US Elections - Boring or Important to Aust?

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

The first comment under that article - just need one decent whistle-blower.

Briefly back to the Sea of Japan and the surrounding area. Nothing like a pep talk to the fire up the Boyz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtC_QW6NoTg



I'd hate to be on the receiving end of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5A...GkiGYNgQOBXgCA

And that's just one battle-group, the Pentagon can call on about 10 in total if needed (Fleet Carrier) - and I believe one more is doing sea trials and another being constructed - plus under Trumps Military Budget the Navy will be expanded again by at least 30%.
And what you don't see in that video is whats in the sky, and more importantly, whats under the fleet, or close by - always at least 1 attack or nuclear sub hitching along for the ride.




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Trump appreciates your kind words but I'm trying to think of similar wars (against small countries) that the US has won previously


Two in that very region spring to mind and the results

Korea; No
Vietnam: No

And then there's their efforts in the Middle East, more fails for them

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by xxx000

Trump appreciates your kind words but I'm trying to think of similar wars (against small countries) that the US has won previously


Two in that very region spring to mind and the results

Korea; No
Vietnam: No

And then there's their efforts in the Middle East, more fails for them

Not kind words, just facts.

Hard to win with one hand tied behind your back.

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by Rodp

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/...cid=spartanntp

President Imbecile, ****ing off one ally at a time.

Trumps world...where lying is the truth apparently.

Might be a bit different now with his backer in chief gone into hiding...oops he's with the pope confessing.

[PridenJoy]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

The Daily Wire ?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/

I wouldn't trust anything this website says

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/abc-news-australia/

[Rodp]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/ent...b018a9ce5a3713

Constantly communicates his goals for his first 100 days as President, complains the standard is ridiculous when he cannot deliver them.

http://wtnh.com/2017/04/20/mental-he...d-from-office/

Mental health experts pushing for his removal from office for obvious mental issues. I've always considered him a class A moron, with obvious narcissistic tendencies but if he's also struggling with mental health issues as he ages, he should be removed from the Presidency on that alone.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Rodp

http://wtnh.com/2017/04/20/mental-he...d-from-office/

Mental health experts pushing for his removal from office for obvious mental issues. I've always considered him a class A moron, with obvious narcissistic tendencies but if he's also struggling with mental health issues as he ages, he should be removed from the Presidency on that alone.

Mental health card now? Was the race card not long ago. Seems they're the only 2 cards the Democrats have in their deck.

Last time I check I wasn't qualified to give such a diagnosis but I've always thought that narcissistic tendencies or traits go hand-in-hand with most leaders.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Mental health card now? Was the race card not long ago. Seems they're the only 2 cards the Democrats have in their deck.

So you're of the opinion that Trump's performance through the primaries and so far during his Presidency is by someone completely sound of mind?

Last time I check I wasn't qualified to give such a diagnosis but I've always thought that narcissistic tendencies or traits go hand-in-hand with most leaders.

Typically not *good* leaders.

..and it's far from the only 2 cards that can be played.. for me, this is the most serious breach of his Presidency. That he has the ability to rule in favour of his own business interests. His Russian ties are secondary to that.

https://thinkprogress.org/house-over...n-cf1f413eec39

Thankfully, there's a team of constitutional lawyers working to try and keep Trump honest since he clearly has no intention to be..

http://www.citizensforethics.org/pre...mp-emoluments/

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Rodp

So you're of the opinion that Trump's performance through the primaries and so far during his Presidency is by someone completely sound of mind?

How else could somebody accomplish what he has over the last 2 years with all the crap he had to put up with and be as unhinged as people describe him to be?

[Mercury Bullet]

By telling outright untruths (lies)

What has he accomplished since becoming President that wasn't by executive order? And he can't even get some of that right.

[CJR09]

Sound mind eh...

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

What has he accomplished since becoming President that wasn't by executive order?

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

How else could somebody accomplish what he has over the last 2 years with all the crap he had to put up with and be as unhinged as people describe him to be?

A number of reasons. His ability to convince people of 'alternative facts' when almost everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. For some reason, people connect the 'brand' that Trump has been able to cultivate to a successful businessman. He's a mediocre businessman who hides his net worth. He bankrupts casinos! He's most certainly in severe debt with Russian and Chinese banks as well as other less than favourable lenders. There's a very good reason why he refuses to release his tax returns.

A concerted effort by sites like Wikileaks and Russian intelligence to discredit Hillary while withholding intel gathered on Trump.

The way the electoral college works - he lost the popular vote by ~3 million votes.

The blinkered uninformed voter who thought they were getting something a lot different than the man who rolled up to the inauguration. He was going to drain the swamp, yet filled it with billionaire bankers. Filled key positions with people who, in the past, has been critical to the point of wanting the dismemberment of the departments they now head. Just look at the EPA head.

