Covid 19 -

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 17th 2022.

37,899 new cases for Australia and 30 deaths so the CMR is 0.122% (-).

NZ reported 6,482 cases and 22 deaths for a CMR of 0.0117% (-). The country also passes 1.5M cases for the pandemic.

The UK didn’t report yesterday for a CMR of 0.787% (-).

26,503 new cases in the USA yesterday and 54 deaths sees CMR at 1.149 (ê).

Other notable points: (weekend reporting)
France passes 33M cases;

No countries recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Montenegro moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while no countries drop below.

[CoupeKing]

[Work Horse]

Which other vaccines should I be worried about, we have only been doing this since the 1920's!

You should see the list of vaccinations if you wish to travel anywhere interesting!

Vaccine
Birth
Hepatitis B
2 months
HepB-DTPa_Hib_IPV
(hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type B, polio)
Pneumococcal vaccine
(13vPCV)
Rotavirus
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children: Meningococcal B
4 months
HepB-DTPa_Hib_IPV
(hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type B, polio)
Pneumococcal vaccine
(13vPCV)
Rotavirus
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children: Meningococcal B
6 months
HepB-DTPa_Hib_IPV
(hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough), Haemophilus influenzae type B, polio)
Rotavirus (third dose is dependent on the brand of vaccine used)
Pneumococcal vaccine
(13vPCV)for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in WA, NT, SA, Qld
and medically at-risk children
Influenza (annually): Children 6 months to less than 5 years; People 6 months and over with certain medical risk factors; and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people 6 months and over
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children with specified medical risk: Meningococcal B
12 months
Measles, mumps and rubella (MMR)
Meningococcal ACWY
Pneumococcal vaccine
(13vPCV)
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children: Meningococcal B
18 months
Haemophilus influenza type B (Hib)
Measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox (MMRV)
DTPa
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in WA, NT, SA, Qld: Hepatitis A – 1st dose
4 years
DTPa-IPV (Diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (whooping cough) and inactivated polio)
Children medically at-risk and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in NT, SA, WA, Qld – Pneumococcal vaccine (23vPPV): one dose 23vPPV at 4 years, then 1 dose 5 years later
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in WA, NT, SA, Qld: Hepatitis A – 2nd dose
10-13 years (School programs – depends on state or territory)
Human papilloma virus (HPV): usually 2 doses
DTPa
14-16 years (School programs)
Meningococcal ACWY
Pregnant women
Influenza (flu) – every year
DTPa (ideally 20-32 weeks)
50 years
Tetanus-containing booster vaccine
(unless a booster given in previous 10 years)*
50 years and over
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people without specific risk conditions: Pneumococcal vaccine (1 dose of 13vPCV + 2 doses 23vPPV)
65 years and over
Influenza (flu) – every year
DTPa (if not given in previous 10 years)*
70 years and over
Pneumococcal vaccine (13vPCV)
70-79 years
Shingles (herpes zoster)

[Polyal]

I dont know if people are still milking it, or, they are showing evidence but the office in town is being hit again and the same in Adelaide. attendance would be <50%.....business are getting hammered and there is only so long they can hold on too.

Im sure I heard even Dan Andrews stating and which point do we just get one with it! Why iso for 7 days when pretty much everyone is vaxxed?

It has to end somewhere,,,in saying that I still havent had a booster but I would still be within the 3 month period of getting it so will assess next month.

I forsee eventually it being rolled into the definition of "the flu". Which I sure will trigger people on both sides of this argument for the past couple of years...but we cant do this for ever.

[Citroënbender]

For so long as people can milk it for repeated $750 bunts, Covid’s likely to be a serious problem in some domains…

Had a chuckle at how many of WH’s vaccine list are in my “acquired immunity” category.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Which other vaccines should I be worried about, we have only been doing this since the 1920's!

Close to the middle of WW1 and WW2.

That was all legit.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Which other vaccines should I be worried about, we have only been doing this since the 1920's!

That's the point. Most people are happy to get vaccines that have proven to be pretty safe over decades. They're more hesitant when someone was created last year in a hurry.

I don't think I've met many people who are anti tetanus and whooping cough vaccinations.

Most people don't realise you should be getting your Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Whooping Cough booster every 10 years. I bet a lot of people let that one expire

[Citroënbender]

I’d like to know why so many people are again being hospitalised with covid/flu.

It seems the campaign of a year ago to support recovery from moderate illnesses at home, has been discarded in favour of advice to get admitted - leaving hospital staff as once again, the meat in the sandwich.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I’d like to know why so many people are again being hospitalised with covid/flu.

