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30-01-2022, 11:51 PM | #18271 | |||
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30-01-2022, 11:52 PM | #18272 | |||
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31-01-2022, 12:05 AM | #18273 | |||
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Also keep in mind that if they go down path of booster mandates and changes to the definition of fully vaccinated then they might get specific about what brands in what order constitute "fully vaccinated". Might say first 2 shots can be combination of A,B,C or D and booster must be B or C. Don't want to shoot yourself in the foot. Luckily they are fully prepared for you! https://www.health.gov.au/initiative...-claims-scheme https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au...-claims-scheme |
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31-01-2022, 12:06 AM | #18274 | |||
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I'm also going to catch up with a mate of mine who has just returned from overseas. An ex employee at one of the big 3, although not in their R&D department. Can't say too much in the public arena, he thinks he is being watched. He is unvaxed, I'm not going to jump to conclusions, but I want to know why. Surely its either going to be a yes or no based on ATAGI / TGA policy. Its either going to be an option but have to jump through hoops, or a hard "that is not an option at all".
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31-01-2022, 01:48 AM | #18275 | |||
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But who's to say after sitting down with your long term and trusted GP, after talking about your concerns, they give you a wink and say "we can do it just this once, but don't tell anyone". One never knows. |
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31-01-2022, 09:13 AM | #18276 | |||
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If we had a substantial portion of the population unvaxxed, hospitals wouldnt be coping. That would mean that my daughter would be managing her illness with ineffective painkillers instead of having the surgery she did last week. I'm fine with your 'freedoms' being trampled on for her sake, any day of the week. |
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31-01-2022, 09:24 AM | #18277 | ||
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Because the number of vaxxed vastly outnumber the unvaxxed. If you correct for the relative numbers of each, the vaxxed are 15 times less likely to be in hospital. The ones that are dying are the very old and in poor health. Why aren't the very old and in poor health that are unvaxxed dying? Because they already did.
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31-01-2022, 10:35 AM | #18278 | ||
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Isn't it nice to have a nice simple, no nonsense, Q & A day on this thread!
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31-01-2022, 11:02 AM | #18279 | ||
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NSW records 13,026 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9485 from 0.9339) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend line. VIC records 10,053 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9492 (from 0.9369) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend. No States set a new daily high. Here is the predictive trend graph for three States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.
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31-01-2022, 12:21 PM | #18281 | ||
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 30th 2022.
47,258 new cases for Australia and 86 deaths so the CMR is 0.145%. NZ recorded 140 cases and 0 deaths for a CMR of 0.319%. The UK recorded 62,399 cases and 95 deaths for a CMR of 0.945%. 192,028 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,127 deaths sees CMR at 1.201%. Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Global cases pass 375M; Europe passes 124M cases; France passes 19M cases; Egypt (2,210) – the 6th consecutive day); Belarus (2,387); Azerbaijan (4,943) – the previous high (4,451) on 13/12/20; Palestine (5,797); Bahrain (6,745) – the 6th consecutive day; Netherlands (75,164); Japan (82,159); and Russia (121,228) – the 10th consecutive day; ... all recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Iran moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.
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31-01-2022, 12:24 PM | #18282 | ||
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31-01-2022, 09:33 PM | #18283 | |||
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Also heard some pretty interesting accounts on how people have tried to game the system. Fake arms (yes it happens here too), paying the homeless to take the shots on their behalf (one Melb man was caught taking 60 shots. I guess there is some confidence its safe? ). The biggest attempt of a bribe she has heard was $15k, but she said it was very common for people to enter the booths and try to slip a few hundred bucks into the immunisers pockets! And by law, they have to call the police when that happens.
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31-01-2022, 11:41 PM | #18284 | ||
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A better source than the ABC, I am certain of that.
Your quotes from "The Factual", which appears to be an algorithm that trawls written articles over the internet, with margins of error that are accountable to...well...nobody..are irrelevant pertaining to live televison broadcasts from the likes of Al Jazeera....sorry not factual enough for me. Maybe you could give us the "score " for the ABC.....
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31-01-2022, 11:43 PM | #18285 | |||
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last week I didn't even know how to shpell immunerizer now I are one.
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31-01-2022, 11:58 PM | #18286 | ||||||
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Americans have a Bill Of Rights with explicit freedoms from govt interference in their lives. In Austraia we do not...so you can't really criticize US citizens for exercising their rights.
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01-02-2022, 12:47 AM | #18287 | |||
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Hard to when he wont cite his sources. The fact that you happily take him at face value while expecting me to provide evidence for my statements, says to me you've drunk the cool aid and there's little point trying to convince you.