His popularity has been in freefall since. Alarmingly, it took an upward turn when he impulsively authorised a strike while enjoying chocolate cake - he became the media darling for a few days because news agencies love war, it sends their ratings through the roof. So now we have an unhinged egomaniac who learned that bombing = favourable press and an uptick in approval.

What's humorous about all of it is everything he was either critical of Obama or warned against actions via Twitter, he's conducted himself in a far greater degree.

Sadly, I could keep going on the mediocrity that is Trump but I know I'd be wasting my time. His cheerleaders don't want to know..

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Rodp

A number of reasons. His ability to convince people of 'alternative facts' when almost everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. For some reason, people connect the 'brand' that Trump has been able to cultivate to a successful businessman. He's a mediocre businessman who hides his net worth. He bankrupts casinos! He's most certainly in severe debt with Russian and Chinese banks as well as other less than favourable lenders. There's a very good reason why he refuses to release his tax returns.

A concerted effort by sites like Wikileaks and Russian intelligence to discredit Hillary while withholding intel gathered on Trump.

The way the electoral college works - he lost the popular vote by ~3 million votes.

The blinkered uninformed voter who thought they were getting something a lot different than the man who rolled up to the inauguration. He was going to drain the swamp, yet filled it with billionaire bankers. Filled key positions with people who, in the past, has been critical to the point of wanting the dismemberment of the departments they now head. Just look at the EPA head.

His popularity has been in freefall since. Alarmingly, it took an upward turn when he impulsively authorised a strike while enjoying chocolate cake - he became the media darling for a few days because news agencies love war, it sends their ratings through the roof. So now we have an unhinged egomaniac who learned that bombing = favourable press and an uptick in approval.

What's humorous about all of it is everything he was either critical of Obama or warned against actions via Twitter, he's conducted himself in a far greater degree.

Sadly, I could keep going on the mediocrity that is Trump but I know I'd be wasting my time. His cheerleaders don't want to know..

Did you take into consideration he campaigned like a 'madman' for 18 months? And got laughed at from the get-go!! Had all the main-stream-media against him in every way imaginable!!

He visited States and towns that Hilary didn't bother about, actually she did give them a mention, called them deplorable Lol <-- the same witch that had the debate questions emailed to her in advance and still lost!! Could you fail even more?

Even Obama knew how strong his support was towards the end, that's why he campaigned with her!!!! Because like I said, Obama's legacy (if you could call it that) was finished if Hillary loses!!!

I was right, she even said that in her recent book!!!

[Mercury Bullet]

Originally Posted by Rodp

A number of reasons. His ability to convince people of 'alternative facts' when almost everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. For some reason, people connect the 'brand' that Trump has been able to cultivate to a successful businessman. He's a mediocre businessman who hides his net worth. He bankrupts casinos! He's most certainly in severe debt with Russian and Chinese banks as well as other less than favourable lenders. There's a very good reason why he refuses to release his tax returns.

A concerted effort by sites like Wikileaks and Russian intelligence to discredit Hillary while withholding intel gathered on Trump.

The way the electoral college works - he lost the popular vote by ~3 million votes.

The blinkered uninformed voter who thought they were getting something a lot different than the man who rolled up to the inauguration. He was going to drain the swamp, yet filled it with billionaire bankers. Filled key positions with people who, in the past, has been critical to the point of wanting the dismemberment of the departments they now head. Just look at the EPA head.

His popularity has been in freefall since. Alarmingly, it took an upward turn when he impulsively authorised a strike while enjoying chocolate cake - he became the media darling for a few days because news agencies love war, it sends their ratings through the roof. So now we have an unhinged egomaniac who learned that bombing = favourable press and an uptick in approval.

What's humorous about all of it is everything he was either critical of Obama or warned against actions via Twitter, he's conducted himself in a far greater degree.

Sadly, I could keep going on the mediocrity that is Trump but I know I'd be wasting my time. His cheerleaders don't want to know..

Totally agree except on one point.

Media really don't like wars, it means sending people into danger.
How many people do Fox/Breitbart have in Iraq/Syria - none.

The people who do love war and associated posturing are uneducated right wingers, that salivate over USA and 'Murrica!!

Hence the predictable but sad uplift in the polls.

[CoupeKing]

China turning the taps off?

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/04/nor...rtage-gas.html

Unusual Military traffic by all 3 parties on North Korea's border also.

