Covid 19 -

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT June 29th 2022.

38,717 new cases for Australia and 58 deaths so the CMR is 0.122% (é).

NZ reported 8,062 cases and 12 deaths for a CMR of 0.0109% (-).

The UK reported 35,895 cases and 117 deaths for a CMR of 0.794% (ê).

182,268 new cases in the USA yesterday and 841 deaths sees CMR at 1.169 (ê).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 551M;
Europe passes 203M cases;
Asia passes 161M cases;

No countries...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Mexico moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I'm interested to see / hear what the vaccine injury rates are, and whether gov have been honoring the compensation schemes.

Having now spoken to mate that used to work for one of these vaccine makers, there is no way I'm going for any boosters. Two is it for me.

C'mon spit it out what has the good mate told you for you not wanting to take another booster shot?

[FTE217]

and a mate tells him intel after all this time.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Itsme

C'mon spit it out what has the good mate told you for you not wanting to take another booster shot?

Said to mate I wouldn't share details so I'm not. A lot of the issues and questionable conducts of big pharma, and more importantly, the (lack of) transparency on the testing of these particular vaccines have already been touched on here. Lets just say I wouldn't dismiss them all. And no, I'm not talking bill gates type conspiracy here, just very logical stuff.

The gist of it is, if you really have to take it, it was recommended that one keeps the dosage as far apart as possible. And if you are into strenuous activities, like high intensity sports, then just "be careful" how keen you are on boosters.

Don't take any of this as advice of any sorts.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

I find these charts and stuff fascinating.

Is there any charts like these on vaccine injuries and deaths?

Not suggesting that there are huge numbers but it would be interesting to see what the actual numbers are for a reference.

I heard on the news the other day that there has been a 40% increase in working aged people dying suddenly and unexpectedly many in their sleep or while playing sports.

Would be great to know the actual numbers or if there is anything in it.

[russellw]

There have been 11 deaths in Australia from COVID vaccination - 8 were thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) cases, 2 were linked to Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS) and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP). That's from just over 59 million does.

In terms of serious adverse effects the TGA reports that:

- Myocarditis is a known but very rare side effect of Pfizer and Moderna. It is usually temporary, with most people getting better within a few days. Myocarditis is reported in around 1-2 in every 100k people who receive Pfizer and 2-3 of those who receive Moderna. However, it is more common after the second dose in 12-17 year-old boys (12 per 100k Pfizer doses and 20 per 100k Moderna doses) and men under 30 (8 per 100k Pfizer doses and 18 per 100k Moderna doses).

In hard numbers that's 573 cases from ~40.8 million doses of Pfizer and 95 cases from about 4.4 million doses of Moderna. That's 0.0014% for Pfizer and 0.0022% for Moderna.

- Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (or TTS) is a very rare but serious side effect of AstraZeneca. TGA analysis shows it is reported in about 2 in every 100k vaccinated people following the first dose. The risk of TTS is much lower after the second dose (0.3 in every 100k vaccinated people).

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Said to mate I wouldn't share details so I'm not. A lot of the issues and questionable conducts of big pharma, and more importantly, the (lack of) transparency on the testing of these particular vaccines have already been touched on here. Lets just say I wouldn't dismiss them all. And no, I'm not talking bill gates type conspiracy here, just very logical stuff.

The gist of it is, if you really have to take it, it was recommended that one keeps the dosage as far apart as possible. And if you are into strenuous activities, like high intensity sports, then just "be careful" how keen you are on boosters.

Don't take any of this as advice of any sorts.

I think the problem is so much questionable info on the internet is for the gullible. Go sit down with your family GP and have a lengthy discussion as I'm sure all the facts will be put on the table for you.
Btw I had four covid shots with no adverse effects; hey lucky me.
Cheers

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Itsme

I think the problem is so much questionable info on the internet is for the gullible. Go sit down with your family GP and have a lengthy discussion as I'm sure all the facts will be put on the table for you.
Btw I had four covid shots with no adverse effects; hey lucky me.
Cheers

Wait...what....who got what from the internet?

Don't have any issues with listening to GPs or health authorities (most of them anyway), we have quite a few in the extended family, but the trial data they all rely on ultimately comes from the same source. Like I said, its not advice, and I don't really care what people decide to do. Only answering a question that was asked.

