AU V8 models: Basic questions answered!

[STINKY NINJA]

Originally Posted by keno49

Hi Guys,
I have put AU series 3 XR8 heads, manifold & cam into a my rebuilt 5lt EB2 wagon. I've been told the ECU has to be reprogrammed and I also need a 90mm MAS and I can't appear to find one in Australia. Can some one give me advice on this Thanks from keno49

I have the exact same combo on my eb bottom end with a standard e series tune 55mm maf and t/b. It runs very well.
It will run lean if you use a bigger t/b and maf.
It is on the limit for the standard eb tune though because ive had mine on the dyno and its around 13/1 afr although ive never had it ping on me using 98 octane.
The guy who dynoed my car told me it will be fine for everyday driving and the odd blast down the drags but refrain from doing burnouts.
Almost 30000km down the track ive had no issues and ive been to the drage 3 or 4 times.

[BHDOGS]

90mm lightning maf on eBay from America mate if you want one cheapest I've seen

[Nic302ef]

Originally Posted by XH5LWEPN

Just thought id throw this out there seeing as though this thread popped back up the other day.
I pulled the 200kw engine down out of my AUII XR8 ute tonight to carry out a freshen up.
I got the dial indicator and magnetic stand out and measured the Yella Terra rockers that were fitted to it, and can confirm that they were also 1.7:1 ratio.

Originally Posted by BOTTLEDUP

Agreed Jeff, I've been through all my Crane data, and I cannot find any evidence past or present of Crane making a 1.6:1 ratio pedestal rocker... Only 1.7:1 ratio.

ultra intresting info there, chuck a dial gauge on the crane rockers and confirm ratio.

In saying that the crane ones where made specific for Ford, so maybe thats why there the 1.6's and not avliable in the crane catalogue...

[XH5LWEPN]

Originally Posted by Nic302ef

In saying that the crane ones where made specific for Ford, so maybe thats why there the 1.6's and not avliable in the crane catalogue...

These are the only Crane/Ford Racing ones we can see, and they are 1.7's.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-6564-A50/

[Nic302ef]

Originally Posted by XH5LWEPN

These are the only Crane/Ford Racing ones we can see, and they are 1.7's.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-6564-A50/

guess will need to confirm the rocker arms from a 200 engine, cant rememeber if there was a part number off the rocker fitted to the falcon or is that the number that is on there?

Was looking at a set of them just the other day too lol.

[andoef]

Hi there people, been a while since I was on here...
Have a question, I have a 11/01 build AUII XR8 ute,, I have had valve train noise for ages... Long story short, i pulled the rocker covers off today and found a broken valve spring... Howver the suprising part is that It has Yella Terra Roller rockers and double valve springs. Does this mean it is a 220kwe long motor? OR are all 200kw valve springs double and i just lucked out with some 220kw rockers? Heads are cast iron. Basically with the engine open how can I tell which long motor it is? Throttle body has no wings and there is no oil cooler... Need to know because i want to order a spring thru Ford..Thanks fellas

[RG]

Originally Posted by andoef

Hi there people, been a while since I was on here...
Have a question, I have a 11/01 build AUII XR8 ute,, I have had valve train noise for ages... Long story short, i pulled the rocker covers off today and found a broken valve spring... Howver the suprising part is that It has Yella Terra Roller rockers and double valve springs. Does this mean it is a 220kwe long motor? OR are all 200kw valve springs double and i just lucked out with some 220kw rockers? Heads are cast iron. Basically with the engine open how can I tell which long motor it is? Throttle body has no wings and there is no oil cooler... Need to know because i want to order a spring thru Ford..Thanks fellas

Towards the end they just started throwing whatever they had into the utes. b2tf found the same thing, still only a 200 though I dare say.

[auIILTD]

Originally Posted by RG

Towards the end they just started throwing whatever they had into the utes. b2tf found the same thing, still only a 200 though I dare say.

OMG, Russ lives!

Do you miss your AU Russ?

