2018 Ranger Raptor - Page 61

Dr Smith · 20-11-2018, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Whisper is no, Ford NA will be focusing on its own market so probably no RHD Explorer. Pity...
Best hope is that next Gen Ranger has access to hybrids or PHEVs to balance against diesel sales.

I've got 2 years to go on our Trafic Crewvan and want to get back in an auto something...so hopefully your "best hope" is our reality.

And on the note of a Ranger 2.0L 4 cylinder vs the 3.2L 5 cyl...for anyone that has gone from a 5 to 4 cyl engine will know that the smoothness and all round better refinement is not to be underestimated. When you switch between the two a few times in the same day it becomes so noticeable and much more comfortable when driving for extended periods. It's also one reason I really enjoy our V6 diesel Territory which is smoother again..

**DFB FGXR6** · 27-11-2018, 06:04 PM

Today I had the opportunity to drive the Raptor. I will say from the beginning that dual cab pickups aren’t really my thing. They just don’t suit me needs as a working tool of trade or as a recreational / fun car. But after driving it I can totally understand why someone would absolutely love this thing.

The level of cabin refinement was hugely impressive and the seats exceptionally comfortable, as was ride quality. I could see this being a very easy car to do long distance touring in. I also really liked the steering wheel with shift paddles and the rather pointless red position indicator strip. The engine has unquestionably been a controversial tropic but, frankly it suits the character of the vehicle, is much more refined than the old 3.2 I5 and is toey enough when the foot goes down, the gearbox doing a great job of tapping into the engines reserve of torque. Look, its not a firecracker of an engine (although that is probably a skewed comment owing to the fact I had just jumped out of 10 speed Mustang GT) but it is NOT a deal breaker. You can feel the weight hiding under this vehicle though and those chucky tires make themselves felt through corners but this a fun and entertaining vehicle to drive, and as I said, I totally understand the appeal.

For anyone who has doubts about this car, go to your local dealer and take one for a drive. If you then still don’t like it fine, but from someone who doesn’t really like/need these type of vehicles, I couldn’t get the smile off my face.

XD 351 Ute · 28-11-2018, 06:53 PM

I got to sit in one today, loved it. Love the whole look. The interior is mega, loved the blue stitching, much more appealing than Wildtrak. Shocks look phat.
I don't want to tow a train, and expect she'd be a bit steady off the mark.
See what next year brings, I think they're a really good thing!

Ed

davenl5l · 03-12-2018, 09:54 AM

Drove to Melbourne from Adelaide and back last week saw 7 Ranger Raptors which is more than the total of new crapadores ive seen

BENT_8 · 03-12-2018, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by davenl5l

Drove to Melbourne from Adelaide and back last week saw 7 Ranger Raptors which is more than the total of new crapadores ive seen

Far out, must have been a club meet or something.

I haven't seen one in the wild yet, only the demo that Rebels still have collecting dust, dont even see it on test drives, it just sits in the same spot week after week.

prydey · 03-12-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Far out, must have been a club meet or something.

I haven't seen one in the wild yet, only the demo that Rebels still have collecting dust, dont even see it on test drives, it just sits in the same spot week after week.

Yet to see one myself as well. Plenty of people in normal rangers (and the like), who are clearly compensating for something

Vesper Martini · 03-12-2018, 12:01 PM

Plenty of normal Rangers around with Raptor grills too

Bossxr8 · 03-12-2018, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Yet to see one myself as well. Plenty of people in normal rangers (and the like), who are clearly compensating for something

They are getting out there. Sold something like 400 in the first month according to VFacts.

b0son · 03-12-2018, 01:00 PM

I've seen two.. they look far smaller in the flesh than they do in photos. But still way more imposing than a regular ranger.

BENT_8 · 03-12-2018, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They are getting out there. Sold something like 400 in the first month according to VFacts.

So they're listing them seperate to other 4x4 spec Ranger?

RANGEREST · 03-12-2018, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Yet to see one myself as well. Plenty of people in normal rangers (and the like), who are clearly compensating for something

Really?
What am I compensating for?
Other than 4x4ing through the middle of the country, or the high country, towing capacity(tradies trailer most days or caravan or ski boat on weekends), tool storage,(canopy) and still taking the kids to footy etc in reasonable comfort.

Smoke Pursuit · 03-12-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Yet to see one myself as well. Plenty of people in normal rangers (and the like), who are clearly compensating for something

Yeh yeh...

galaxy xr8 · 03-12-2018, 05:34 PM

I've seen a few out and about, they certainly catch your attention with their wide body look and tuff stance, awesome looking vehicles they are.

I envy those that have purchased one.

prydey · 03-12-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RANGEREST

Really?
What am I compensating for?
Other than 4x4ing through the middle of the country, or the high country, towing capacity(tradies trailer most days or caravan or ski boat on weekends), tool storage,(canopy) and still taking the kids to footy etc in reasonable comfort.

Lift kits, big flares, big mud tyres.... I bet a standard ranger will go to 99% of the places these modified ones will ever see.

You may be in the 1%...

Ben73 · 03-12-2018, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Lift kits, big flares, big mud tyres.... I bet a standard ranger will go to 99% of the places these modified ones will ever see.

