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Old 15-04-2007, 10:27 PM   #151
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ok i think people have missed what actually happend in this photo.

the RED line is where the car went, all the other tire marks are from emergency vehicles getting petrol oil and god knows what other stuff on their tires.
hopefully this clears it up a bit.

if anyone wants any more info, DO NOT HESITATE to PM me.
Is this the Panton Hill/Kangaroo Ground Rd, just before the KG Fire station?

That road can be very dangerous, especially the corner at the bottom of that hill, off camber with a bump in the middle

Good on you mate for posting your experience too, no matter how long we have been driving or how good we are, we still have to be careful
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Old 15-04-2007, 10:29 PM   #152
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this wasn't me, nor someone i knew, but it was a p plater, in Alice Springs, apparently reported to be doing 'donuts' this is how the car ended up. he walked away from it
(sorry it's so small, camera photo)
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Not exactly an accident, but here's a pic of a burned out EL Monty, taken a couple of years ago.

Sad sight seeing any nice car, in this state.





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yeah i am almost 17 and this is a real eye opener, i see ppl driving down streets sideways in my town who are on there p's and it shows how dangourous it actually is, i thought it looked cool but now and a few other bad things, i have learnt that speeding is really bad thing, i hear of ppl crusing at 220 of the clock and its just plain stupid, these people must have a death wish.. i appreaciate people who have put there time into putting there accident photo's up on here, so that people my age and even older, even teach them a lesson on how dangourous speeding ect is. much appreacated, expecially XYSEDAN you have tought me a very valuable lesson, and this even might save an accident or two for everyone in the future.
Yeah, my P-plater mate brags about going 220 in his stock VZ dunnydore along the highway, with a car full of teenagers. What sort of trouble would he get into if a cop clocks him doing 220 on the freeway? I suppose he'll learn his lesson one day, the hard (painful) way, or the easy way (cops).
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yeah i am almost 17 and this is a real eye opener, i see ppl driving down streets sideways in my town who are on there p's and it shows how dangourous it actually is, i thought it looked cool but now and a few other bad things, i have learnt that speeding is really bad thing, i hear of ppl crusing at 220 of the clock and its just plain stupid, these people must have a death wish.. i appreaciate people who have put there time into putting there accident photo's up on here, so that people my age and even older, even teach them a lesson on how dangourous speeding ect is. much appreacated, expecially XYSEDAN you have tought me a very valuable lesson, and this even might save an accident or two for everyone in the future.
thanks mate, i just hope i can stop people doing the same VERY VERY stupid stuff. in victoria, let me know if you want to come to the crash site, i'll walk you through it.
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Is this the Panton Hill/Kangaroo Ground Rd, just before the KG Fire station?

That road can be very dangerous, especially the corner at the bottom of that hill, off camber with a bump in the middle

Good on you mate for posting your experience too, no matter how long we have been driving or how good we are, we still have to be careful
that's exactly where it is!
how the hell did you know?
you wouldnt happen to live round here would you?
and yes that corner is REALLY dangerous (as i learn't) that bump is what sent me off the road, its not big but its got vertical edges so it REALLY knocks the car around.
if you want, PM me, and i'll walk you through it, or if you have kids you think are safe, bring them down and i'll walk them through it.
also i was coming UP the hill, i came off the road, just on the top driveway of the Fire station.
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Yeah, my P-plater mate brags about going 220 in his stock VZ dunnydore along the highway, with a car full of teenagers. What sort of trouble would he get into if a cop clocks him doing 220 on the freeway? I suppose he'll learn his lesson one day, the hard (painful) way, or the easy way (cops).
I have mates that are exactly the same.

They bag me for driving like a granny, but at the end of the day, I still have no fines, and I'm likely not to injure/kill myself or others.
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Yeah, my P-plater mate brags about going 220 in his stock VZ dunnydore along the highway, with a car full of teenagers. What sort of trouble would he get into if a cop clocks him doing 220 on the freeway? I suppose he'll learn his lesson one day, the hard (painful) way, or the easy way (cops).
in vic, PM me, i'll change your kids mind about speeding. (hopefully)
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Not exactly an accident, but here's a pic of a burned out EL Monty, taken a couple of years ago.

Sad sight seeing any nice car, in this state.





