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Yes, I believe they initially had the approach of trying to increase the chances of herd immunity however quickly realised that other countries weren't trying to stop the virus but allow the health systems to cope. Like you say, they are paying the price now. Population size and density plays a big role too which is why London and New York for e.g.are high.
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![]() ![]() .. and a comparison of the raw mortality rates - simply the percentage of reported cases that result in death ![]()
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BLUE OVAL INC.
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For a minute there I thought I was in a Vfacts thread Russ with all those graphs you've provided, couldn't find Holden or Ford in the top 10 on any of them..
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Oh.........Odd but intriguing analogy.. Maybe if you by some chance were right by that message we'd do well then to think of my point then on being a lot more self sufficient wherever possible like we used to be . Even Tassie would gain from that applying your definition... Eh !!!!!!
To my knowledge the Chinese Government has yet to take a proper world citizen leading role in this crisis other than acknowledgement of their own cases existing . They haven't and won't ever take most of the responsibility for the monumental mess they've caused like they should . Typical , all they're doing is deflecting and blaming and clouding the causes . i genuinely feel sorry for hundreds of millions of Chinese that need to have to run or buy from wet markets , live animal sales and such while high end Chinese become very rich . I wonder what Chairman Mao would think of modern Communist China if he was still around ?. China seems to be as much capitalist as any these days or at least at huge compromise to the Communist ideals they used to espouse in the Little Red Book . Last edited by roddy1960; 17-04-2020 at 01:55 PM. |
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Peter Car
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Trump is the only one with the balls to do it, cause he knows China needs the US more than they need China. Just look at the trade differences between them. The US has the upper hand in a big way. That's why he started the trade war, knowing it would hurt China more than it would the US. China ended up bending the knee too. |
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Killed multiculturalism stone dead, 40 - 50 years ago...
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Maybe because they are coming out of the winter/spring flu season whereas we are getting towards the colder seasons
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Great idea, then you could have spent the last 40-50 years deporting everyone back to their county of heritage and left it alone for the indigenous tribes to look after it, ban any outsiders from coming in. Doubt there is many cases of covid amongst the Sentinelese people. Problem solved.
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AU3 ute EL futura
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Previously I mentioned that I thought this thread had a decent signal to noise ratio and levels of respect. The marshall forum obviously isn't an automotive thread, it's guitar amplifiers. Their covid thread became the longest thread ever on that forum the other day, and obviously not on topic to boot. Read it if you dare...243 pages and counting...
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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I know it gets a bit willing at times especially when you have emotive topics like this but it kind of allows some to get things off their chest and is an outlet to put stuff out there. I know our moderators will be watching it all closely so that it doesn't get too willing and personal but robust discussion sometimes (within bounds of course) can be a help I think . Obviously it's the hottest of topics on forums other than ours . Last edited by roddy1960; 17-04-2020 at 03:21 PM. |
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AU3 ute EL futura
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Save me and people like me from the virus. Oh they don't do anything just whinge ? Then how do you explain the queues at kmart and bunnings, the hoards of dirt bike riders not getting busted atm ? and the armies of people not distancing in all sorts of places ? There is already an army of people not obeying the rules. Some are getting fined most the police can't get. Only this isn't like house and car theft, drink driving or whatever. It's a contagious disease. You only need a % of people willingly disobeying for it to get out of hand. If the government keeps p'ing people off that % will grow. But that's ok, if you get sick of having your head in the sand there are other places you can put it. I am astounded some of you are so ready to dismiss other people's circumstances (f all of you I'm alright), and that you think it is such an unreasonable imposition on the various governments to provide binding clarification on their directive. I have never suggested it be abandoned, I never suggested it had to be perfect. I suggested it be improved, but clearly from your position atop your soapboxes I am being unreasonable... |
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AU3 ute EL futura
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In victoria the media lit up and the government did something. Here in queensland the fines rate is almost as high, just as stupid but our media aren't saying anything so nothing is being done. I have heard they are even now complaining about people doing ore than one shop a week, but when you get to teh supermarket half the stuff is missing and lots more is limited purchase to 1 or 2 items HTF are you supposed to keep a family fed ?? But don't worry you can still get a haircut and take the kids to kmart... |
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Interesting article highlighted a few pages back from the last. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...__ffn_sectitle I won’t be able to pretend to be able to interpret all of that, but seems well in line with the results of the limited trials against Covid 19, interestingly the MSM articles seem to suggest its lack of effectiveness. |
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was listening to some expert that does modelling on statistics etc and he said that what went on in Wuhan modelled in the least possible way the death rate and infection rate would be at least three times whats reported
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AU3 ute EL futura
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But I guess no one has told you there was more than one migration into Australia pre Britain ? maybe no one has told you there were pygmies in the daintree until the 60's ? Afterall if the Aboriginies aren't the first people, just another wave of invaders, that kinda wrecks their guilt based political platforms doesn't it ? |
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Realistically with the borders remaining shut for an ongoing period of time, a drug like these anti virals could truely remove the virus from the community. |
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The message I’m getting from all this, is that Ford-driving Chinese pygmies who use Marshall amplifiers to enforce social distancing, are OK people.
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Not if they are imported Fords.
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“... that don’t align with his.” The use of the term ‘him’ is grammatically incorrect. ;-) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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We can all argue what we could have done or should be doing but I think for the time being we stay the course for a while yet.
For better or worse we are on this path we are now and despite some issues we are in a better position then a whole lot of countries. Some of that is luck due to being an island on the **** end of the world but not all of it is. The results are showing promise and last thing I would want to do is either lift the restrictions too early and certainly don't think there is justification for more. It's all a **** sandwich but I reckon our bread is much thicker than elsewhere. The bread basically doesn't exist in UK and US at all. There is a lot of legitimate criticism of the WHO and China, but a lot of it is just trying to shift the blame for lack of action. Particularly in the US. Australia obviously had enough info and cause for alarm to declare it a pandemic and start preparing ahead of the WHO so other leaders could have too. |
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