Apple releases new iPhone model - The iPhone 4 - Page 6

**DJM83** · 04-07-2010, 04:26 PM

Lets not get to concerned over this shall we.

FGX-351 · 04-07-2010, 06:18 PM

We just dropped prices on all our 3G S Iphones, I haven't heard anything official but i'm expecting that we'll start selling the 4G within the next 2-3 weeks.

**DJM83** · 04-07-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa

We just dropped prices on all our 3G S Iphones, I haven't heard anything official but i'm expecting that we'll start selling the 4G within the next 2-3 weeks.

Is that the outright price yeah? I was going to wait to get a 4 (On contract) but decided to get the 3GS instead, im not a fan of the 'first' of something

Spudz27 · 04-07-2010, 07:22 PM

Well I have had my 3GS for a week. Got it on a $49plan with vodafone and get $450 worth of calls plus 500mb data. I must say that the new update to the phone is great (I had a touch for a few years). Love being able to group apps and have multitasking. My mrs really wants an Iphone also so when the 4 comes out I will probably get that and give her the current contract. Mate of mine works in an apple store and says the 4 Iphone 4 is awesome, he has seen one they have for demo and 2 of his mates imported theirs from the U.S.

FGX-351 · 08-07-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Is that the outright price yeah? I was going to wait to get a 4 (On contract) but decided to get the 3GS instead, im not a fan of the 'first' of something

Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner, our outright prices haven't changed($999 16GB, $1299 32GB) the only change is iphones are now available full subsidised $0 up front on the $49+ cap(16GB) and $79+ cap(32GB).

Was doing my training tonight on the iphone 4G, seems to better the 3GS in ever aspect of battery life by an hour except standby time where both are equal.
Not sure if i'm supposed to say this but we will definetly be selling the iphone 4G from the 28th of this month.

I went out and bought an 8GB ipod touch tonight so I can have a play with the iOS4 lol.
Cheers guys!

FGX-351 · 08-07-2010, 11:02 PM

I know this isn't the biggest selling point but I thought ild just let everyone know video calling is only available via wifi on the Iphone 4 and will only be available iphone4 to iphone4 at release.
Its called facetalk or something similar(mindblank atm.)

GS608 · 09-07-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa

I know this isn't the biggest selling point but I thought ild just let everyone know video calling is only available via wifi on the Iphone 4 and will only be available iphone4 to iphone4 at release.
Its called facetalk or something similar(mindblank atm.)

Gees seems a bit of a waste of development costs then, can't even use it with skype? they finally add a feature most phones have had for years and can't even do that right

FGX-351 · 09-07-2010, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

Gees seems a bit of a waste of development costs then, can't even use it with skype? they finally add a feature most phones have had for years and can't even do that right

In our training they said how advanced the technology is and that they made other video calling methods unavailable so companies will adopt the new tech. lol

RG · 09-07-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

Gees seems a bit of a waste of development costs then, can't even use it with skype? they finally add a feature most phones have had for years and can't even do that right

Honestly is there even anyone that uses video calling?

4Vman · 09-07-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RG

Honestly is there even anyone that uses video calling?

The concept of video calling frightens me..!

Spudz27 · 09-07-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa

Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner, our outright prices haven't changed($999 16GB, $1299 32GB) the only change is iphones are now available full subsidised $0 up front on the $49+ cap(16GB) and $79+ cap(32GB).

Was doing my training tonight on the iphone 4G, seems to better the 3GS in ever aspect of battery life by an hour except standby time where both are equal.
Not sure if i'm supposed to say this but we will definetly be selling the iphone 4G from the 28th of this month.

I went out and bought an 8GB ipod touch tonight so I can have a play with the iOS4 lol.
Cheers guys!

The full features of iso4 do not work on the touch. The only thing that seems to work is grouping programs together. Other than that I could not see any difference between iso4 and the previous version. Iso4 on my iphone is great but.

HSE2 · 09-07-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EDfutura25

The full features of iso4 do not work on the touch. The only thing that seems to work is grouping programs together. Other than that I could not see any difference between iso4 and the previous version. Iso4 on my iphone is great but.

I can tell a difference on my touch. There is airplane mode now or at least I don’t think it had that before.

Spell check and some other related stuff but most importantly it’s just about stuffed my iPod. Never gave an ounce of trouble before. Battery use has gone up, locks up, freezes some apps no longer work (app issue with software) and now has issues multi tasking, i.e. using safari while listening to music is a love/ hate relationship.

What I liked about Apple before, in that the device just worked, has well and truly gone out the door. Time again I would not upgrade, especially so now that my favourite Cricket game won’t work properly.