That's not an EL Monty. That's an NF/NL Fairlane. The extra window behind the rear door is the giveaway. Looked like it had nice rims on it too.
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that's exactly where it is!
how the hell did you know?
you wouldnt happen to live round here would you?
and yes that corner is REALLY dangerous (as i learn't) that bump is what sent me off the road, its not big but its got vertical edges so it REALLY knocks the car around.
if you want, PM me, and i'll walk you through it, or if you have kids you think are safe, bring them down and i'll walk them through it.
also i was coming UP the hill, i came off the road, just on the top driveway of the Fire station.
I used to go up that way nearly every day a few years back, my ex missus lived up there and my old boss as well

It's a great driving road though!
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That's not an EL Monty. That's an NF/NL Fairlane. The extra window behind the rear door is the giveaway. Looked like it had nice rims on it too.
Thankyou for the correction. I'm not the best, when it comes to identifying Ford models.
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Old 15-04-2007, 11:24 PM   #162
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Well, I have no pics, it was in the early 80's when I was 13.

I was at boarding school, no we weren't rich, it's just that my dad died recently and we lived in a rural town and my mum wanted me to have more male influences.

Anyway, I was to catch a ride with friends of my sisters (Husband, wife and 2 kids) for the 500k travel home on the school holidays. Everything was cool, except for odd feelings I had about the trip, I later found out that my mum had them too for a couple of weeks before the trip, but that's another story (BTW, I'll take a polygraph on that subject)

Well, we were about to leave the city and the driver stopped for gas, checked the tyre pressures, which I thought was odd, but now being older, I realised was the correct thing to do. We were in a Fiat, in those days there were no rear seat belts, his 2 young sons (about 8 and 10) and myself were back there. We stopped at a place called Taupo which was around 2/3 the way and filled the car and they bought these things called throatease, they were kind of a chough drop that people also used to suck on as a lolly, anyway, I digress.... I'm just remembering it as it's burned into my memory. I woke at this stage and was offered the sweet, I declined and was about to go back to sleep, but before I did, I thought to myself "Oh this is when we're going to have the crash" and went back to sleep. I know what your asking, why didn't he get out of the car? ......I don't know, I was 13 and maybe I thought my imagination was getting away from me, I really don't know.

About 1/2 an hour later, I was sitting in the centre of the back seat (I was originally on the passengers side) looking out the windscreen, we were moving FAST!!! I was screaming "What's happening" I saw the headlights see a bank at the side of the road and that was it. I woke at the side of the road in the arms of the dad, I looked around and saw a truck driver taking off. I looked to my right and the young one had blood coming out his ears and thought this didn't look good. Then I noticed the car was crushed to almost a pancake, I asked if the car was turned off as I was afraid it would explode, which was strange as I knew nothing about cars then, but I had seen movies of cars blowing up and I think that's what made me think of it.

Next thing I did was woke up and saw my mum at the reception of the hospital, I was close to the front and could see it out my door, I was in a private room. At first my mum didn't recognise me, my face was that swollen, I tried to smile, and I think I kind of did because she gave me a mix of a smile, sadness and shock when she saw me and came into the room, tests showed that I had a fracture in my skull.

The driver had fallen asleep on a loooooong straight road, mashed the accelerator in the process and we struck black ice. The truck driver saw the whole accident and had called ahead for an ambulance. He relayed to the police that he saw the car flip end over end then barrel roll but was slightly off the ground, in mid air but would touch the ground every other roll. He said that there was a body flopping around with the car, outside the drivers side rear side window, but every time the car hit the road it was on the passengers side... the body was me.

The young guy who had the bloody ears now has brain damage and has to be cared for, for the rest of his life. The mum also had a fractured skull and the older boy was VERY beat up. The dad, believe it or not, got grazed knuckles. I feel really sorry for him, I bet he wished he died, but he's really not to blame, he was trying to be a good dad and get us there safely and ASAP.

Crashes aren't funny, really no matter how small. People who do find them amusing haven't experienced the real thing or have been VERY lucky. If you see an over powered sandstone XB, a gunmetal XA or a silver Trans Am being eagered on by some kid in a fast car that's not taking the bait, it's probably me. You see, I know some things they don't. I wish there were ways to make some people understand what weapons cars really are without putting them through a big crash. Pics (this isn't a dig at this post BTW) don't teach people the real hurt.

Sorry for rambling, this wasn't meant to be a downer on the thread.

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Old 16-04-2007, 06:50 AM   #163
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Heres a few pics my dad has sent me when he lived at Dubbo last year and freelanced for a few Sydney newspapers.



A VL meeting a tree at near 200kph








Not sure of the details on this BA







This WAS a new BA cop car, but back when the riots happened at Dubbo, it got torched.



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That's an amazing story yakcam. You must feel truely blessed to be alive.
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that's exactly where it is!
how the hell did you know?
you wouldnt happen to live round here would you?
and yes that corner is REALLY dangerous (as i learn't) that bump is what sent me off the road, its not big but its got vertical edges so it REALLY knocks the car around.
if you want, PM me, and i'll walk you through it, or if you have kids you think are safe, bring them down and i'll walk them through it.
also i was coming UP the hill, i came off the road, just on the top driveway of the Fire station.
I used to live in Eltham, not far from there, and have driven that road many times. Wonderful roads out there but the quality is just rubbish. Potholes and patches everywhere. I have come around there at 100 kph (legal speed) and driven over loose gravel across the road that the CFA trucks have brought out from their driveway. Heart in the mounth stuff. Its not a bit of road you want to travel quickly really.