You may be in the 1%...

Using that logic the Raptor is a waste of time and money. 99% of Raptor owners won't be jumping or driving 170 through the desert.

au2000 · 03-12-2018, 09:10 PM

Finally seen my first 2 raptors over the weekend, admittedly looked good on the road having said that I've also seen plenty of well done wild tracks also, out of curiosity I'd love to drive the 2.0 to see how it is. I can see the visual attraction it has, local dealer has it for sale for $80 grand..... For me personally as I don't need a duel cab I reckon I'd drop that onto a stang and keep the change.

Franco Cozzo · 01-01-2019, 12:08 PM

Probably not super relevant to the Ranger Raptor - but there is a review out of the USA on their specification Ranger:

Comes only with 2.3L Ecoboost and 10sp auto - 205KW.

He does talk about no Raptor for the USA.

Ben73 · 01-01-2019, 12:45 PM

Look at those 21st century tail lights on the American Ranger. How modern.
I'm going to assume new Australian Rangers have bed lights. I also want a window between the cab and tray. More utes need this.

XR Martin · 01-01-2019, 01:17 PM

Notice the rear brakes too ;)

jpd80 · 01-01-2019, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

Look at those 21st century tail lights on the American Ranger. How modern.
I'm going to assume new Australian Rangers have bed lights. I also want a window between the cab and tray. More utes need this.

There are clearly a lot of subtle changes that could be done to keep Ranger right up to date with the competition but something tells me USA Ranger was special case with the good changes to their Ranger

nstg8a · 01-01-2019, 03:12 PM

Doug is certainly impressed by the performance of the ecoboost...
If they made ecoboost an option for ranger here I think I’d get one. Diesel does nothing for me, but I love the look of the rangers.

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Gumboot · 01-01-2019, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Notice the rear brakes too ;)

Nice. Rear discs. About time on a standard ranger. We are in 2019.

Franco Cozzo · 01-01-2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Doug is certainly impressed by the performance of the ecoboost...
If they made ecoboost an option for ranger here I think I’d get one. Diesel does nothing for me, but I love the look of the rangers.

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Same here, done a lot of work on the BT50/Ranger with the 3.2L I5 and even before you chuck all the accessories on them they're slow as a wet week.

2.3L Ecoboost, 10sp auto, dual cab 4x2 would have me interested, otherwise I'm a fan of the American utes.

Franco Cozzo · 01-01-2019, 03:59 PM

I find it very interesting the stand out feature for the reviewer is its powertrain - in that they all thought it was going to be wimpy because everything else in that same category over there is 6 cylinders, but the Ecoboost Ranger has to be the fastest in its segment.

jpd80 · 01-01-2019, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Same here, done a lot of work on the BT50/Ranger with the 3.2L I5 and even before you chuck all the accessories on them they're slow as a wet week.

2.3L Ecoboost, 10sp auto, dual cab 4x2 would have me interested, otherwise I'm a fan of the American utes.

What's amusing is that the yanks are grizzling over some of the prices charged for mid-upper models
with some suggesting that a discounted 2.7 EB F150 SuperCab (more rear room) may be a much
better option....

The 2.3 EB in Ranger looks to have a lot of punch and go thanks to bottom end torque and the 10-speed
it's gonna open lots of skeptics' eyes wide.....

nstg8a · 01-01-2019, 05:44 PM

So, after doing some googling it appears that a 4x4 ranger is only 2-300kg heavier than an ecoboost mustang?. (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong there)

The us spec ranger has 40hp less than a mustang eb.

An eb powered raptor would have been a cracker. Then there's the fast growing aftermarket support for the eb internationally.

naddis01 · 01-01-2019, 05:59 PM

Closer to 500kg (with our diesel model) depending on spec. Would the petrol engine reduce the weight that much?

jpd80 · 01-01-2019, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Closer to 500kg (with our diesel model) depending on spec. Would the petrol engine reduce the weight that much?

Probably not as the 2.0 Panther Ecoblue diesel is already alloy block and alloy head.

XR Martin · 01-01-2019, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

So, after doing some googling it appears that a 4x4 ranger is only 2-300kg heavier than an ecoboost mustang?. (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong there)

The us spec ranger has 40hp less than a mustang eb.

An eb powered raptor would have been a cracker. Then there's the fast growing aftermarket support for the eb internationally.

Ranger Raptor is nearly 2.5t...

Ben73 · 01-01-2019, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Doug is certainly impressed by the performance of the ecoboost...
If they made ecoboost an option for ranger here I think I’d get one. Diesel does nothing for me, but I love the look of the rangers.

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0-96kmh in 6.9 seconds is pretty impressive. I'd be happy with 8-9 seconds in a 4x4 vehicle. I like V6 diesels, but this ecoboost seems pretty impressive.

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Originally Posted by Gumboot

Nice. Rear discs. About time on a standard ranger. We are in 2019.

Rear discs and rear springs sounds good to me. I like the idea of a ute that is a little smoother. I have no intention of carrying a tonne in the tray so I'd rather a smoother ride everyday .