It seems the campaign of a year ago to support recovery from moderate illnesses at home, has been discarded in favour of advice to get admitted - leaving hospital staff as once again, the meat in the sandwich.

I dont want to generalise too much, but a bit of snowflake syndrome, and I am also sick of hearing about new variant codes...its covid, imagine if everyone knew the latest normal flu variant ID...ah

It would be interesting to see the data on what kind of people are being hospitalised currently compared to previous waves.

I dont shirk this and say its nothing, certainly not the case, but its getting silly and we simply can not continue forever locking down and freaking out about each strain.

Im worried the constant paranoia is feeding the tolls with the "told ya, Govco will now control you" theories.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 13,544 cases for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0411 (0.9919) and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.



VIC records 12,201 cases for a 10 day average growth of 1.0384 (1.0101) while the actual line moves above the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.



New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.

[jaydee]

My elderly Mum and my brother both got it early last week. I got them both onto the anti viral medication because they both qualified.
They both had mild symptoms so it seems to help.
Recommend you try and get it if you or a family member meets the criteria.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 18th 2022.

39,286 new cases for Australia and 30 deaths so the CMR is 0.122% (-).

NZ reported 7,974 cases and 21 deaths for a CMR of 0.0118% (é).

The UK didn’t report yesterday for a CMR of 0.787% (-).

105,422 new cases in the USA yesterday and 279 deaths sees CMR at 1.148 (ê).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 568M;

No countries recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while no countries drop below.

[martyal44]

Is this right? -don't test for 4 weeks or get booster vaccinated for 3 months after an infection?
(NSW health) would anyone do it any differently?

I got my 1st infection last week on a PO ship.

[russellw]

Not quite sure why they don't want you to test but the no booster makes sense given the infection itself will provide ~90 days of immunity.

[Citroënbender]

There’s been pressure upon decision-makers, from some stuff I’ve read, to reduce that period of supposed resistance post-infection down to just 28 days. It was in a couple of articles recently published by the ABC.

It was interesting to visit a specialist’s rooms yesterday, 200m from a major public hospital and note near complete lack of masks. The only wearers were myself and a fellow maybe ten years older. Yet the reception desk were sanitising pens they handed to incoming new patients!

[T3rminator]

4 weeks is correct. It used to be longer, ~3 months I believe.

No test because they don't believe you can get reinfected within that period. After that, it is regarded as a new infection, which means you risk infecting others again, so you need to test and isolate again if positive. I highly doubt people, especially overseas visitors, would follow this, especially if they only had mild symptoms the first time around.

Note you can still test positive long after you have recovered and are no long infectious, that is why they don't require to test negative after 7 days in order to leave isolation.

Come summer, covid isolation will probably become a thing of the past.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 15,352 cases for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0786 (1.0411) and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.



VIC records 12,984 cases for a 10 day average growth of 1.0544 (1.0384) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.



New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.



As it was the end of our week yesterday, here are the weekly case numbers with NSW having 12,359 more cases than Victoria last week while Victoria recorded 9,084 more cases than the previous week; NSW recorded 3,288 more, Queensland 10,566 more; WA 4,2 49 more and SA 4,172 more. The week totalled 302,968 cases, an 11.7% increase on last week.



.. and a closer look at the last 3 months:

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 13,829 cases for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0812 (1.0786) and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.



VIC records 14,312 cases for a 10 day average growth of 1.0551 (1.0544) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.



New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 20th 2022.

48,971 new cases for Australia and 90 deaths so the CMR is 0.122% (-).

NZ reported 10,696 cases and 34 deaths for a CMR of 0.120% (é).

The UK didn’t report yesterday for a CMR of 0.787% (-).

179,645 new cases in the USA yesterday and 763 deaths sees CMR at 1.146 (ê).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 570M;
Asia passes 165M cases;
South Africa passes 4M cases;

No countries recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Mauritania drops below.

[russellw]

Global case numbers are down a little to 6,272,279 this week compared to the 6,479,206 last week and the number of deaths also dropped from 12,424 last week to 11,486 this week.

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 18,669 cases for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0738 (1.0812) and the actual line moves just above the predictive trend line.



VIC records 12,278 cases for a 10 day average growth of 1.0186 (1.0551) while the actual line drops below the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.



New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 21st 2022.

54,989 new cases for Australia and 84 deaths so the CMR is 0.122% (-).

NZ reported 10,323 cases and 31 deaths for a CMR of 0.121% (é).

The UK reported 132,705 cases and 1,147 deaths this week for a CMR of 0.787% (-).