There is no margin for error on those roads plus plenty of 4x4's....you and your mates are lucky s.o.b.'s
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I think I'd have heart failure if my car ever looked like some of those!!!

Poor cars :(
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ED vs Guardrail, guardrail went right through the backseat and punched out the door on the other side.
Yes thats where the door ended up.
Only me in the car, being an idiot.
Lost it around a roundabout, overcorrected twice, slid onto dirt then sideways into the guardrail, bent the guardrail 90 degrees across the road, and the car somehow pulled itself off of it? Still dont know how LOL
Parked the car and didnt know why the door was hard to open, walked around the back, saw the hole, and swore alot.
Few people pulled over behind me to check I was okay, few residents came out to see what the noise was and if I was alright.
Except for one bloke, obviously angry, jumped at me threatening to hit me, another lady who lived nearby pulled him back.
I got a few scratches from smashed glass, sore back and neck, and was stuck driving an automatic KJII laser for 4 weeks.

Realised how lucky I was while stripping the car, there was a tear in the fabric across the back of the drivers seat, and the rooflining was torn behind me as well.



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It'll be a year tomorrow since I came across a fatality that had just happened. I stopped to help but there was nothing that could be done.

This is what happens when a P plater in a WRX that has lost his license thinks it’s a good idea to take 3 of his mates for a spin. He took the corner way too fast and had a head on with a Kingswood. He ended up killing himself and 1 of his mates and 2 people in the car he had the head on with. He was appealing his loss of license in court after previously being booked for speeding.
Trust me, seeing dead people in such a horrific state in their vehicles will change the way you drive on the road.












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ED vs Guardrail, guardrail went right through the backseat and punched out the door on the other side.
Yes thats where the door ended up.
Only me in the car, being an idiot.
Lost it around a roundabout, overcorrected twice, slid onto dirt then sideways into the guardrail, bent the guardrail 90 degrees across the road, and the car somehow pulled itself off of it? Still dont know how LOL
Parked the car and didnt know why the door was hard to open, walked around the back, saw the hole, and swore alot.
Few people pulled over behind me to check I was okay, few residents came out to see what the noise was and if I was alright.
Except for one bloke, obviously angry, jumped at me threatening to hit me, another lady who lived nearby pulled him back.
I got a few scratches from smashed glass, sore back and neck, and was stuck driving an automatic KJII laser for 4 weeks.

Realised how lucky I was while stripping the car, there was a tear in the fabric across the back of the drivers seat, and the rooflining was torn behind me as well.
If that car is an ED SIX you would have to be virtually giving it full throttle through a roundabout to loose control as described. And then the road would probably need to be wet. Roundabouts are pretty safe, approached with even the slightest caution this just doesn't happen. I would be hard pressed to define this as an "accident". You are lucky you had the Laser to drive (and a license to drive it) and didn't have to catch the bus.
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Why does this thread exist?

I hope people realise that in most of the pics people have died, or might aswell be dead; why would you want to talk/see that.
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Yeah, lets just live in a land of make believe where nothing bad happens.

If just one person backs off from reading this thread, then it was worth it.
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Why does this thread exist?

I hope people realise that in most of the pics people have died, or might aswell be dead; why would you want to talk/see that.
Fascination? and it might just make a few people SLOW DOWN. I passed that red Kingswood on the back of a tilt tray. That was one BIG hit, apparently the elderly owner had had it for a very long time. I might just come down off my high horse and post a pic of my "one and only" if I can get my scanner to work.
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Why does this thread exist?

I hope people realise that in most of the pics people have died, or might aswell be dead; why would you want to talk/see that.
It may open peoples eyes and make them see that their actions on the road can change or even end their lives. Or do we just drive around thinking, “that’ll never happen to me”. No one has posted photos of bodies, and the images I posted are from the news. Images that most of Australia would have seen last year on Eastern Monday.

Sorry mate, but this stuff is close to home.
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Please, we are bombarded with info and pics of accidents all the time. You see an accident on the news these days and hardly blink unless its major.

Guess what, it changes nothing. For a second you will sit there and think about it, and then you wont remember it the next day (or hour).

Who said anything about a dream world, a dream world is were all the education, legislation and policing actually works.

They are called accidents for a reason. No one means for this to happen. OK a fair chunk of crashes happen through people being stupid (and thats debatable), but if you think a thread an AFF is going to change anything then your wrong.