Glad to hear you haven't had any side effects. I haven't caught covid, but its still real.....I think.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Said to mate I wouldn't share details so I'm not. A lot of the issues and questionable conducts of big pharma, and more importantly, the (lack of) transparency on the testing of these particular vaccines have already been touched on here. Lets just say I wouldn't dismiss them all. And no, I'm not talking bill gates type conspiracy here, just very logical stuff.

The gist of it is, if you really have to take it, it was recommended that one keeps the dosage as far apart as possible. And if you are into strenuous activities, like high intensity sports, then just "be careful" how keen you are on boosters.

Don't take any of this as advice of any sorts.

So, what most people would do is say nothing at all, otherwise it just makes you look like a dick....!

School yard bs!

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

So, what most people would do is say nothing at all, otherwise it just makes you look like a dick....!

School yard bs!

I was asked, I gave the best answer I could, move on. Watch the video previously posted on testimonials from trial candidates, given in congress. That's a start. Its in my answer.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I was asked, I gave the best answer I could, move on. Watch the video previously posted on testimonials from trial candidates, given in congress. That's a start. Its in my answer.

No one asked for your original school yard statement in post 19018...

Having now spoken to mate that used to work for one of these vaccine makers, there is no way I'm going for any boosters. Two is it for me.

....again, I say BS!

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

No one asked for your original school yard statement in post 19018...



....again, I say BS!

You can say whatever you want, even when no one asked for it.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 10,930 cases in the current period for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0435 (1.0769) and the actual line remains just below the predictive trend line.



VIC records 8,057 cases in the current period for a 10 day average growth of 1.0202 (1.0717) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.



New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line is back below the predictive trend line.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT June 30th 2022.

36,804 new cases for Australia and 61 deaths so the CMR is 0.122% (-).

NZ reported 7,963 cases and 17 deaths for a CMR of 0.0110% (é).

The UK reported 22,908 cases and 85 deaths for a CMR of 0.794% (-).

139,557 new cases in the USA yesterday and 523 deaths sees CMR at 1.168 (ê).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 552M;
France passes 31M cases;

No countries...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Canada moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.

June averaged 612,877 cases and 1,358 deaths per day compared to May which averaged 623,974 cases and 1,597 deaths per day. That’s a 1.81% drop in cases and a 17.6% drop in deaths.

[arm79]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I haven't caught covid, but its still real.....I think.

It still exists.

My 6 year old nephew bought it home from school. In Perth of all places.

He complained of a really sore stomach, had a bit of a fever and just felt like crap. Started not long after he got up and progressively got worse. RAT test confirmed positive last Saturday 25/7 afternoon.

Next day fever was gone, felt heaps better and just had a bit of sore stomach. But he was back playing like normal by the afternoon.

Monday all symptoms gone and was back to his normal self. Very happy to have an extra week of school holidays he is.

Tested negative with a RAT Tuesday 28/7 evening. Confirmed negative following morning.

Sister and younger nephew tested positive a couple of days after the 25th. Sister has cleared up. Younger nephew received same symptoms which seems to be lingering a bit. Brother In-Law yet to catch it.

They credit the vaccine for the quick turnaround.

But here I am nearly 2 months after returning from Melbourne still dealing with a bl00dy chest infection. Coughing and full of green crap that just won't go away. Sounds like covid was the better option of the 2.

[T3rminator]

A couple of first hand accounts of vaccine injuries. Take note of the process they went through to try have it reported and acknowledged.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...ae6ff2db6c9514

For those who might not want to read past the first sentence, some relevant points:

• Dr Rado Faletic has slammed the Therapeutic Goods Administration’s (TGA) adverse event reporting process, saying the medicines regulator tasked with vaccine safety surveillance was “simply uninterested” in investigating his symptoms despite submitting multiple reports.
  
  
• Dr Faletic said doctors and specialists were unable to find anything obviously wrong with him. “You go to the hospital, they take your blood, do an echocardiogram or X-ray or MRI and don’t find anything,” he said. “They say, ‘Well you look fine, go home and rest.’”
  
  
• “I thought, enough time has passed, surely our government would have flagged any reactions of concern. I took it and all this stuff happened to me. It’s not a matter of it being a coincidence – it all happened within hours of the shots. Then I thought, surely the government would be interested in what’s happened to me? Nope.”
  