FGX-351 · 09-07-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EDfutura25

The full features of iso4 do not work on the touch. The only thing that seems to work is grouping programs together. Other than that I could not see any difference between iso4 and the previous version. Iso4 on my iphone is great but.

Yeah I knew that when buying but honestly I just wanted to have something to play with lol.

Rastus · 09-07-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HSE2

I can tell a difference on my touch. There is airplane mode now or at least I don’t think it had that before.

Spell check and some other related stuff but most importantly it’s just about stuffed my iPod. Never gave an ounce of trouble before. Battery use has gone up, locks up, freezes some apps no longer work (app issue with software) and now has issues multi tasking, i.e. using safari while listening to music is a love/ hate relationship.

What I liked about Apple before, in that the device just worked, has well and truly gone out the door. Time again I would not upgrade, especially so now that my favourite Cricket game won’t work properly.

Same boat here HSE2.
IOS4 is definitely not the best move for anyone with an iPhone 3G. Slows it down and makes it a bit of a dog. Sure, it's fine for 3GS and upcoming 4, but it's put the handbrake on the 3G. After 3 hard reboots by holding down the on-off & home button it picks up a little, but not as snappy as 3.1.3. More memory intensive or something?
On the topic of the iPhone 4, I'm sure it'll be fine, even with the reported antenna issue. At least Optus people will have an iPhone that'll run on their 3G frequency now outside of cities/major centres (900Mhz) unlike the 3G/3GS.

**DJM83** · 09-07-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa

Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner, our outright prices haven't changed($999 16GB, $1299 32GB) the only change is iphones are now available full subsidised $0 up front on the $49+ cap(16GB) and $79+ cap(32GB).

Was doing my training tonight on the iphone 4G, seems to better the 3GS in ever aspect of battery life by an hour except standby time where both are equal.
Not sure if i'm supposed to say this but we will definetly be selling the iphone 4G from the 28th of this month.

I went out and bought an 8GB ipod touch tonight so I can have a play with the iOS4 lol.
Cheers guys!

No worries mate, who do you work for incase i missed it?
My 16GB 3GS was $0 on $69 cap

My poor XF · 09-07-2010, 07:23 PM

I find safari freezes slightly (3GS) when switching pages with os4, especially if you switch a page whilst the link is loading. Apart from that it's seamless.

HLC · 09-07-2010, 10:16 PM

Can't wait to upgrade my 3g. It's as slow as a wet week compared to my gf's 3gs!

FGX-351 · 10-07-2010, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

No worries mate, who do you work for incase i missed it?
My 16GB 3GS was $0 on $69 cap

I work at a Telstra shop on the northside(i'ld prefer to say the suburb through pm if your interested)

**DJM83** · 10-07-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa

I work at a Telstra shop on the northside(i'ld prefer to say the suburb through pm if your interested)

All good mate was just curious about it as i just signed up to a plan. Not at Northlakes by any chance

FGX-351 · 11-07-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

All good mate was just curious about it as i just signed up to a plan. Not at Northlakes by any chance

lol! Definetly not!
Was there two years ago....no thanks haha

FG XR · 11-07-2010, 04:11 PM

i find it funny apple have the antenna problem with the iphone 4 and all of a sudden they start manufacturing their own brand of "bumpers" for $35.00 each which they say "fixes the problem"...

More like they found the problem when production already started and devices were shipping but obviously would cost too much to re-manufacture the iphone 4 to fix the issue in an obviously flawed design.

vztrt · 13-07-2010, 09:08 PM

http://www.theage.com.au/digital-lif...ml?autostart=1

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Tests confirm iPhone 4 'design flaw'
July 13, 2010 - 2:00PM

Consumer Reports, the US equivalent of Choice magazine, said it is not recommending Apple's iPhone 4 following tests confirming the handset has a hardware flaw that causes signal quality to degrade.

"The problem seems to be a design flaw, and it is significant," Mike Gikas, senior electronics editor for Consumer Reports, said in an interview. The publication has recommended the three previous iPhone models.

Tests were conducted in a room designed to eliminate radio-frequency interference, he said.

The results showed that, when a user covers the phone's lower-left side, where two parts of the external antenna meet, the loss of signal strength may lead to dropped calls in areas where AT&T's coverage is weak.

The tests suggest AT&T's network, often criticised for spotty iPhone coverage, is not responsible for the signal problems.

AT&T is the iPhone's exclusive carrier in the US. Apple says the problem is software-related and involves how the phone displays signal strength. A fix will be released, the company said on July 2.

"If the signal is strong in the area, then you won't lose the call," Gikas said. Consumer Reports is published by the nonprofit Consumers Union, based in Yonkers, New York.

Natalie Kerris, a spokeswoman for Apple, did not return phone and email messages seeking comment.

