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Join Date: Apr 2006
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I believe they were a twin piston and an even larger disk than the BA, though I can't remember the actual size.
It should fit up, but you will need at least 17" wheels. Cheers. |
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Wangaratta
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Thanks for the info mate. For them it's like looking for a needle in a haystack full of ford calipers. Anyone perhaps have a serial no or caliper model no or exact disc size I can pass onto them to help look. Would they have tickford or premium printed on them? Painted? Would seriously turn a massive job into an hours job with the same result
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Shockwave
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Seaford SA
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http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/x...47/fbrake2.jpg
Taken from this thread. https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?p=5328384 Also check here. https://fordforums.com.au/showthread...premium+brakes Painted red. It also saays they are 329mm disks. Please note I have never come across these, so my info is not to be taken as gospel. Hopefully others with experience will be able to help out. I reckon though, that if these wrecker guys didn't remove the disks and calipers they would be long gone. Cheers, |
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Thanks heaps for the help. He thinks he has them laying around so fingers crossed. You guys are like the Wikipedia of au falcon!
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I think there is a bracket that goes between the upright and caliper to allow the caliper to move out for the bigger rotor. They used a bracket for the C4 calipers that mounted at the front of the wheel on Ser 2 & 3 .
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Yep premium brake uprights. Sought after but useless without the calipers.
Was C4 corvette calipers with the tickford symbol. Discs were 329x25mm Second best non brembo combination and is period correct
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#187 | ||
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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Great news if the wreckers can still find them. I'll know more today but if not, finally got a set of the right parts now anyway
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Wangaratta
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So the guys at the wreckers remember taking the premium tickford calipers off and put them aside as originally I asked for ba calipers...They have been looking hard and come to the conclusion that the tickford calipers have been stolen as they didn't sell them and they are now gone.... That leaves me back to the original plan of the full series 3 conversion with 322mm carrier, discs and ba calipers...... unless.....anyone might know where I can get a set or tickford premium front calipers that face the rear as I've now got a spare pair of uprights that will fit them
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#189 | ||
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If anyone wants ford premium brake uprights off a series 3 xr6 with the calipers facing rear, your welcome to them.... FREE. Happy to post at cost or welcome to come pick them up
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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EDIT: Just seen this was yonks ago...
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#191 | ||
Starter Motor
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Hey guys,
If anyone is still following this I need some help! I have a au2 xr8 I have recently fitted front premium brakes off a ba xr6 turbo, they are 325mm x 32mm and apparently use a c4 caliper. I obviously bought them second hand, when I fitted them, the pedal was terrible! It nearly has to be on the floor before the brakes work... The old 287s worked better but they were warped to the **** house... Has anyone that has done a brake upgrade had this problem or know a fix for it? Cheers 👍🏻 |
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Location: Brisbane
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Hi All, just completed this upgrade almost successfully.
However, my brake lines are wayyy too short. These are the S1 original brake lines. I've changed to BA bits incl calipers but they look the same as the S2/3 calipers at the start of the thread. Does it need the S2 lines? Wreckers cut them off... Cheers K IMAG0644.jpeg
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Hey team - can anyone confirm that BA rear caliper bracket slide pins are the same as the AU ones?
I'm doing a cheap BA rear brake upgrade on the XR8 and one of the BA caliper brackets has a dodgy slide pin, so I was hoping to be able to use my existing AU pins. I could take the wheel off and disassemble to check, but I'm being lazy for now.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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i just put on AU2 brakes on my AU1 and I can confirm the stock master cylinder does a fantastic job with no issues with a longer pedal at all
my AU1 is a March '99 build and I read that in May '99 they all got the revised larger master cylinder to help with long spongy pedal feel when hot how can i tell if mine has the larger master cylinder? its 100% and never been touched before also i'm going to fit a full set of PBR upgrade brakes once i get my 17in wheels refurbished as they don't fit under my 15's currently the fronts i know will just bolt on but how about the rears? will the caliper bolt onto the live axle rear of my AU1? if so is it just spacers i need? and what size? they are 328mm x 26mm wide where as the AU1 is 287 and 10.5mm wide or should i sell the upgrade rear calipers and just fit BA-FG rears with 303mm x 16mm rotors and forget the vented rear calipers, the AU is alot lighter than any BA-FG anyway
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#198 | ||
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The only problem I see in all this is that the ABS module is calibrated to the smaller volume calipers which will effectively cause a delay in the operation and possibly a long pedal.
I know that the wiring harness changed from model to model so you probably can't even adapt a series 2/3 ABS unit to a 1. |
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for $140 you can get new caliper brackets and run 322mm rotors with BA calipers, if you need to buy rotors anyway the extra $140 is probably worth it
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I might do that..is the upgrade to ba calipers straight forward? Nothing else need changing or spacers added?
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just need calipers and rotors, pretty sure the brake lines are the same (same parts on ebay anyway)
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I've done the BF turbo upgrade on my XR8 - 322mm on the front and 303mm on the rear. You can use your old rear calipers for the rear but will need some brackets off a B-series for the calipers. They swapped straight over though you will need a spacer (a suitable size washer will do) to centre them over the rotor. For the front, when I fitted my 322mm calipers the brakes lines were at their absolute limit in terms of being long enough. I have since changed the lines over to braided. |
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And to confirm, it's a 3mm spacer that is needed.
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#205 | ||
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Any tips on mounting the vented rear pbr upgrade brakes on the back of an AU? Id assume its just the caliper thats dufferent and the same 3mm spacers to be used
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Sorry mate, i only have experience with the solid rear, but from what i have read, the 3mm is a consistent measurement across the board.
Uncle_Ken may be able to elaborate? He has done the Terry upgrade (I think)
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what brake upgrade can i do that will fit inside my LTD 16's for AU2
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I have an update based on my AU S1 Futura
first i fitted AU2 twin piston calipers with 287mm rotors and they fit under 15in alloy wheels easy, plenty of room, not sure about steel wheels as they have a lip where the spot welds are so may rub, or may not rub some notes about the swap it all just bolts on but to get the lower arms in, the front sumframe needs to be dropped, plenty of penetration fluid and a rattle gun helps those studs get dirty and they are long, i left the nut on and use a lever to drop the subframe 1 side at a time. i also only bolted the sway bar bracket on the outer side using the factory threaded holes and i am using my AU1 master cylinder and have noticed no travel difference in the pedal and brakes work awesome compared to the S1 brakes. I may have issues when i fit the BA calipers but a new late '99 AU ute master cyl should fix that second i fitted BA twin piston calipers and 298mm rotors and the 15in alloy futura wheel will bolt up but it scraps in the outer edge of the caliper and mounting bracket, i'd say a pretty easy task to trim but i'm not going to bother as i now have a set of FG turbo 322mm brakes and 17in wheels to go on the old girl as 16in steelies won't fit over 322mm brakes ![]() ![]() also if you want to know the different between AU, BA and BF/FG Turbo brakes here is a set of images note the turbo caliper bracket sits about 15mm off the rotor hub (has a clear gap) where the BA caliper bracket is only about 5mm off the rotor just like the AU, also the turbo caliper bracket has tear drops where the bolts hole are AU ![]() BA ![]() FG Turbo ![]()
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not sure there would be a huge difference between 287 and 298mm rotors though
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