  
• Dr Faletic says it soon became clear to him that the TGA wasn’t interested. “I’ve done 50 rounds with the TGA on this,” he said. “They’ve said, ‘We can find no safety signals,’ which I think is disingenuous if not outright lying. In my small personal circle I know over a dozen people with different long vax problems, [ranging from] ongoing headaches, memory problems or brain fog to some people who were basically bedridden for months.”
  
  
• “Whilst we’ve all been damaged in the same way, our cluster of symptoms vary from person to person.”

Here's another one.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...de906149d8950f

Bek Bickerton, 27, received her first Pfizer vaccine in October and immediately began experiencing side effects, including changes to her menstrual cycle and fatigue, which continued to worsen.

By November she was hospitalised for a week with dizziness, blurred vision, tingling down her arms, extreme fatigue, low blood pressure and what was later diagnosed as postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS).

.............

Ms Bickerton said despite her suspected reaction, multiple GPs and specialists including two neurologists refused to write her an exemption. “None of them would link my symptoms to the vaccine,” she said.

“The first neurologist said he agreed the timing was suspicious but recommended the second shot. The second, I sent through some research articles from the US – he refused to read them and said I absolutely should get the shot.”

Ms Bickerton said she “didn’t expect to be believed or listened to” by doctors. “I knew as soon as I brought it up it would be written off, they would never entertain the thought that it could be linked to the vaccine,” she said.

I will add a couple of comments. If you think these "new" side effects weren't observed in trials, you'd be wrong. And if you think insiders haven't been "silenced" for trying to raise these concerns, you'd be wrong too.

A senate hearing on the health and human services in the US was held on 27th June. Have a listen, claims of CDC not being transparent with Covid data in general, and also that there are more injuries and deaths from vaccines than what has been officially acknowledged.

Makes no difference to me if anyone thinks any of this is bs. For the record, I'm not antivax, have had my 2 jabs, and have lost enough close family friends to Covid to know vaccines has its place. But based on the current selection of jabs that are available, happy to donate my boosters allocation to anyone that wants it.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

A couple of first hand accounts of vaccine injuries. Take note of the process they went through to try have it reported and acknowledged.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...ae6ff2db6c9514

For those who might not want to read past the first sentence, some relevant points:

Sounds like he's playing on his Dr title...even though he's not a medical Dr.

[arm79]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Here's another one.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...de906149d8950f

The interesting thing to note is that alot of, if not all, vaccine side effects are actual side effects during and post covid infection.

There was alot said early on by women about changes to their menstrual cycle after being vaccinated. Most complained about very heavy periods in the first and second cycle after vaccination.

I personally know of 3 women, all nurses, who caught Covid while at work, who ALL suffered from heavy periods in the first and/or second cycle after infection. One of them caught covid 3 times and in 2 of those times had heavy periods for BOTH cycles after infection.

We all know myocarditis post vaccination was one of the big ones widely discussed. But myocarditis is ALSO a side effect post covid infection.

Researchers analysed the records of healthcare organisations that cover a fifth of the US population. They found that, during the first 12 months of the pandemic, males aged 12 to 17 were most likely to develop myocarditis within three months of catching covid-19, at a rate of about 450 cases per million infections.

This compares with 67 cases of myocarditis per million males of the same age following their second dose of a Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine, according to figures from the US Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. Researchers added together cases after first and second doses to reach a total rate of 77 cases per million in this male age group triggered by vaccination, a sixth that seen after infection.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...n-vaccination/

The reason for this was discussed by a Professor of Cardiology at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital Sydney.

He said if a person suffered from myocarditis post vaccination then they would likely have died if they contracted covid.

Reason being that if they developed myocarditis as an immune response from the introduction of a small amount of covid triggers from the vaccine, then the same person would likely have died from a covid infection where the body is blasted by an uncontrolled and unchecked creation of the spike protein.

The vaccine prepared the immune system for the onslaught of a true covid infection, even if the vaccine did cause an uncomfortable situation for them, which would have saved their life.

I posted this twice, with a link to the article, and there was not one response to anything I wrote or the article. Not one vaccines suck, vaccines are trouble, etc, etc. I mean how can one refuse a respected doctor who is saying the vaccine is unfortunately giving you a small recoverable dose of "covid" in place of a death or near death experience should you actually contract covid.

