The letdown of iPhone 5 - Page 6

irish2 · 11-10-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesR

how can you compare processing power and drive speeds from computers that are 7 years apart?

we had an EA wagon that was a 4lt and 4sp auto, that doesnt mean its the same as a BF with a 4lt and 4sp auto.... "oh but the specs are the same!!11!!"

im an "Apple fanboi" because everything they make is easy to use and works well.
my refurbished Macbook has lasted me over 3 years, and i have never had to reformat. i even upgraded the HDD from a 120gb to a 320gb, just by copying the whole drive on the the new drive then plugged it in. it fired up and worked as if nothing had changed, except i had 200gb free. do that with a PC! only issue with it is the dvd drive doesnt work, npt that i ever use it though.
i have an original iPod Shuffle that works perfectly, except that the headphone jack is a bit worn out.
my 4th Gen 20gb iPod still works flawlessly, as does my 80gb classic. then i have the 2gb shuffle and an iPhone 4.

Why can we not compare things 7 years apart? In simple terms, the car analogy is silly. Development of motor vehicles moves nowhere near as quickly as IT does. The simple fact is apples products have never been market leaders in speed or features. Oh and do you think 1.2ghz from 2003 is slower than 1ghz from 2010?

In reference to your Macbook, my 5 year old PC that is unformatted, and unchanged since day one, still works as good as day one. Investing in a decent virus software keeps things in good order. It would also still keep pace with many apple computers with its' old school 3ghz single core processor, 2gig RAM, 512meg vid card, and 200gig HDD. All bought for the princely sum of $1800 in 2006. The equivelent Mac at the time was almost $5k

JamesR · 11-10-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by irish2

Why can we not compare things 7 years apart? In simple terms, the car analogy is silly. Development of motor vehicles moves nowhere near as quickly as IT does. The simple fact is apples products have never been market leaders in speed or features. Oh and do you think 1.2ghz from 2003 is slower than 1ghz from 2010?

well there you said it yourself. its all in the development.
clock speeds arnt everything.

XR6newbie · 11-10-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Not enough for me to upgrade from my iPhone 4

Same here!

**cs123** · 11-10-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by irish2

Why can we not compare things 7 years apart? In simple terms, the car analogy is silly. Development of motor vehicles moves nowhere near as quickly as IT does. The simple fact is apples products have never been market leaders in speed or features. Oh and do you think 1.2ghz from 2003 is slower than 1ghz from 2010?

In reference to your Macbook, my 5 year old PC that is unformatted, and unchanged since day one, still works as good as day one. Investing in a decent virus software keeps things in good order. It would also still keep pace with many apple computers with its' old school 3ghz single core processor, 2gig RAM, 512meg vid card, and 200gig HDD. All bought for the princely sum of $1800 in 2006. The equivelent Mac at the time was almost $5k

I bought a mac book about 5 years ago. It cost nowhere near $5K. Pretty sure it was under $2K. It wasn't much more than wintel laptops. It didn't have a 200GB drive but the other specs were the same.

Apple is pretty famous for their design and innovation. If you cannot understand what Jobs and Apple have done for the IT and Telecommunications industry then nothing I say will make a difference. Their machines are beautiful, they feel nice to use. They perform very well. I am more than happy to own them and I have very high standards.

I won't get into a discussion about how well your 5 year old untouched machine runs. If you're happy with Wintel all power to you. If you like to develop on Android, great.

irish2 · 11-10-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

I bought a mac book about 5 years ago. It cost nowhere near $5K. Pretty sure it was under $2K. It wasn't much more than wintel laptops. It didn't have a 200GB drive but the other specs were the same.

Apple is pretty famous for their design and innovation. If you cannot understand what Jobs and Apple have done for the IT and Telecommunications industry then nothing I say will make a difference. Their machines are beautiful, they feel nice to use. They perform very well. I am more than happy to own them and I have very high standards.

I won't get into a discussion about how well your 5 year old untouched machine runs. If you're happy with Wintel all power to you. If you like to develop on Android, great.

I am not an android user, and I am not biased towards windows. I just know from one stage in my life when I was a pretty serious online gamer that apple products didn't cut it. The most annoying thing was the single mouse button, like I'm too stupid to operate two.

irish2 · 11-10-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesR

well there you said it yourself. its all in the development.
clock speeds arnt everything.