Unfortunately, its only until you experience it first hand, or even second hand that it sinks in; and even then it doesn't completely change they way you act.

I appreciate those who think it will make a difference, but if thats the case then visit this site aswell and do some reading....http://www.tac.vic.gov.au/jsp/corpor...epage/home.jsp
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If that car is an ED SIX you would have to be virtually giving it full throttle through a roundabout to loose control as described. And then the road would probably need to be wet. Roundabouts are pretty safe, approached with even the slightest caution this just doesn't happen. I would be hard pressed to define this as an "accident". You are lucky you had the Laser to drive (and a license to drive it) and didn't have to catch the bus.

It amazes me that you have no idea of any of the situations in these accidents, and yet you are constantly here judging people.


I wrote a 1990 Magna off 4 years on a round about, approached at normal speed, braking through it, driving sanely, and the car slid sideways into the gutter and snapped the front axle (it went into a 30cm high gutter) it turned out that the round about had had a diesel spill on it earlier that day, and no one bothered to clean it up. I was lucky in that the drive wheel still worked, so I could get the car out of the way. While I was waiting for the tow-truck (about 20 mins) 4 more cars spun out, one did exactly what I did.


The cops investigated, and it was just one of those things, the fire dept's HAZMAT team was busy, and hadn't got around to it yet was what I was told.


Bottom line is, you don't know what you're talking about, so don't post mate...
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Anyway, I was to catch a ride with friends of my sisters (Husband, wife and 2 kids) for the 500k travel home on the school holidays. Everything was cool, except for odd feelings I had about the trip, I later found out that my mum had them too for a couple of weeks before the trip
i know what u mean mate, i had the same feeling the last time i saw my stepfather alive back in 2001. he hit the back of a ute at 80k on his yamaha at about 6am on a foggy morning. apparently the driver of the ute had pulled out 2 far and was across the highway. my stepfather had massive internal bleeding and died that night. to this day i still feel uneasy about driving past that spot and i have always been over cautious in foggy conditions.
also a couple of kms down from that spot in 2004 a girl who was walking beside the road was hit by the side mirror of a truck and almost exactly 2 years after her father laid down on the road in front of a p plater.
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If that car is an ED SIX you would have to be virtually giving it full throttle through a roundabout to loose control as described. And then the road would probably need to be wet. Roundabouts are pretty safe, approached with even the slightest caution this just doesn't happen. I would be hard pressed to define this as an "accident". You are lucky you had the Laser to drive (and a license to drive it) and didn't have to catch the bus.
You assume a hell of alot.

I already admitted to idiocy on my part, the roundabout in question is off camber, and reknowned for catching people unaware.
But I'm not going to make an excuse.

What do you want me to do?
I admit I did something stupid, I wiped out my car, and I learnt a lesson.
I appreciate your condescending lecture, but what exactly are you hoping to achieve?

Oh and for future reference, dictionary.com defines an accident as..
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1. an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty; mishap: automobile accidents.
2. Law. such a happening resulting in injury that is in no way the fault of the injured person for which compensation or indemnity is legally sought.
3. any event that happens unexpectedly, without a deliberate plan or cause.
4. chance; fortune; luck: I was there by accident.
5. a fortuitous circumstance, quality, or characteristic: an accident of birth.
6. Philosophy. any entity or event contingent upon the existence of something else.
7. Geology. a surface irregularity, usually on a small scale, the reason for which is not apparent.
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I used to live in Eltham, not far from there, and have driven that road many times. Wonderful roads out there but the quality is just rubbish. Potholes and patches everywhere. I have come around there at 100 kph (legal speed) and driven over loose gravel across the road that the CFA trucks have brought out from their driveway. Heart in the mounth stuff. Its not a bit of road you want to travel quickly really.

There is no margin for error on those roads plus plenty of 4x4's....you and your mates are lucky s.o.b.'s
legal speed limit there is now 80 has been like that for a few years now,
n yeah its a bit hairy...

yeah we are lucky, and we all know it.
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XYSEDAN, how old were you when you had the accident? Did you just decide to grab the keys to the car and take your mates out for a spin? More importantly didn't your parents know what you were up to, and what did they say when they found out? I know if I ever pulled a stunt like that they wouldn't let me forget it as long as I lived. Not that I would EVER attempt it.
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Old 16-04-2007, 07:34 PM   #180
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Here you go: The old Concer-tina.
Happened 14/11/92 in just before the Dipper at Mount Panorama. Head on with an RS 200 rally car. Speed not a factor, just lack of care and attention and failure to keep left, he was coming UP the track. I didn't see him in time to even brake. Both vehicles were traveling at or below 40Km/h. There was much LESS damage to the Esky as it was fully seam welded. So there you go, my one moment of stupidity in 22 years on the road, flame away, I deserve it!
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