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01-02-2022, 07:07 AM | #18288 | ||||
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Yea, red flags all over this one from mis/disinformation 101. Quote:
And this is from VAERS: "a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event" Also Tucker: "VARES has received a lot of criticism over the years, some of it founded. Some critics have argued for a long time that VARES undercounts vaccine injuries. A report submitted to the Department of Health and Human Services in 2010 concluded that "fewer than one percent of vaccine adverse events are reported" by the VARES system." He's basically just said this is misinformation, but he's put the spin on this 'undercount' being deliberate by the CDC. Unfortunately, the reality is... "VAERS is a passive surveillance system, meaning it relies on people sending in reports of their experiences after vaccination.... VAERS accepts reports from anyone, including patients, family members, healthcare providers and vaccine manufacturers." VAERS (Or "VARES" to Fox, apparently), is not a vaccine safety watchdog. It's a passive tool to the FDA, CDC, or manufacturers for finding patterns. There's also this: "Any health problem that happens after vaccination is considered an adverse event following immunization. An adverse event can be a true adverse reaction, also known as a side effect, that is related to the vaccine, or a coincidental event that happened following vaccination." VAERS also comes with this very important disclaimer: "While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases." So any death following vaccination can be reported, by anyone, to VAERS. You could walk out of the clinic and be hit by a bus and Fox News would warn the public on the dangerous side effects of the vaccine on your behalf. They would quote the knowingly less-than-statistical source of VAERS as 'statistics' and then use the unreliability of those non-statistics to blow that out of proportion by implying that these make up only 1% of the actual figure. That, to me, is not news worthy... So sure, Fox hasn't come right out and said 'we are anti-vax and you shouldn't get the vaccine', their producers are too smart to do that. But this is very clearly scaremongering designed for that same effect. Let's not kid ourselves of that. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/en...ers/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/en...cts/index.html https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html |
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01-02-2022, 10:06 AM | #18290 | ||
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I probably wouldn't listen too much to someone thinking the helicopters are following them
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01-02-2022, 11:40 AM | #18291 | |||
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Deleted. Sorry misread your post. Yes. I've known him for a while. He has worked on some interesting projects in the past. Will see what he has to say.
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NSW records 12,818 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9669 from 0.9485) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend line. VIC records 11,311 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9735 (from 0.9492) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend. No States set a new daily high. Here is the predictive trend graph for three States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. As it was the end of our week on Monday, here are the weekly case numbers with NSW having 20k more cases then Victoria last week although Victoria recorded 32,310 less cases than the previous week while NSW recorded 57,964 less.
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 31st 2022.
33,877 new cases for Australia and 42 deaths so the CMR is 0.145%. There was an adjustment of -29,482 cases to remove duplicates from last week. NZ recorded 130 cases and 1 death for a CMR of 0.323%. The UK didn’t report any data for a CMR of 0.945%. 408,910 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,956 deaths sees CMR at 1.198%. Other notable points: Global cases pass 377M; Europe passes 125M cases; Asia passes 100M cases; North America passes 89M cases; Africa passes 11M cases; USA passes 76M cases; Bhutan (206); San Marino (1,098)’ New Caledonia (1,843); Egypt (2,223) – the 7th consecutive day; Venezuela (2,646) on 301/; Libya (4,429) – the previous high (3,512) on 26/7/21; Paraguay (6,853); Palestine (7,784); Jordan (16,226); Japan (85,042) - the 6th consecutive day; and Russia (124,070) – the 11th consecutive day; ... all recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Afghanistan moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.
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We've obviously seen a rapid increase in the number of cases in Australia over the last month although numbers seem to be on the decline this last two weeks, so here is some data about hospitalisations and mortalities since Omicron became the prevalent infection.
The data is for each week from the 3rd December onward. That first week saw 10,764 cases and the 544 people in hospital represented 5% of cases although they were probably mostly Delta patients. Jump to this last week (ending 28/1) and the case numbers were 394,317 and there were 5,020 people in hospital or just 1.276% of cases and that percentage has been rising the last two weeks after dropping in between as shown in the charts below. Hospitalisation - Raw Numbers and % of Cases Likewise, the number of patients in ICU has also continued to climb from 159 in that first week to 514 now but the percentage of cases has fallen from 1.477% in week 1 to 0.131% this week – albeit a little higher than the last few weeks. ICU - Raw Numbers and % of Cases The number of deaths from those cases also continues to drop as a percentage. It was 0.372% in that first week and 0.140% in this last week (up on last week) although we do know that adjusted CMR is probably a more reliable gauge so it is included in that graph – both of which are climbing. .. and for completeness, the growth in case numbers for the same period.
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NSW records 11,807 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9581 from 0.9669) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend line. VIC records 14,553 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.0204 (from 0.9735) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend. The NT (1,122) set a new daily high (1/2). Here is the predictive trend graph for three States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.
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02-02-2022, 09:57 AM | #18297 | ||
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It seems Glenn Wheatley, never recovered from a Covid-19 infection over the Christmas period, he spent t a couple of weeks in intensive care but never recovered!
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Was at my GP'S surgery yesterday, I get in at 7am, just script for painkillers, I helped the young receptionist unscrew the chairs in the waiting room, folk were sitting on chairs marked " not to be used "
The 1.5 metre rule now applies, but saw my GP Adam Nuttall, he is one of only 4 WA doctors who treat Lyme disease, that how I met him, but he said a dude walked in, unmasked, coughing and sneezing and asking to see a doctor, a big sign supplied by the State Government is emblazoned across the front entry door. If you have these symptoms go to ED, do not enter clinic! He refused to go to the ED, as is instructed, Dr Nuttall is about the size of a front row footballer, he said he grabbed him by the collar and his belt, picked him up and threw him out!....too cool Last edited by slowsnake; 02-02-2022 at 10:12 AM. Reason: Add a bit |
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02-02-2022, 10:52 AM | #18300 | ||
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I agree, the girls at reception asked him politely to leave, gave him a mask and hand sanitiser, he told em to go to hell, I need a doctor, I'm sick!
If I was there I would of dragged him out, my GP has quite a few Lyme patients, all from Bali holidays, so not caught here, they are in a rotten state, and you get knobheads like that walking in? Where has common-sense gone?? |
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