North Korea conducts nuclear test - Page 6

MO · 13-10-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by splatters

you know there is a reason nukes are concidered a paradox as far as wepons go,

EX: country A fires a nuke at country B, country B fires in retaliation at country A, the nukes pass each other on the way and BAMM everybody is dead,

They are a system designed to stop warfare not start it, anyone running a country no matter how much they resemble minni ME will be able to work this out

As far as I'm aware the US does'nt need to fire in retaliation..they have systems in place which will negate any missiles before they reach their target.

splatters · 13-10-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MO

As far as I'm aware the US does'nt need to fire in retaliation..they have systems in place which will negate any missiles before they reach their target.

Nope starwars dosnt work and anyhow the dirty nutron bomb is more of a problem then an ICBM, anyhow i wouldnt want to be deployed to NK they have some pritty serious numbers and the hardware to back it up, going there would have some major fatalities unlike the T78 era tanks of iraq and the Republican troops,

MO · 13-10-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by splatters

Nope starwars dosnt work and anyhow the dirty nutron bomb is more of a problem then an ICBM, anyhow i wouldnt want to be deployed to NK they have some pritty serious numbers and the hardware to back it up, going there would have some major fatalities unlike the T78 era tanks of iraq and the Republican troops,

Who said anything about starwars...think outside the square.

No one except for occupation forces would be deployed to NK.After they were neutralised.

They are a nation that is starving..think about a seige of the era of the Knights etc.

Outbackjack · 13-10-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by splatters

Nope starwars dosnt work and anyhow the dirty nutron bomb is more of a problem then an ICBM,

The last "star wars" test was a success.

gtfpv · 13-10-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MO

Who said anything about starwars...think outside the square.

No one except for occupation forces would be deployed to NK.After they were neutralised.

They are a nation that is starving..think about a seige of the era of the Knights etc.

OK this is getting freaky . sounds like i've missed out on certain secrets in my 37 years . but then again i've always been one of the last of my crowd , to find out secrets.

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toastyanana · 13-10-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieoter

North Korea is already has heavy economic sanctions against it. Thats why they are starving. They developed the bomb for the same reason as France (To gain more influence)

In my opinion it don't care that NK has "the bomb" they havn't done anything agressive and know they will be beaten in a war. Look at it from their POV they are on the list of "rogue nations" which included Afghanistan and Iraq and what happened to both those countries? They got invaded despite it being Illegal under international law. So they developed the bomb as a deterant to being invaded. NK has not invaded or started a war unlike the US, UK, Australia, Israel etc in some time.

Id like to see food and economic aid being sent to NK in exchange for the destuction of the Atomic weapon program and return of UN inspectors to the atomic power plants.

You would like to see aid sent to NK well if you heard the press conference from Alexander Downer you would realise we are continuing with our Aid (personally lets help our homeless etc first) NK have threatened if sanctions take place they will declare it as a act of war and start retallitory strikes now they are only just developing the bomb but the aim to develop it to be able to strike anywhere on this planet of ours that includes Aust as far as us invading any country i think you need to check your facts we are part of a multinational force sanctioned by the UN Yes the US does seem to play world police but someone has to have the balls to do it if they dont well lets all go out and buy big blocks to put in our cars because we wont have much time to worry about fuel prices and the like anyway thats my 2 cents worth and what would i know only spent the last 20 years fighting for our rights so you can enjoy your life
If you would like to take this further just pm me and i will gladly give you some facts that may shock you
mind you they could do wonders for our uranium industry (jokes)

MO · 13-10-2006, 09:51 PM

toastyanana...simmer sport remember the Secrets Act.

MO · 13-10-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

OK this is getting freaky . sounds like i've missed out on certain secrets in my 37 years . but then again i've always been one of the last of my crowd , to find out secrets.

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Secrets..there's no secrets in this world.

Sourbastard · 13-10-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MO

Who said anything about starwars...think outside the square.

Patriot system and derivatives are ok, aslong as you are situated right next to the target zone and can intercept properly.

There are supposed to be air to air systems as well, but like anything they need to be deployed in an exacting manner, and if you are in position in time, its mostly luck.

Intercepting while the weapons are already ballistic is quite difficult.

Much easier to intercept in the first few moments after launch.

toastyanana · 13-10-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MO

toastyanana...simmer sport remember the Secrets Act.

That was simmer lol evreything mentioned there is unclass and can all be found in the media

Outbackjack · 13-10-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sourbastard

Intercepting while the weapons are already ballistic is quite difficult.

Much easier to intercept in the first few moments after launch.

This is still true, but becoming more and more "untrue" Does that make sence???

MO · 13-10-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by toastyanana

That was simmer lol evreything mentioned there is unclass and can all be found in the media

OK I'll bite which arm and branch did you serve in?

Psycho Chicken · 14-10-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sourbastard

Patriot system and derivatives are ok, aslong as you are situated right next to the target zone and can intercept properly.

I'm sure there's more than a few 688 class subs at missle depth in the sea of Japan.

Sure naval delivered SAMs aren't the best thing out there, but I don't think a NK ICBM is that flash either.

MO · 14-10-2006, 10:33 AM

Seems NK may have been running a bluff?

USA and Japan have'nt detected any radiation from the site according to news on Aunty.

