manner or demeanour. a la Bernard Tomic, maybe it's a cultural thing!

[pwr4ce]

Hang on - I found a letter from his doctor


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[FairmontGS]

ABC had the Professor of International Law from ANU on just now. He made it sound pretty simple - VIC Gov-co and TA held out to Joker and his team that he'd been granted an "exemption to play". Joker and Team took that as permission to get on the plane. Someone in TA or VIC gov-co needed to get an exemption from Border Force. They didn't.

End of story.

[slowsnake]

End of chapter 1 maybe, but there's a lot more to come, but to what end?
What is the "real" agenda?.....and there has to be one.

[knight rider]

Originally Posted by russellw

2020 v 2021
In 2020, over the 9 months that the pandemic really ran for there were 83.5M cases reported globally and 1.935M deaths for a CMR of 2.3064%.

In 2021, the year has seen 204.875M cases (+244%) and 3.506M deaths (+181%) for a CMR of 1.7117% - or roughly a 25% reduction in the global CMR. The difference in those CMR numbers resulted in 1,218,310 people not dying, largely due to the vaccination programs along with better treatment protocols.

In our little microcosm, the numbers are a bit starker given how bad the impact was of the aged-care debacle in 2020.

2020 saw 29,731 cases and 911 deaths for a CMR that was poor by global standards, of 3.064%. In 2021, we had 371,259 (12.5x more) cases and 1,323 deaths (1.45x more) for a much better than the global average CMR of 0.356% - that’s an 89% improvement in the CMR and it is even lower thus far in 2022 .

Just as well we didn't have the same CMR as 2020 because that would have resulted in another 11,376 deaths or >10x the number we actually had.

It’s not strictly relevant but we’ve already had 77% of the total case number for 2021 in the first 6 days of 2022 so we’ll pass that total in the next few days.

Would the Omicron strain have a part in why deaths are down - it spreads faster and is less deadly - makes sense to me

maybe if trying to find a correlation to which countries fair better or even states by states - population density plays a big roll and even how they live

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

ABC had the Professor of International Law from ANU on just now. He made it sound pretty simple - VIC Gov-co and TA held out to Joker and his team that he'd been granted an "exemption to play". Joker and Team took that as permission to get on the plane. Someone in TA or VIC gov-co needed to get an exemption from Border Force. They didn't.

End of story.

That's a new one....

Immigration expert Abul Rizvi (former Immigration Department deputy secretary) details three legal questions in Novak Djokovic’s favour

https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis...87b4e77c463558

“If I were Mr Djokovic‘s lawyer, there would be three questions I would be asking,” he said.

“The first question: ‘If my client had not met all of the legal requirements for a visa, why did you grant him a visa?’

“The second question I would ask is: ‘If you had concerns about my client’s visa, why did you not cancel that visa prior to him boarding a plane to Australia?’

“The third question I would ask is: ‘Given that you granted my client a visa, and none of the circumstances prior to grant have changed since that time, on what basis can you cancel that visa?’”

[FairmontGS]

https://www.anu.edu.au/students/prog...ints-procedure



You could hold a Royal Commission I guess but you might find no-one was to blame...again

[xkxlxm]

Djokovic is not an attractive personality; he is not widely popular here, unlike Nadal, Federer etc.

Someone has an election to win and sees this as a vote winner. Message to so-called Border Force: "don't let him in".

It's pretty simple.

[slowsnake]

[Tonz]

Tennis Australia will be the ones with c r a p over their faces.
They know very well the $$$ he brings in,

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

My mum finally received her PCR test result yesterday: negative.

That was 8 days after she had the test done. To be fair to the labs, that was over the Xmas/NY period, too, but still a lot longer than was expected.

I had my test completed on Wednesday this week. Hoping the result does not take as long as my mum's to come back. Fully expecting it to be negative, too.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by knight rider

Would the Omicron strain have a part in why deaths are down - it spreads faster and is less deadly - makes sense to me

maybe if trying to find a correlation to which countries fair better or even states by states - population density plays a big roll and even how they live

Absolutely it does although that impact was probably only evident for the last month of 2021 so you'd expect more flow on in the next few months.

For example, Australia (thus far) shows a raw CMR in 2022 of 0.024% and although the 14-day adjusted CMR is probably closer to 0.064% that's still orders of magnitude ahead of 2021 - about 80% lower in fact.

