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K, i have a Giant hybrid bike and i'm due to replace the back tyre so my question is?
Since i'm starting out, doing 20-25km rides should i try and put skinnier tyres on there atm are 700x38C. Also to take into consideration i am still 140kgs and where i ride there are a few rough crappy bits of road. The rims aren't factory, had to upgrade after kept busting spokes lol. |
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Skinny tyres will make it easier/faster due to less rolling resistance. But for now speed and "easy" is not what you're after. What width are you rims. Look for the ETRTO size, it should be written somewhere.
Perhaps a compromise in width of around a 32. Look for something like a schwalbe marathon, or similar from another brand like continental, Michelin, etc. The Marathons are pretty bullet proof and still a good tyre comfort and grip wise. Wider tyres over skinner toad spec will mean you can run less pressure but your weight will require you to run in the upper limit of the tyres pressure recommendation.
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Damo76, ultimately a skinnier tyre will give less rolling resistance, but the size tyre you have is fine. The best investment you can make is upgrading the engine, which is you!
I've gone from a hybrid, wondering why I couldn't go as fast as other cyclists, so I upgraded to a carbon framed road bike. I've ridden my carbon framed bike the past 3 years, but only this year I set a goal to ride in a 100km ride. Before this, most of my rides were to and from work (nearly 20km each way) and the occasional 30-50k ride. I think I've started to improve in the last 6 months. After 3 years on my carbon framed road bike, I did my 100km ride in June (Brissie to Bay charity ride), and don't get me wrong, I felt great! I'm nearly 49, and used to smoke a pack of 40 cigs a day for nearly 20 years! I rewarded myself by buying a pair of carbon fibre rims... I know it's bling factor, but an excuse to improve myself to justify the expense. In my riding (an excuse to get away from housework! not good for a single dad..) I came across a bloke on a mountain bike who was matching my pace into a vile headwind, because he snapped a cable on the road bike and had to get a ride in. I rode the Brisbane to Gold Coast charity ride, and I was being passed by mountain bikes and hybrids... I still improved my speed, but I knew I could have done better. I guess what I'm trying to say is that don't get absorbed in needing to upgrade your bike parts too soon... unless you've got an open budget! Your best upgrade is in the time you spend pedalling, and pushing yourself a bit further. Upgrades are nice, but you have to back them up with your body, and building the muscle groups up. It's a great weight losing hobby, though!
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Don't buy upgrades, ride up grades - Eddy Merckx (I think)
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Wouldnt let other riders dictate the way you want to ride mate. You do the best you can damo. Don't let you being overtaken be a negative thing. I used to let that get to me all the time to the point where I nearly talk myself out of riding. Now I just dont care what others do. I am doing my own thing and thats all that matters at the time.
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there are many factors why you get passed - I used to try keep up with guys on the path on the latter part of my commute, only to learn my commute is 30 odd k's with hills and theirs is <10 and flat. ;)
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Actually - you are better off riding slowly and keeping your heart rate in a lower zone - Better for fat burn - the higher you take it whilst yes you still burn calories, you begin burn muscle and not fat due to metabolic rates - gets complex.. ;)
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Spot on. Explains the reason why my HR is in the higher anabolic rate and Im dropping kgs of muscle like no other. I was wondering why I kept not putting muscle on and read that this was the cause. I just wanted to lose the fat not the muscle.
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David Heatly's site Cycling-Inform can be a good source of info, but he's also one of those sites that will produce free publications loaded with drivel that requires you to pay up for a complete picture.
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So... have been riding for a few month now on a friends borrowed road bike, and am loving it! Haven't ridden bikes since the old bmx days as a kid right up until I got my license then things changed very quickly as soon as I had a car hehe.
Have been looking at a specialized tarmac or trek domane... both can have either 105 or ultegra although i'm not sure a relatively new rider like myself would need the upgrade. But in saying that I don't want to be upgrading 12 months down the track. It will be used to supplement the running I already do, but also just for enjoyment as I miss just getting out on a bike and exploring. Any opinions would be welcomed on bikes i've mentioned or haven't mentioned, and drivetrain... Will be taking both for a test ride this coming weekend ![]()
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Nothing at all ![]() Adz Whilst I'm not a trek fan at all (my issue, not yours) I can say that the difference between 105 and Ultegra isn't THAT big.. 105 is still a very capable groupset. HOWEVER, you'll find that pretty quickly you'll want Ultegra, and if you're able to afford it right off the bat, then I say do that. Poor man pays twice. For me personally, I love Ultegra and some what snobbishly wouldn't go under that, however I also don't see the point in Dura Ace, so maybe I'm just a weird cat, and you can ignore me all together.
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If you are talking full fit out of 105 v Ultegra etc. too remember this includes better brakes, shifters etc. a lot more than just a cassette
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Between 6800 Ultegra and 5800 105, there is stuff all different.