Yes but when compared to other modern tablet computers the iPad is also left behind. It was just an interesting comparison because people think apple invented the smart phone, apple invented the tablet computer, apple invented mp3 players, apple invented touch screens. When you look at the early iterations of the iPhone, and the first iPad they are extremely limited.

CODSASR · 11-10-2011, 07:44 PM

Great new apple product

http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-...with-no,14299/

My poor XF · 11-10-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by irish2

Yes but when compared to other modern tablet computers the iPad is also left behind. It was just an interesting comparison because people think apple invented the smart phone, apple invented the tablet computer, apple invented mp3 players, apple invented touch screens. When you look at the early iterations of the iPhone, and the first iPad they are extremely limited.

If somethinks any of that then their an idiot! And deserve any criticism.

OT My first mp3 player was a 128mb creative, then a huge 5gb iriver (which I got because I didnt want an iPod) and now my 3GS.

**cs123** · 11-10-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by irish2

I am not an android user, and I am not biased towards windows. I just know from one stage in my life when I was a pretty serious online gamer that apple products didn't cut it. The most annoying thing was the single mouse button, like I'm too stupid to operate two.

Apples were never sold as a gaming platform. That being said my MBP runs games OK if I get that urge.

The mighty mouse was released in 2005 and was a 4 button mouse. The might mouse also had a track ball instead of a wheel that would allow you to scroll up and down and left and right. You could also plug in any USB mouse and use that. On the laptops you could use multi "buttons" too on the track pad. The criticism would have be valid in 2004, not since.

Back in 2007 PC World did a test of Windows Vista to find the best (fastest) machine to run Vista. Guess what won?? that's right a MPB was the best Windows machine on the market.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/13664...s_of_2007.html

hamoudy10 · 11-10-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CODSASR

Great new apple product

http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-...with-no,14299/

Worst idea ever.

GreenR · 11-10-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CODSASR

Great new apple product

http://www.theonion.com/video/apple-...with-no,14299/

Looking for a letter on a keyboard and then pressing it with your finger is too complicated. At Apple we have made it simple by having to scroll through all letters of the alphabet until you get to the desired letter, then click, then scroll again to the actual correct type of letter, then click. Then repeat the whole process for the next letter.

Idiots.

**cs123** · 11-10-2011, 10:11 PM

I'm praying that you guys realise The Onion is a satire web site.

GreenR · 11-10-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

I'm praying that you guys realise The Onion is a satire web site.

Oh. haha did not know that.

My poor XF · 11-10-2011, 10:18 PM

Hahaha that's hilarious!

Can't believe some thought it was genuine.

GreenR · 11-10-2011, 10:19 PM

Guilty

hamoudy10 · 11-10-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

I'm praying that you guys realise The Onion is a satire web site.

hahahahaha guilty as well! But honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. Apple is no stranger to creating niche's in the market. And the fanbois would love it!

My poor XF · 11-10-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hamoudy10

hahahahaha guilty as well! But honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. Apple is no stranger to creating niche's in the market. And the fanbois would love it!

LOL i think thats a bit too niche, even for apple.

HVAC PRO · 11-10-2011, 10:30 PM

that is pretty funny... but for people interested here are some links to some good tech sites first one is a link to a group of sites that cover all brands of smartphones android central do some good video reviews too which is good when your trying to choose from the gazzillion different android handsets available these days.
http://www.smartphoneexperts.com/communities
http://www.engadget.com/
http://www.bgr.com/
http://www.cnet.com.au/
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/

HVAC PRO · 11-10-2011, 10:41 PM

And if your a real phone geek like me ya mite like http://www.xda-developers.com/ good place to start if your going to start playing with your phone e.g flashing custom roms.

TheSneakiness · 12-10-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fpv223

And if your a real phone geek like me ya mite like http://www.xda-developers.com/ good place to start if your going to start playing with your phone e.g flashing custom roms.

Please tell me you have the HTC Desire HD and have successfully rooted it?