[russellw]

Australia
NSW records 38,625 cases in the current period (a new record high) and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.2414 (from 1.2269) while the actual line is still well above the predictive trend line.



VIC records 21,728 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.2436 (from 1.2818) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend.



Queensland (10,322), ACT (992) and NT (212) set new daily highs yesterday (6/1).

.. and here is the predictive trend graph for both NSW / Victoria based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 6th 2022.

72,226 new cases for Australia (a new record) and 12 deaths so the CMR is 0.336% - the first time it’s been below New Zealand in over a year.

NZ recorded 62 cases and 0 deaths for a CMR of 0.353%.

The UK recorded 179,721 cases and 231 deaths for a CMR of 1.067%.

704,031 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,901 deaths sees CMR at 1.452%.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 300M, the last 3M in 1 day;
North America sets a new daily high with 782,350 cases recorded on 5/1;
North America passes 70M cases;
Europe passes 93M cases;
The USA passes 59M cases;
The UK passes 14M cases;
France passes 11M cases;

Grenada (314);
Mali (766);
Suriname (916);
Guyana (967);
Jamaica (1,128);
Mauritania (1,179);
Albania (1,684) – the previous high (1,239) on 12/2/21;
North Macedonia (1,725) – the previous high (1,511) on 30/3/21;
Kuwait (2,413);
Qatar (2,779) – the previous high (2,355) on 30/5/21;
Montenegro (2,960);
Dominican Republic (5,307);
Lebanon (7,257) – the previous high (6,154) on 15/1/21;
Croatia (9,058);
Serbia (9.122);
Bolivia (10,263);
Ireland (23,817);
Netherlands (24,575);
Belgium (27,796) – the previous high (23,921) on 30/10/20;
Australia (72,226);
Turkey (68,413);
Argentina (109,608); and
Italy (219,441);

... all recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Hungary, Colombia, Peru, India and Mexico move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.

[russellw]

Some early research for Omicron out of South Africa provided by the private health group Netcare who have about 10k hospital beds throughout the country.

The comparison is for hospital admissions and treatment across the Delta and Omicron waves but it should be cautioned that the latter is still not at a peak.

68% of Delta patients presenting to hospital required hospitalisation compared to 41.6% for Omicron - about 30% less.

The average age of patients admitted to hospital was significantly lower for Omicron than Delta - 42 vs 58.

The proportion of patients presenting with an acute respiratory condition was a lot lower (31.6%) for Omicron then Delta (91.2%).

The proportion of patients requiring oxygen therapy significantly decreased - 17.6% for Omicron vs 74% for Delta.

Admission to intensive care was 18.5% for Omicron vs 29.9% for Delta.

The median LOS (7-8 days in previous waves) decreased to 3 days for Omicron.

The mortality rate was 2.7% for Omicron compared to 19.7% (Alpha) and 29.1% (Delta). Note that those rates are only based on those actually hospitalised!

[MITCHAY]

1246 for ACT. Tas says hold my beer and goes 1489.

Appears restrictions are pretty much a certainty today in GSS given all the speculation going around.

[T3rminator]

It is now mandatory for Vics to report a positive rapid test to Vic Gov. Can be done via phone or......

https://dhvicgovau.powerappsportals....-antigen-test/

Obviously an honour system. Will be interesting if we see numbers rise or drop.

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

1246 for ACT. Tas says hold my beer and goes 1489.

Appears restrictions are pretty much a certainty today in GSS given all the speculation going around.

No dancing or singing allowed in NSW!

Oh the humanity!

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

No dancing or singing allowed in NSW!

Oh the humanity!

That is the Domicron wet lettuce restrictions. To appear like doing something without doing anything.

The real 'help' to the health system pressure is that they are canning elective surgery

I bet McGowan is ****ing himself though

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

No dancing or singing allowed in NSW!

Oh the humanity!

Sigh... :(

puts line-dancing boots back in the wardrobe

[pwr4ce]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

That is the Domicron wet lettuce restrictions. To appear like doing something without doing anything.

The real 'help' to the health system pressure is that they are canning elective surgery

I bet McGowan is ****ing himself though

McGowan will be watching smuggly


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[Pooka]

If people are now dying because they cannot get treatment, as the medial systems are overwhelmed because of Covid cases, should they then be included in the 'Died because of Covid' category?