So I have to ask, are vaccine side effects actually a side effect, given the possibility that side effects are the same possible side effects one my suffer post a true covid infection? Or are they more consequences of having an unknown spike protein in your system?

Should the next question be, is it preferable to have or live with these side effects/consequences than to die from the same side effects/consequences?

Something to ponder...

Originally Posted by GasoLane

Sounds like he's playing on his Dr title...even though he's not a medical Dr.

All the way through this that was one of things that sh*t me up the wall regularly. People trading on the Dr, even though they aren't medical doctors. I regularly saw "covid specialists" who were actually naturopaths, vets, zoologists, osteopaths, etc, etc. This bloke has degrees and maths and physics. He's a statistician.

Worst one when fu*kwit Steven Miles was loosely trading on his Dr title while he was Qld Health Minister before and during covid. A majority of people thought "great, we have a doctor as health minister during this crisis". They weren't happy to find out he was a Dr of Philosophy.

[T3rminator]

US to roll out Omicron booster shot, but it’s untested on humans
https://www.theage.com.au/world/nort...01-p5ay8e.html

Experts have expressed anguish that such a consequential decision has to be made based on very limited data. While it is possible that the change could provide a detectable increase in people’s protection against severe illness and perhaps also infection, but it is not certain.

[FairmontGS]

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 1st 2022.

32,566 new cases for Australia and 33 deaths so the CMR is 0.122% (-).

NZ reported 7,295 cases and 7 deaths for a CMR of 0.0109% (ê).

The UK reported 20,720 cases and 87 deaths for a CMR of 0.793% (ê).

124,208 new cases in the USA yesterday and 362 deaths sees CMR at 1.166 (ê).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 553M;
Europe passes 204M cases;
Mexico passes 6M cases;

No countries...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Spain moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 11,085 cases in the current period for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0235 (1.0435) and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.



VIC records 6,424 cases in the current period for a 10 day average growth of 0.9965 (1.0202) while the actual line drops below the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.



New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line is back below the predictive trend line.

[arm79]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Got me when he said his girlfriend was sleeping with the covid tester.

"The cotton bud wasn't the only thing he was shoving into her". Well done.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

I see in/on the news there's consideration from all states to reintroduce the mandatory wearing of masks. Apparently queensland is closest to doing this.

I wonder how this would go down with the general public?

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...10c24d7a113c59

[Citroënbender]

Who wouldn’t see it as potentially the “thin edge of the wedge”. Next stop being, “Oh, mask rules aren’t working so well as we hoped, your movement is going to be restricted again”.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

I see in/on the news there's consideration from all states to reintroduce the mandatory wearing of masks. Apparently queensland is closest to doing this.

I wonder how this would go down with the general public?

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...10c24d7a113c59

It wouldn't bother me. Due to my wife still having Chemo I haven't stopped wearing mine when in busy places.

Of course there will always be people like my Son in Qld, who wore a mask before it became compulsory there.

But as soon as the Gov said that masks have to be worn he refused to wear it as he wasn't going to have the Gov tell him what he can and can't do.

[arm79]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

I see in/on the news there's consideration from all states to reintroduce the mandatory wearing of masks. Apparently queensland is closest to doing this.

I wonder how this would go down with the general public?

Normally I'd say like a lead balloon full of sewage, but an informal poll in the Courier Mail shows is a 48/52 Yes/No result. Seems its a close race and people are willing.

Although a large part of the population have accused the Qld Government of reintroducing the covid scare to take attention away from this Coaldrake Report on integrity and accountability. Sounds ridiculous, but it is what they do.

But there is still a fair chunk of people here in Hervey Bay who wear masks. Most of them the older population, but you still see some young families out there.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Who wouldn’t see it as potentially the “thin edge of the wedge”. Next stop being, “Oh, mask rules aren’t working so well as we hoped, your movement is going to be restricted again”.

Maybe wearing of masks in some public areas but I doubt very much you would see lockdowns in this country again; the economy could not support it.

[FairmontGS]

I’ve never stopped wearing a mask in public places and transportation and still haven’t caught the plague. I’d say there is a link.

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I’ve never stopped wearing a mask in public places and transportation and still haven’t caught the plague. I’d say there is a link.

You’re certain you never had a mild, asymptomatic case?