[nuthin' fancy]

Originally Posted by Rodp

A number of reasons. His ability to convince people of 'alternative facts' when almost everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. For some reason, people connect the 'brand' that Trump has been able to cultivate to a successful businessman. He's a mediocre businessman who hides his net worth. He bankrupts casinos! He's most certainly in severe debt with Russian and Chinese banks as well as other less than favourable lenders. There's a very good reason why he refuses to release his tax returns.

A concerted effort by sites like Wikileaks and Russian intelligence to discredit Hillary while withholding intel gathered on Trump.

The way the electoral college works - he lost the popular vote by ~3 million votes.

The blinkered uninformed voter who thought they were getting something a lot different than the man who rolled up to the inauguration. He was going to drain the swamp, yet filled it with billionaire bankers. Filled key positions with people who, in the past, has been critical to the point of wanting the dismemberment of the departments they now head. Just look at the EPA head.

His popularity has been in freefall since. Alarmingly, it took an upward turn when he impulsively authorised a strike while enjoying chocolate cake - he became the media darling for a few days because news agencies love war, it sends their ratings through the roof. So now we have an unhinged egomaniac who learned that bombing = favourable press and an uptick in approval.

What's humorous about all of it is everything he was either critical of Obama or warned against actions via Twitter, he's conducted himself in a far greater degree.

Sadly, I could keep going on the mediocrity that is Trump but I know I'd be wasting my time. His cheerleaders don't want to know..

I'm no Trump supporter but in my early 50s I'm coming to terms with the fact that politicians will only let you down.

Name one true to their word.

Trump has enormous apparent self-belief (who knows whether he privately doubts himself or not). He doesn't have to be consistent with what he said yesterday or the day before, he doesn't have to respect anyone, he doesn't need to consider the opinions of others.

When you are convinced with perfect logic that your arguments are reasonable and factual and relevant, where do you go when the other guy says, "I don't care"?

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Did you take into consideration he campaigned like a 'madman' for 18 months? And got laughed at from the get-go!! Had all the main-stream-media against him in every way imaginable!!

Which worked in his favour and he played it up. The 'successful businessman' sticking it to those people in the government who don't care about us. Trump will be different! He'll drain the swamp! He'll put America first! Look at him on Twitter saying it like it is - sticking it to the media! If you spend time to actually listen to what he's saying, he's a gibbering imbecile. If you fact check just about anything he says, it's a lie - often contradictory to claims he's made earlier. His Twitter is an absolute gold mine. Just about everything he was critical of Obama over, he's gone beyond.

Perfect example of his incoherency: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b08ab70dc0f646

He can't string two sentences together unless he's reading it off a teleprompter. But the idiots lap it up.

He has certainly proven that he's different - in that he had no idea what the President's role is, what his powers were and his first meeting with Obama after he became President elect, his head was spinning. He tweeted over the Supreme Court ruling when his 'Muslim ban' was overturned - see you in court! Moron.

He's made so many embarrassing gaffes, comedy shows can't top the absurdity that is the reality of his Presidency. He's surrounded himself with the worst people with a sprinkle of nepotism.

As I posted earlier, Trump boldly proclaimed all the things he would achieve in his first 100 days as President.. now he's complaining about the absurdity of the 100 day deadline - that he set!

I wouldn't trust the man to run a cake stall, let alone a country.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

I'm no Trump supporter but in my early 50s I'm coming to terms with the fact that politicians will only let you down.

..and that's exactly what he campaigned on and crushed career politicians. He didn't campaign on policy, he was the one that was going to shake everything up. They were campaigning while he was putting on a show, and the seals lapped it up.

He'll build a wall, and make Mexico pay for it. Wrong. If the wall even gets started in his term (or before he's impeached..) I'll be amazed. Could even shut down the government next week.

https://www.thestreet.com/story/1409...rder-wall.html

He'll appeal Obamacare the first day in office. Bzzt. Oh, Obamacare is the ACA? We need that! The alternative couldn't even get passed as a budget bill it was so horrible.

He'll drain the swamp - and fill it with billionaire sharks who'll line up for their tax cuts. Trickle down has never worked before, but it will.. this time, under the best deal maker in the world, believe me.

I would have to think long and hard to choose a candidate worse than Trump. Even Palin would be better, and she's a gibbering idiot as well.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

Totally agree except on one point.

Media really don't like wars, it means sending people into danger.

Not so sure about that, and here's someone who makes my disdain for Trump make it look like I'm a supporter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGFel-fhGkw

[Rodp]

Angela Merkel reportedly had to explain the 'fundamentals' of EU trade to Trump 11 times

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...xUs2kcLvZEX.99

Because he's an imbecile? Because he doesn't respect the opinion of a woman that isn't Ivanka? Both?