Mostly materials in which they are made and thus weight. I have bikes with both and to be honest I don't notice the difference. Label = Status. Having said that I can see a difference in the quality of the cassettes, but between DA/Ultegra/105 11 speed cassette they can be easily and cheaply (except DA) and swapped out. An ultegra 6800 cassette can be picked up for about $60. (Don't fork out for a DA cassette the carbon cores break easily). My advice. Go the 105 groupo then the best upgrade path is to Ultegra Di2 for about $1100. That's a difference you will REALLY notice.
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Took it back and now have a emonda for the remainder of the loan, specialized went back at the end of today... Will see how it feels
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when i bought me bike in 2012 (cannondale caad8) all i could afford was tiagra.
i now have a 105 cassette as i couldn't seem to get a tiagra in a 11-28, only 12-28. i got an ultegra chain to replace my kmc but apart from the branding (cassette and chain) i would be lying if i said it made a difference. i've never ridden any other bike so can't comment on the brake/gear operation of the levers. sounds like whichever way you go you will end up with a pretty nice bike. |
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Also some info on the current range of Shimano groupsets. http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/...2016-road-bike
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And now there's the tempting option of disc brakes Vs calipers....
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If you want a comfortable ride Giant also do the Defy range, I got a Giant Defy Advanced 0 beginning of last year, have been pretty happy with it, definitely smooth riding and comfortable ergos with the advantages of carbon, Di2, etc. etc.
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I could get flamed for this but im going to say it anyway.
I'll start out by saying that i ride my road bike here in Canberra around 100km a week, to and from work, i also ride my MTB bike at least twice a week. I noticed online all the hate at road bike riders and never really understood the hate from drivers until last week. In Canberra we have a massive bike scene and everyone rides to the paths and when on the road everyone is courteous, never riding more than two abreast and if there is a shoulder we are riding on it, over to the far left if cars coming. I have never had an issue with a car while riding and when i am driving i have never had an issue with a rider. In general, it just seems we have embraced bikes here in Canberra and the bike riders don't abuse the freedom. I have just spent the last week at home, the Yarra Valley in Victoria, visiting family before i go away overseas for work. I now completely understand the hate Victorian drivers give to bike riders down there. I have never in my life witnessed such selfish and dangerous riding. On the Maroondah Highway on the way to Healsville i had to drive passed riders riding 2-3 abreast in the middle of the road, they wouldn't even move over and ride on the shoulder. On the 2 more serious occasions there was around 20 cars banked up in a 100 zone doing 40 and unable to pass. Coming into Lilydale and through Croydon almost all riders do not ride on the shoulder, they ride about 1m off the white line in the lane. Is this normal practice down there? No wonder so many bikes get skittled in Victoria. I am just amazed at the no care attitude of the bike riders i experienced, if it is a two lane road in a 100 zone and you are on a blind corner you are absolutely crazy to be riding off the shoulder, your literally asking to die. Even general road rules, here in Canberra you never see a bike run a red light, in Melbourne they are going through them all over the place. Interested to hear your thoughts guys, i've only written this as i am truly gobsmacked and can now understand why riders get so much hate sometimes. |
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Without another car v cyclist debate, it is basically just courtesy and respect.
That's all. Both sides need to play ball. I'm in Sydney, so no idea about Melbourne riders, but I bet there are a million courteous riders for the bad bunch you saw. Just like there are a million courteous drivers for the few bad ones you see. I actually just got off the phone to a guy at work, explaining my ride to / from work and he asked am I crazy? I said no, I just use roads where I know it won't cause issues. In return, I've never had an issue from drivers on my commute.
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Get to a gym with a stationary trainer if you know you cant ride for that long. Spinning the legs at a gym is better than nothing I have found.
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I live in Melbourne and travel interstate fairly regularly for work. Melbourne road users (all of them, no matter what mode of transport) me included, suck!! Self centered, arrogant and full of their own self importance, basically you need to be to survive. Add to this crap bicycle infrastructure, lack of knowledge (or care) of road rules and what you have is a recipe for disaster. Maroondah highway has to be one of the worst roads for cycling around here. I won't ride it. Chances are the guys you see are exercising their right to ride two abreast because if they ride in single file, they will get buzzed constantly at high speed by arrogant drivers that don't care for their safety, only the time it takes to to reach their destination. As a cyclist in this glorious city often you need to exercise your right to claim the lane for your own safety, roundabouts especially. By riding two abreast you often force passing drivers in to the mentality of using the other lane, thus give you space. You even make them slow down before they pass you. Not ideal, but it is what it is. Cycling infrastructure here in the inner city leaves a lot to be desired, get to the outer suburbs and semi rural and its pretty much non existent. near me you have cycle lanes that are marked by a bicycle painted on the road with 3 or 4 dashes every few hundred meters. no marked lane. this on a 3 lane rd with ample room in the left lane for a fully marks lane this road gets quite a lot of cycle traffic too. I always stick to dedicated bike paths where possible, Melbourne does have a lot of those, but they have their own hazards too....Loose dogs and old folk etc. 2c deposited without ranting ![]()
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I know most of this is road bike talk. But just wondering if any MTB'ers have heard of these mag lock pedals? I dont really wanna go SPD's im happy with my Shimano saints but i think it my be beneficial to go to something like these.
http://www.maglockbikepedal.com/stor...ike_Pedal.html
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