HVAC PRO · 12-10-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Please tell me you have the HTC Desire HD and have successfully rooted it?

there is a one click root out there visionary or something don't use that messes with registry files and yeah not good, have a look at this see how ya go
http://androidadvices.com/how-to-roo...hd-–-tutorial/

TheSneakiness · 12-10-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fpv223

there is a one click root out there visionary or something don't use that messes with registry files and yeah not good, have a look at this see how ya go
http://androidadvices.com/how-to-roo...hd-–-tutorial/

Trust me, it doesn't work on Gingerbread version. I have a text file at home that details what I have to do, just don't trust myself to do it unless I know of someone who has on that phone.

irish2 · 12-10-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by My poor XF

If somethinks any of that then their an idiot! And deserve any criticism.

What part of my statement is wrong? You label me an idiot, yet offer no debate at all. Also it's they're.

flappist · 12-10-2011, 09:49 PM

Keep it civil guys

My poor XF · 12-10-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by irish2

What part of my statement is wrong? You label me an idiot, yet offer no debate at all. Also it's they're.

Mate, I was agreeing with you! No part of what you said was wrong. If some people think that apple created the mp3 player etc etc then they're an idiot!

My apologies.

Bud Bud · 13-10-2011, 10:22 AM

Umm well..... anyway got up this morning to down load the ios 5 software into my itunes and i4 and while it did take some time, it seems to be very worth it so. If the i4 s ends up anything like my i4 is now then for apple users at least, it is a very sizable step forward that I have found after playing with my iphone 4 this morning so far.

Simple things like accessing the camera immediately even though your iphone is locked (and remains locked) is fantastic. You never know when you need a camera quickly before the moment has passed. I have had this happen to me plenty of times so far in the past. Also now the volume + button is also now a trigger button for the shutter as well. This is also cool because when I first got mine, I tried this function and thought that it is in the right place for a button, so I guess others must have thought the same!

The only bug I can see so far at the moment is that I can not edit my contacts list thought the contacts folder for some reason however I still can if I find it in my resents though. I had to respell one of my contacts this morning (fat fingers) and the only way I could do it was to call them and then quickly hang up (a function I am used to with the iphone anyway

) so that I could access them through resents only. I think that they will need to fix this pretty quickly though.

I think that people who get the new formatted i4s will love it well after the initial let down of apple not releasing the i5 wanes. This is a substantial upgrade if you are already using an i4 now imho, and kudos to apple for letting us all in on it.

Bud Bud

JamesR · 13-10-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Bud

Umm well..... anyway got up this morning to down load the ios 5 software into my itunes and i4 and while it did take some time, it seems to be very worth it so. If the i4 s ends up anything like my i4 is now then for apple users at least, it is a very sizable step forward that I have found after playing with my iphone 4 this morning so far.

Simple things like accessing the camera immediately even though your iphone is locked (and remains locked) is fantastic. You never know when you need a camera quickly before the moment has passed. I have had this happen to me plenty of times so far in the past. Also now the volume + button is also now a trigger button for the shutter as well. This is also cool because when I first got mine, I tried this function and thought that it is in the right place for a button, so I guess others must have thought the same!

The only bug I can see so far at the moment is that I can not edit my contacts list thought the contacts folder for some reason however I still can if I find it in my resents though. I had to respell one of my contacts this morning (fat fingers) and the only way I could do it was to call them and then quickly hang up (a function I am used to with the iphone anyway

) so that I could access them through resents only. I think that they will need to fix this pretty quickly though.

I think that people who get the new formatted i4s will love it well after the initial let down of apple not releasing the i5 wanes. This is a substantial upgrade if you are already using an i4 now imho, and kudos to apple for letting us all in on it.

Bud Bud

i think i might wait a few weeks, wait for the bugs to be ironed out before giving it a go.

irish2 · 13-10-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by My poor XF

Mate, I was agreeing with you! No part of what you said was wrong. If some people think that apple created the mp3 player etc etc then they're an idiot!

My apologies.

Sorry, misread your post.

Keepleft · 14-10-2011, 01:23 AM

New IOS for iPhone and Ipad. Females on FB raging about it, new features etc blah. (Told upgrade can take an hour etc).

http://www.apple.com/ios/

AC · 14-10-2011, 12:44 PM

Courier dropped my new 4S off at my door before 11am, no lines, no fanboys... WIN