Wonder what the numbers would be if we started counting the deaths that are occurring from car accidents, heart attacks, etc, etc,... because the 000 line is overwhelmed, Ambo's cannot get to them in time, doctors cannot treat in time, hospitals haven't got enough beds, etc etc, as they're all too busy with Covid patients?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Pooka

If people are now dying because they cannot get treatment, as the medial systems are overwhelmed because of Covid cases, should they then be included in the 'Died because of Covid' category?

Get treatment for what? I've been told that some elective surgery has been postponed, as it was last year, but serious cases are still getting the usual treatment.

[Pooka]

Also, any truth to the talk that NSW are going to stop counting Covid patients who were admitted to hospital for reasons other than Covid, but either had Covid already, or contracted Covid in hospital and are now being treated for Covid? Officially, they weren't originally admitted for Covid, so not a Covid patient apparently??

For example, Dominic was shot in the head, he was Covid + already before his unfortunate "accident", was admitted to hospital for a bullet wound, Covid kicks in and he's now having trouble breathing. His now getting treatment for Covid, but he is NOT counted as a Covid patient?? He's officially down as a gunshot patient.

If he dies because of the Covid causing him breathing issues, what is the official cause of death? Died because of gunshot wound, or Covid? The answer I would think is pretty obvious. But it's not so black and white across the Murray river, apparently.

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Pooka

Also, any truth to the talk that NSW are going to stop counting Covid patients who were admitted to hospital for reasons other than Covid, but either had Covid already, or contracted Covid in hospital and are now being treated for Covid? Officially, they weren't originally admitted for Covid, so not a Covid patient apparently??

For example, Dominic was shot in the head, he was Covid + already before his unfortunate "accident", was admitted to hospital for a bullet wound, Covid kicks in and he's now having trouble breathing. His now getting treatment for Covid, but he is NOT counted as a Covid patient?? He's officially down as a gunshot patient.

If he dies because of the Covid causing him breathing issues, what is the official cause of death? Died because of gunshot wound, or Covid? The answer I would think is pretty obvious. But it's not so black and white across the Murray river, apparently.

Man, you're really out there aren't you. Hope you can find the Mother Ship before the Lizards get you.

[MITCHAY]

I mean from the health system perspective it is still bums in bed which then leaves less beds. If they would otherwise not be admitted to hospital then they should not be counted as a Covid hospital admission in my opinion.

Hospital admissions tend to increase during holidays anyway as far as I'm aware and certainly it is contributing to the huge increase in Covid numbers.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

The interactions between our State and Federal governments over the last two years, and over the last couple of days with respect to immigration laws, just acts to reinforce my belief that a 3-tier government structure for our country is no longer suitable.

Yes, yes I understand (well, probably not fully, I'm no expert in this area) that the Constitution doesn't allow for it, etc, but that is not my point.

It is time that our government structure was reviewed. But it will never happen.

[T3rminator]

Well its been confirmed. We are in a self imposed economic lock down. Chan 10 just reported that this period has seen the lowest spending in VIC and NSW since 2020 lock downs. It is going to be a massive hit.

A work colleague was set to go watch a moulin rouge tonight. Its been canned due to staff shortage. One of the managers is down in Sorrento at the moment, said a lot of the pubs, bars, restaurants are closed, thinks its also due to staff shortage. OUCH!

Is this the wave we have been asked to ride out?

The NSW ICU Demand and Capacity modelling is expecting 4700 hospitilisations by mid to late January if current trend continues. 6000 if it follows NY trend. 3158 if it follows London trend.

[FairmontGS]

Serbia demands Australia move Novak Djokovic to a nicer hotel

Serbia's foreign minister has hauled in Australia's ambassador to the Balkan country to demand tennis star Novak Djokovic be moved to a nicer hotel while he is in immigration detention after his visa was cancelled.

The intervention comes as Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan revealed Tennis Australia did not inform her government about Morrison government letters stating a prior COVID infection - the basis for Djokovic's exemption - would not be accepted as a genuine exemption.

Whoopsie...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/more...?ocid=msedgntp

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Serbia demands Australia move Novak Djokovic to a nicer hotel



Whoopsie...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/more...?ocid=msedgntp

Looks like Andrews has some explaining to do not end of story quite yet...