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23-02-2012, 11:01 AM | #181 | ||
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good luck with your interviews.....stay positive, remember you are the best man for the job!
my hot water is gas and I'm dithering about going solar water as well....still sitting on the fence! the rebate really doesn't bother me either way, savings gained from my solar array will easily pay for the solar water but I'm saving for a new caravan as well and if I spend a fair chunk of my money on the water heater I wont have as much in my pocket for the caravan!.......cant have that now!
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23-02-2012, 11:24 AM | #182 | |||
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Those numbers just don't add up. A power station the size of Yallourn power station makes enough electricity to power 2 million homes. That is all the households electricity use. |
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23-02-2012, 11:31 AM | #183 | |||
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Also, think: 30,000 solar hot water systems installed each offsetting 30 tonnes of carbon emissions over fifteen years That equates to removing 13,500,000 tonnes of carbon emissions over fifteen years, that's a lot of offset!
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23-02-2012, 11:38 AM | #184 | |||
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Where exactly are these small power stations you talk about? |
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23-02-2012, 12:07 PM | #185 | |||
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I could be wrong here but from my calculations the heating of water would produce about 7 tonnes of emissions per year per house, therefore 30,000 x 7 x 15 years = 3,150,000 of emissions over fifteen years. Which would be enough to switch off a tiny coal fired power station of the size which we do not have here in Australia. |
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23-02-2012, 12:15 PM | #186 | |||
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200,000+ migrant intake into Australia blows all those theories. |
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23-02-2012, 12:31 PM | #187 | ||
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I am considering putting a solar power system on my new house. I am just wondering do any know the life expectations of the panels and ongoing maintenance costs, if any , to the system?
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23-02-2012, 12:40 PM | #188 | |||
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life expectancy of the panels vary from manufacturer to manufacturer but the usual life expectancy is a multi stage event as the panel ages the output diminishes the warranty usually runs in two stages .....10 years @ 90% and 25 years @ 80% is roughly "normal" if the sales person states a simple 25 year warranty then question the percentage drop.....if they cant answer in a knowledgable way then seek another installer as far as I'm aware there are no ongoing maintenance costs unless you have them cleaned professionally
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23-02-2012, 12:52 PM | #189 | |||
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I am well aware of that, I am disputing staggs numbers. Re read please. |
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23-02-2012, 01:00 PM | #190 | ||
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c'mon fellers.....give it a rest!......point made!
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23-02-2012, 03:59 PM | #191 | ||
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are these systems portable? im in a rental property and am just wondering if the system can be moved to another house if i move. dont want to spend 7 grand on someone else's property if im not goin to get my moneys worth.
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23-02-2012, 04:38 PM | #192 | |||
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23-02-2012, 08:23 PM | #193 | ||
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I would to start off by saying I looked long and hard at a solar power system.
I was looking for a 5kw system and found prices ranging from $18,000.00 right down to $6000.00, during my research I found that there is definately a big variation in the quality of panels and inverters, and it really comes down to you do get what you pay for. I ended up going with a local company, Positronic Solar. The system I choose is a 7kw system and had 28 x 250 watt ET panels with a 5kw Xantrex inverter for $ 14,800.00 I have to say the company was fantastic to deal with and very helpfull, after agreeing to terms and having the system approved by energex, it took about another 3 weeks to get it installed. On the day it was booked in, 2 men arrived and completed the installation in 1 day and by around 4pm that afternoon I was generating power Since it was installed I have averaged 39kwh/day generation. Needless to say I am very happy. Cheers Jeff
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23-02-2012, 10:10 PM | #194 | ||
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nice result jeff!.....gotta be happy with that!
wish mine was so smooth.........thats a pretty good average as well are you in the tropics or around the centre?
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24-02-2012, 09:12 PM | #195 | ||
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Im in Brisbane, pity it has been raing the last 2 days, that puts a quick halt to power generation.
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24-02-2012, 11:12 PM | #196 | ||
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I've looked into going solar power into the grid and have decided against it. The headlines look interesting and the quick maths indicate it should pay for itself in 5 yrs + or -.