Mark Siegel, a spokesman for AT&T in Dallas, had no comment.

More phones tested

Consumer Reports also tested other phones, including Apple's older iPhone 3GS, and the Palm Pre, and found they did not suffer from the same problems as the iPhone 4, Gikas said.

Gikas suggested that users who experience the problem apply duct tape, which does not conduct electricity, to the gap in order to reduce the chance of causing signal interference.

Apple has faced criticism since the phone went on sale June 24, with consumers complaining about losses of signal strength when holding the phone along its left-side black stripe.

Bloomberg

Source: smh.com.au

GS608 · 13-07-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

http://www.theage.com.au/digital-lif...ml?autostart=1

Sounds like its a bit of a dud, form over function.

XR8putts · 13-07-2010, 09:39 PM

As a massive iPhone fan and the current owner of a 3GS, even I can lol at the massive blunder by Apple (I'm still amazed people are saying there is no issue).

Only have 6 months left on my contract and I'm sure the issue will be sorted by then! Wooo!

**DJM83** · 14-07-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by puts99

As a massive iPhone fan and the current owner of a 3GS, even I can lol at the massive blunder by Apple (I'm still amazed people are saying there is no issue).

Only have 6 months left on my contract and I'm sure the issue will be sorted by then! Wooo!

Id be interested to see 'how' they fix it

vztrt · 14-07-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Id be interested to see 'how' they fix it

It will if it requires a big change to the hardware.

FGX-351 · 15-07-2010, 10:46 AM

Theyre releasing a bumper that earths the Antenna.
I think they retail for $49 from apple.
That's the only fix i've herd about so far but no doubt they'll be working on other fixes though.

ch33z1l · 15-07-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa

Theyre releasing a bumper that earths the Antenna.

Using a case is also meant to improve signal quality.

ch33z1l · 15-07-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RG

It's well worth it though, I've gone from 5 pages of apps that was bloody cluttered to one page of folders. This is how it should have been right from the start. My only complaint with the folders is that you can only fit 12 apps per folder. Makes it hard if you have a lot of the one sort of app, games for example.

You can categorise it down further into casino, shooter, cards, etc.

vztrt · 15-07-2010, 07:43 PM

http://www.theage.com.au/digital-lif...ml?autostart=1

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Battered Apple stops dodging iPhone 4 issues
ASHER MOSES
July 15, 2010 - 4:30PM

In an unprecedented move for the company, Apple has called a surprise iPhone 4 press conference for Friday in the US where it is expected to address a serious design flaw in the device.

Despite selling 1.7 million iPhone 4 units in the first three days after its US launch, Apple has taken a beating over the past few weeks over antenna problems that cause calls to drop out when the phone is held in a certain way.

Apple's share price has taken a hit and many are calling for a recall after tests against similar devices confirmed that the problem was a significant "design flaw".

At the Friday event, which for Australians will occur at 3am on Saturday, Apple is expected to offer either replacement phones or free "bumpers" that wrap around the device and prevent the antenna problems from occurring.

Anthony Agius, founder of the MacTalk website, said the move to hold a snap press conference was "something I've never seen Apple do in the decade I've been watching them".

Apple often refuses to acknowledge failings in its products and the iPhone 4 is no exception. Its chief executive, Steve Jobs, initially said iPhone 4 owners who were experiencing problems were simply holding the phone wrongly.

Apple later blamed the issue on a software bug, saying it was "stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong".

But tech pundits weren't buying that explanation and independent testing by Consumer Reports revealed that the reception problems were the result of a hardware design flaw. It said it wouldn't recommend the device until the signal problem was fixed.

Analysts say Apple has created a public relations headache for itself by appearing to dismiss or ignore the problem, allowing a minor issue to be turned into headline news. The company has been sued by several consumers over the matter.

Most analysts believe a full recall is unlikely but Ireland's biggest bookmaker, Paddy Power, which has been taking bets on whether Apple would issue a recall, said "if the current betting trends are to be believed, it now seems certain that a recall is in the cards".

Bernstein Research analyst Toni Sacconaghi issued a report this week saying that, while a full product recall would be unlikely, if it went ahead it would end up costing Apple a whopping $US1.5 billion.

"Apple's image - and potentially iPhone sales - could be compromised if Apple does not explicitly - and constructively - address the issue of what it believes is wrong with the phone and how it will address it," Sacconaghi said in the statement.

Apple appears to be already quietly offering replacement phones to some customers who have complained, Gizmodo reported. Readers of the popular blog have said the replacement units appear to fix the problem.

The iPhone 4 is expected to be launched in Australia within the next two weeks. It is not clear if Friday's announcement will delay the release.

- with Reuters

Source: smh.com.au