Psycho Chicken · 14-10-2006, 10:46 AM

I keep hearing that the seismic waves and the claimed yield don't match up. Apparently it would of been very easy to do with conventional explosives. The first weapons are usually quite high because there's a bit of science getting the right mass for a low yield. Trinity was 20 kilotons, India's first bomb was 12. Everyone but North Korea are saying it's sub 8.

I'm guessing it's either conventional or it didn't go off properly.

rodderz · 14-10-2006, 04:02 PM

Lucky they havent gone as big as the Sedan Nuclear test, this one was done in 1962 near Area 51 and was 104 kilotonnes, one of the biggest bombs ever detonated

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedan_%28nuclear_test%29

MO · 14-10-2006, 08:22 PM

OK, once again it seems I'm wrong, tonight on Aunty TV news their saying that there was radiation detected.

I give up!!

Mind you there was a 12 hour gap from radio to tv.

XR Martin · 14-10-2006, 08:33 PM

According to Japan, no abnormal radiation was detected.

stitty · 15-10-2006, 12:54 AM

Has anyone heard of the supposed "doomsday" bomb the yanks were rumoured to have/had back in the 70's? (It is actually referred to in the 1976 guiness book of records as a sub paragraph under "largest weapon" or similiar.) It is supposed to be buried somewhere and could be as large as 500Mt (eff'n huge). the theory apparently was to use it as a last resort in a war as an equalliser and to force all life to go deep underground, or be dead. They could detinate it anywhere with the same global results.
Probably just cold war trash talking...
There you all go, some useless trivia for the day!

MITCHAY · 15-10-2006, 01:09 AM

Apparently N.Korea has threatened retaliatory action against sanctions

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...0/s1762739.htm

Fun times ahead!

metalmania · 15-10-2006, 01:23 AM

to the world powers it is all a game of chess, it has been happening for thousands of years. one empire rises , another falls ,although the consequences are more serious today. don't believe for a minute that the western way of life will go on indefinately

red_hotxr6 · 15-10-2006, 08:13 AM

America may have the most nuclear weapons, the biggest nuclear weapons, but i think i feel alot safer with them having them than N.korea. Here is a country that has only just grasped the concept of this dangerous material and they want to threaten to use it.Now where in god,s name is the common sense in that.Is this the act of a responsible country. A lot of people have accused the U.S.A of not using enough diplomacy when it came to Iraq, oh and please note they didnt use their nuclear weapons/bombs,but N.k who just managed to grasp the fundamentals of using nuclear materials wants to use it as a threat. Yeah right.

MO · 15-10-2006, 08:48 PM

NK is a Stalinist totalitarian regime.

Think about what happened in Stalinist Russia and multiply by 10 and that is what NK is.

Nk tell you to have sex twice a month no more no less.

They are because of this regime a very backward country.

Unlike Cuba which although communist is a softer Marxist/Leninist regime.

This current flap will either affirm or be the downfall of NK,if it is the downfall it will be a slow process as the population is so indoctrinated and scared.

As for the doomsday bomb...500mt..what the hell is capable of carrying that..methinks the size is wrong.

Outbackjack · 15-10-2006, 11:35 PM

NK has backed herself into a corner. It is now either fight and go down, or give in to sanctions and loose face. I personally believe that the US would be happy for NK to take some pot shots. Then there is a chance that we could see a united Korea, under a prosperous democracy. I think that even China would prefer a stable wealthy neighbour that what they have now.

ScoopED · 15-10-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stitty

Has anyone heard of the supposed "doomsday" bomb the yanks were rumoured to have/had back in the 70's? (It is actually referred to in the 1976 guiness book of records as a sub paragraph under "largest weapon" or similiar.) It is supposed to be buried somewhere and could be as large as 500Mt (eff'n huge). the theory apparently was to use it as a last resort in a war as an equalliser and to force all life to go deep underground, or be dead. They could detinate it anywhere with the same global results.
Probably just cold war trash talking...
There you all go, some useless trivia for the day!

Hydrogen Bomb.... And 500Mt is definatly possible with a bomb of this type.

XR Martin · 16-10-2006, 12:00 AM

In theory you can make a hydrogen bomb as big as you want. With enough resources, you could build one as big as Uluru, and vapourise everything.

T_Terror · 16-10-2006, 12:02 AM

I take it you watched that interview with that US ex-prisnoner of war

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Originally Posted by MO

NK is a Stalinist totalitarian regime.

Think about what happened in Stalinist Russia and multiply by 10 and that is what NK is.

Nk tell you to have sex twice a month no more no less.

They are because of this regime a very backward country.

Unlike Cuba which although communist is a softer Marxist/Leninist regime.

This current flap will either affirm or be the downfall of NK,if it is the downfall it will be a slow process as the population is so indoctrinated and scared.

As for the doomsday bomb...500mt..what the hell is capable of carrying that..methinks the size is wrong.

**Stav** · 16-10-2006, 06:53 AM

All of these guys are mates.We are the target.In times of war we get screwed ..thats all. Now it looks like this lot are going to chase conscription.

XA Coupsta · 16-10-2006, 11:46 AM

Ok - bit of thread mining here (saves making a new thread).

Earthquake today in Hawaii.

Reckon the underground detonation of Kimmy's little bomb can be linked to this earthquake/seismological event?!?!?!!

MO · 16-10-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by XA Coupsta

Ok - bit of thread mining here (saves making a new thread).

Earthquake today in Hawaii.

Reckon the underground detonation of Kimmy's little bomb can be linked to this earthquake/seismological event?!?!?!!

NO, I don't think so it was on the western side not the eastern!