Stu

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by RG

Towards the end they just started throwing whatever they had into the utes. b2tf found the same thing, still only a 200 though I dare say.

Yeh found the same thing on 2 AU3 XR8 utes i owned.

[iceman123]

Yeh hi
ive been looking for a straight forward
answer on engine no"s
I want to know with out looking @ pages after pages of total ********
What are the start off LETERS & NUMBERS
A HAND BUILT 220kw ENGINE

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by iceman123

Yeh hi
ive been looking for a straight forward
answer on engine no"s
I want to know with out looking @ pages after pages of total ********
What are the start off LETERS & NUMBERS
A HAND BUILT 220kw ENGINE

The above mentioned 'pages of *********' would actually answer your question if you bothered to look.
The VIN number will not necessarily identify a 220 engine - you need to check a few things on the engine to know for sure.

But you know what - read the above mentioned 'pages' and find the answer yourself.

[iceman123]

Sorry if im missing something
6 years of uni and the last 20 year
A marine enginer its the 1st ford ive owned & through
& through im an GM FAN the trouble ive had with everything ford
LOOKS LIKE I CAN HEAR THE CALL OF THE LION "S
RAWwwwwwww
&
ITS BACK TO
HSV FOR ME !!!

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by iceman123

Sorry if im missing something
6 years of uni and the last 20 year
A marine enginer its the 1st ford ive owned & through
& through im an GM FAN the trouble ive had with everything ford
LOOKS LIKE I CAN HEAR THE CALL OF THE LION "S
RAWwwwwwww
&
ITS BACK TO
HSV FOR ME !!!

Haha! All that education and you still can't read a forum or make a post.

Enjoy your commodore.

[keno49]

Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

I have the exact same combo on my eb bottom end with a standard e series tune 55mm maf and t/b. It runs very well.
It will run lean if you use a bigger t/b and maf.
It is on the limit for the standard eb tune though because ive had mine on the dyno and its around 13/1 afr although ive never had it ping on me using 98 octane.
The guy who dynoed my car told me it will be fine for everyday driving and the odd blast down the drags but refrain from doing burnouts.
Almost 30000km down the track ive had no issues and ive been to the drage 3 or 4 times.

At long last I have the wagon back on the road again. Thanks for the above advise. Just wondering what your eb produced on the dyno Cheers Keno49

[DaveTE]

Originally Posted by iceman123

Sorry if im missing something
6 years of uni and the last 20 year
A marine enginer its the 1st ford ive owned & through
& through im an GM FAN the trouble ive had with everything ford
LOOKS LIKE I CAN HEAR THE CALL OF THE LION "S
RAWwwwwwww
&
ITS BACK TO
HSV FOR ME !!!

6 years of uni and the last 20 years a marine engineer, still can not read, spell or type. Thanks god it's back to Holden for you. Correction is "I'm a GM FAN"

[revcore]

Originally Posted by iceman123

Sorry if im missing something
6 years of uni and the last 20 year
A marine enginer its the 1st ford ive owned & through
& through im an GM FAN the trouble ive had with everything ford
LOOKS LIKE I CAN HEAR THE CALL OF THE LION "S
RAWwwwwwww
&
ITS BACK TO
HSV FOR ME !!!

Six years of uni and you are having trouble reading a few pages of USEFUL information on a forum? I'm a high school dropout and even I can read and understand this stuff

[auIILTD]

Ok Gents. This is not a newbie, GM or grammar bash thread. Points have been made, let's leave it at that. Any further posts having a shot at the iceman post will be deleted.

[revcore]

Originally Posted by auIILTD

Ok Gents. This is not a newbie, GM or grammar bash thread. Points have been made, let's leave it at that. Any further posts having a shot at the iceman post will be deleted.

Very true...My apoligies.

[nstg8a]

Were xr v8 engine numbers different to none xr?

Just trying to work out if my lane has had a xr motor or something done to it.