This is the same leader he handed a 'bill' for US participation in NATO (that somehow has crawled out of obsolescence - not Trump being wrong on calling it obsolete for the last year) and refused to shake her hand at the end of the meeting like a petulant child. I guess if she continued to school him on being a grown up leader, that would cause him to spit his dummy.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Rodp

Angela Merkel reportedly had to explain the 'fundamentals' of EU trade to Trump 11 times

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...xUs2kcLvZEX.99

Because he's an imbecile? Because he doesn't respect the opinion of a woman that isn't Ivanka? Both?

This is the same leader he handed a 'bill' for US participation in NATO (that somehow has crawled out of obsolescence - not Trump being wrong on calling it obsolete for the last year) and refused to shake her hand at the end of the meeting like a petulant child. I guess if she continued to school him on being a grown up leader, that would cause him to spit his dummy.

Merkel? lol who cares. The sooner she's gone the better. And Trump knows that if Le Pen wins the EU is finished...FINISHED!

As for NATO, look a little deeper, especially in regards to who owes money. Negotiations are still underway I believe.


Some more news on the Border - starts @ 5:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cGjczrNnDc

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Merkel? lol who cares. The sooner she's gone the better.

Straight from the Trump school of dodging the question. It doesn't matter who had to school Trump, the fact that he had to be schooled 11 times before he understood is problematic. You'd think the best negotiator on the planet would know exactly what to negotiate and to whom.

Who knew healthcare could be so complicated? When he was banging on about repealing ACA first day in office and has made a complete hash of it ever since. Can't negotiate a bill when he has majority in the house and senate!

The Chinese President having to explain the NK situation to him.. then he immediately dispatched an armada off the coast.. but, uhm, he didn't. They were conducting training exercises with the Australian Navy..

His intelligence reports are comprised of whatever days he tunes into Fox and Friends. Obama 'wire tapped' me - because some clown on Fox and Friends said so. He's since been let go, but Trump still claims it happened, and he has the evidence that he doesn't want to show anyone.

As for NATO, look a little deeper, especially in regards to who owes money. Negotiations are still underway I believe.

Owes money? Clearly you have the same fallacious understanding as Trump does there too.

[Rodp]

Approve funds for my wall, or I take it out on the people..

Master negotiator.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...rder_wall.html

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Rodp

Straight from the Trump school of dodging the question. It doesn't matter who had to school Trump, the fact that he had to be schooled 11 times before he understood is problematic. You'd think the best negotiator on the planet would know exactly what to negotiate and to whom.

Who knew healthcare could be so complicated? When he was banging on about repealing ACA first day in office and has made a complete hash of it ever since. Can't negotiate a bill when he has majority in the house and senate!

The Chinese President having to explain the NK situation to him.. then he immediately dispatched an armada off the coast.. but, uhm, he didn't. They were conducting training exercises with the Australian Navy..

His intelligence reports are comprised of whatever days he tunes into Fox and Friends. Obama 'wire tapped' me - because some clown on Fox and Friends said so. He's since been let go, but Trump still claims it happened, and he has the evidence that he doesn't want to show anyone.



Owes money? Clearly you have the same fallacious understanding as Trump does there too.

LOL dodge you? plz.

What was the question again? Is it fact-based or another emotional opinion?

As for his response after meeting with China's leader, you might want to start looking with both eyes open! President Xi Jinping sent 150,000 troops to North Korea's border too!

[CoupeKing]

The failure is back, unbelievable! Listen to those mental midgets in the crowd scream, American Idol audience me thinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_54d...GkiGYNgQOBXgCA


Ex-Hawaii governor calling for Trumps help:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/polit...146189029.html

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

The failure is back, unbelievable! Listen to those mental midgets in the crowd scream, American Idol audience me thinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_54d...GkiGYNgQOBXgCA


Ex-Hawaii governor calling for Trumps help:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/polit...146189029.html

I thought Trump had that market sewn up re The American Idol audience....

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

I thought Trump had that market sewn up re The American Idol audience....

Does he own it? I don't know it was a figure of speech. You mean in regards to some of his voter base? Most of the whiners and cupcakes voted for Hillary.

Remember all the celebrities she campaigned with? Miley Cyrus, Beyonce, Katy Perry, heaps more - all their collective fans voted for her.

Here's the best example. Same crowd cried on election night. Watch it all if you can, but I bet you can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-WXhfajozM

[buggerlugs]

I think you may have stopped taking your Lexapro Tablets. Your like a broken record...

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

I think you may have stopped taking your Lexapro Tablets. Your like a broken record...

Thought so, typical Beta troll.

Had to google Lexapro. No, I don't take any meds. Lame comment for anyone on here that does though.

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Thought so, typical Beta troll.

Had to google Lexapro. No, I don't take any meds. Lame comment for anyone on here that does though.

Your a clown...........