207,923 new cases in the USA yesterday and 837 deaths sees CMR at 1.144 (ê).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 572M;
South Korea passes 19M cases;
Germany passes 30M cases;

Japan (135,239) recorded a new high; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.

[Citroënbender]

Going to be interesting if NSW remains on or above that predictive trend line. I’ve already started shopping more than my usual week ahead on a few items in case of either having to isomalate or not being well enough to shop on schedule.

[five 7]

New Zealands reporting on Covid deaths changes today, from the WHOs pump up the numbers model, of any one dying within 28 days of Covid diagnosis from any reason classed as covid death to actual death from Covid.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-...VZ52XWR7HUQIY/

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by five 7

New Zealands reporting on Covid deaths changes today, from the WHOs pump up the numbers model, of any one dying within 28 days of Covid diagnosis from any reason classed as covid death to actual death from Covid.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-...VZ52XWR7HUQIY/

I think you have the wrong end of the stick five 7, did you read the article you posted?

New Zealand have made changes to their system, 'at the request of the World Health Organisation.'

'...the new system as a better measure of Covid's burden on society and was an approach consistent to that of the United Kingdom, Australia and the United States.'

The WHO have not 'pumped up' covid numbers, if anything the death rate from covid world wide is vastly under estimated.

It is impossible to know the exact number of deaths due to Covid without an autopsy for everyone who has died in the last couple of years. What you can do is look at excess deaths and make a reasonable calculation compared with previous years before covid.

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0...796-3/fulltext

This study estimates the actual number of deaths due to covid to December 2021 was over 18 million people. Thats over three times the nearly six million the WHO reported had died world wide.

More articles here if you are interested.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01526-0
https://www.who.int/data/sets/global...lled-estimates
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61327778

[MITCHAY]

Well my work rolled over and said you can WFH 100% with agreement from your manager. Though they are still whinging about it being down to manager discretion. Seriously has kept me entertained that lot.

Sure enough as soon as the email came through, it was noticeable people are 100% WFH again, and it has never been 60/40 noticeable to begin with.

That's ok our team will still turn up on Monday and own the office again

[russellw]

Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 14,953 cases for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0556 (1.0738) and the actual line moves below the predictive trend line.



VIC records 10,812 cases for a 10 day average growth of 1.0015 (1.0186) while the actual line remains below the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. Total deaths in Australia pass 11,000.



New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 22nd 2022.

53,247 new cases for Australia and 64 deaths so the CMR is 0.122% (-). Total cases pass 9M.

NZ reported 9,080 cases and 22 deaths for a CMR of 0.122% (é). That makes the two countries even for CMR now.

187,196 new cases in the USA yesterday and 553 deaths sees CMR at 1.143 (ê).

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 573M;
Global deaths pass 6.4M, the last 50k in 27 days;
Europe passes 213M cases;
North America passes 109M cases and 1.5M deaths;
Asia passes 166M cases;
USA passes 92M cases;
Bangladesh passes 2M cases;

Japan (180,826) recorded a new high; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.

[russellw]

Some good news from some British research of 428k patients identified that while there is an increased level of risk of cardiovascular disease during an infection and for 12 weeks after, people without pre-existing CVD who suffer from COVID-19 do not appear to have a long-term increase in incidence of these conditions.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by TrVrPhiLpsiNdstrys

So a month ago i was actually in the ICU with Pneumonia and lost 6kg while in there !!

Was this Covid related or unrelated?

Originally Posted by TrVrPhiLpsiNdstrys

have had the 2 covid shots mandate required for my place of work plus a booster as a lot of people around me were falling sick and then the flu shot that i dont remember ever having had previously!

Did you get the shot because you wanted to, or because you were made to get it in order to retain employment, feed your family and pay your bills?

Originally Posted by TrVrPhiLpsiNdstrys

Am i getting sick because of the shots , or are people burying their head in the sand about how serious this has become and i am actually very lucky i am still alive ??

I often wonder this, my son works with about 25 other people in daily close proximity, by his own choice he is the only one not vaccinated, he is literally the only person a his work that has not been sick with covid, as a matter of fact he was covering shifts getting paid overtime for people off sick with covid.

My wife works in an office with 15 people, 3 of which have chosen not be vaccinated for whatever reason, every single person has been off sick with Covid, some two or three times, while all three unvaccinated people have never been sick with covid or even a cold or flu. One of the tree has attended a number of protest and rallies labelled superspreader events, to this day has not been sick.

This story seems to repeat itself over and over.

But I guess all this stuff is just huge coincidence, with odds akin to winning the jackpot on the lotto six week in a row, but hey it's possible I guess....

The problem is none of it can be proven either way as you can not be vaccinated and unvaccinated at the same time and every person is different.