Doesn't have any of the external clues, like the ticky tb or anything like that, but it just seems to go really well for what should be quite a 'sedate' big old car.

[Ride]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

Were xr v8 engine numbers different to none xr?

Just trying to work out if my lane has had a xr motor or something done to it.

Doesn't have any of the external clues, like the ticky tb or anything like that, but it just seems to go really well for what should be quite a 'sedate' big old car.

Engine number should match VIN number. If they don't, motor has been swapped out at some stage.

[nstg8a]

Of course, I never thought of that, il check it in daylight tomorrow.

[MercurySilver]

ok so this is in an au 5 litre from a fairmont ghia
someone tell me something about it
would be 175kw?
although it does have 3 inch and cold air induction fitted

cheers

[Ride]

Yes, it's a 175kw motor. May have a little bit more power with the mods, but all Fairmont Ghia's had the 175 motor

[Gazza440]

Originally Posted by andoef

Hi there people, been a while since I was on here...
Have a question, I have a 11/01 build AUII XR8 ute,, I have had valve train noise for ages... Long story short, i pulled the rocker covers off today and found a broken valve spring... Howver the suprising part is that It has Yella Terra Roller rockers and double valve springs. Does this mean it is a 220kwe long motor? OR are all 200kw valve springs double and i just lucked out with some 220kw rockers? Heads are cast iron. Basically with the engine open how can I tell which long motor it is? Throttle body has no wings and there is no oil cooler... Need to know because i want to order a spring thru Ford..Thanks fellas

I like this post... Got the same deal man except mine is fully optioned AU111
and has the oil cooler.. and 3.5 inch behind airbox and a 70ml TB (NO WINGS EITHER) and a dotmax windscreen and clear side indicator lenses and colour coded mirrors so Im upset now to read FORD just threw whatever they found on it... What a bitsa

[FULSIK]

My au 11 xr8 pursuit ute also the 1.72 yella terra rockers, doesnt have the factory c & c ported heads like the 220, the part number on the cam indicates its 200kw spec cam shaft and it doesnt have the tickford throttle body. odd....

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by FULSIK

My au 11 xr8 pursuit ute also the 1.72 yella terra rockers, doesnt have the factory c & c ported heads like the 220, the part number on the cam indicates its 200kw spec cam shaft and it doesnt have the tickford throttle body. odd....

Not as odd as you might think, I've had 2 XR utes like that now, both were series III and NOT 220's!

[Dauphin]

I was wondering if anyone has an an AUII Windsor V8 engine bay diagram of what's what? So I can locate all the components and know what they are before I remove an engine and put it into another engine bay. Thank you...

[SSD-85]

Bit of a threadmine here, but am needing some confirmation on the AU2 sedan 200kw motor;

- Crane 1.6/1.7 RRs
- E303 Camshaft
- Headers & Exhaust
- Regular 175kw TB

[FULSIK]

Originally Posted by SSD-85

Bit of a threadmine here, but am needing some confirmation on the AU2 sedan 200kw motor;

- Crane 1.6/1.7 RRs
- E303 Camshaft
- Headers & Exhaust
- Regular 175kw TB

What about it? I have all the except that tb in my 200kw motor. Made 192kw atw not tuned

[Blue Shadow]

Originally Posted by JC

While we're picking, the XR8 utes on 200kw guise would have had the EGR spacer as well - all 200kw motors did. The 220 is the only one with a single solid TB/EGR setup.

Austin - as a moderator, can't you go back and edit your original post? I think it's worth doing because anyone that reads it will go, "Oh, OK, so that's the story", only to read further down and find all the corrections, which then makes people question the correctness of any info posted in a "one stop Q & A" type thread. I'd correct it with the right info, delete the below corrections, then close it so it's a one post thread (oh, and sticky it)!

Hi JC
i was just looking at this old thread, I just got a 11/01 xr8 ute, thimking it had the spacer it was a 185kw, but reading this it coild be a 200kw. I havent called ford yet, but is it possiable it is 200kw

Thanks