My decision to go against it is based on the credit I receive is more then twice what it costs me to buy from the power supply co - yes there is government subsidy to assist in getting more panels on roofs to reduce the pressure on current supply, but my conspiracy theory is once they get the desired numbers the credits I'm receiving get cut back to less then what it costs for me to buy (reduction of 50% or more). At that point I'm then paying for my power (assuming I put enough panels on the roof to nulify my powert bill). Aside from that technology is improving and a thing called 3D solar is the next phase where it can produce more energy for less panel due to better designs (claims it can generate power when its raining) - its not on the market yet, but its being developed and like anything it will be expensive to start with then reduce as its goes on. Aside from that my eldest kid moved out of home and whammo - the quarterly bill is down by $100. Just got to wait another 2-3 years and we'll see the next offspring move out,. |
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24-02-2012, 11:56 PM | #197 | |||
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7kw of panels and a 5kw inverter? Hmmmm...doesn't sound right mate. |
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24-02-2012, 11:57 PM | #198 | |||
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It shouldn't mean zero mate....should still make some power. |
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24-02-2012, 11:58 PM | #199 | |||
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No they are not portable....you need a permit to install them. But that doesn't mean they cant be unbolted with a 6mm allen key, 10mm socket, 8mm ring spanner and a philips #2 screwdriver...... Oh...be a good lad and turn all circuit breakers off, and throw a blanket to cover the panels before you play with these systems. |
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25-02-2012, 05:59 AM | #200 | ||
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I'm new to understanding solar and its benefits. Have seen large differences in advertised prices and system outputs.
Tru-Value are advertising a 4.2kw expandable system for $1896, 1.5kw worth of panels only. Is there more to this price, and could I buy 2 of these specials and use the second set of panels to upgrade the system and put the second inverter in storage? http://www.truevaluesolar.com.au/?gc...FQMgpAodOH50pw Any input would be appreciated |
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25-02-2012, 07:31 AM | #201 | ||
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You only get the gov subsidy once, so the soecond unit and extra panels cost more than the first.
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25-02-2012, 08:51 AM | #202 | ||
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You can get the rebate for the mumber of roof's you own, I was concidering installing one on a propery in Carnegie, and 'negotiating' the lot to be installed on the house i 'live' in.
The risk is, I would get two **** systems instead of one! the TVS setup still hasn't grabbed me as I know there are getter panels out there and inverters, but for Essendon to back them, I guess they are ok?
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25-02-2012, 09:43 AM | #203 | |||
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I looked into these systems and decided against it,.....a lot of "specials" out there at the moment and always more in the pipeline go local, go quality! any system can be expanded provided you allow for it with inverter size initially...... do your home work.....5 minutes on the computer will save thousands and up the quality.....cheaper now than when I bought and my savings from a little bit of time on the interweb were roughly $3,000
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25-02-2012, 09:46 AM | #204 | |||
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production will be down but there will still be some generating,....rain is good, saves me getting up on the shed roof to wash the panels although they still need a wash every now and then to get the grime off that rain doesnt get off
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25-02-2012, 09:49 AM | #205 | |||
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Hmmm...not quite true... One little known trick is to simply put two or more inverters on the one circuit. Nothing wrong with doing it, it can offer more system resilience to have two 3kw inverters instead of one 5 kw. They don't have to be the same make and model either. And often the prices amount to the same. I have three inverters in my setup, all going to the same phase...they just work. |
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25-02-2012, 09:54 AM | #206 | |||
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yep! I've heard of folks doing that but then that involves purchasing another inverter when upgrade time comes, if it is factored in before installation then the upgraded/upsized inverter will be cheaper brother in law has 3 inverters on his.....it was placed when instalation was undertaken, necessitated because of size I assume I've yet to have a good look at his but it is a large array that takes up all his shed roof which is a massive size
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--------------------------------------------------------------- G'day....I'm Dave, ...everyone calls me Poppa,..05.. B.A. Fairmont mark II... may your day's be filled with smiles, your life be filled with love, may your children know nothing but happiness and joy, cherish the memory of those who strove before us for they cleared the way, spare a thought for those who serve we owe so much to so many, life and the freedom to enjoy it is a special gift that can be taken away far too soon! Last edited by poppa smurf; 25-02-2012 at 10:00 AM. |
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25-02-2012, 09:59 AM | #207 | |||
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25-02-2012, 10:02 AM | #208 | ||
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no idea how you could keep your quarterly bill down to $100......my supply charge alone was $90 without any power placed on!
please tell me your secret! when my quarterly bill hit $450 was when I said enough is enough!
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only the 2nd son and wife at home now, cant kick the son out which leaves the wife...HMMmmm!
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