Final FPV sparks kilowatt controversy (GT-F vs GTS)

[SensationFG8]

To claim the miami sounds wimpier than the "3.9L I6"??? indicates we are being trolled.

Probably best not to feed it.

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

The facts are that even a stock Toyota Aurion would make minced meat of the XY "old 351 GT" in any performance test you choose. Id be embarrassed chugging away in an old GT today as people would just punch past you on the highway at their leisure.

Worst post in the history of the interwebz

and trolling too

[ILLaViTaR]

Fine I have a resolution that should accomodate everyone.

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by SensationFG8

To claim the miami sounds wimpier than the "3.9L I6"??? indicates we are being trolled.

Probably best not to feed it.

lol I wasn't kidding. Those 3.9's have lumps. Why do the new 8's have that 8 sound but sound like they're ripping it up in a tin can? New V8's sound like old V8's but through a set of headphones 1ft away from your ear. Had an EF Xr8 with 3k difilipo exhaust on it myself, while it would sound cool it sounds and have a throaty sound it was dried up with no absolutely presence.

What happened that underlying, bone shaking bass that fills the air?? They're weak as ****.

this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySRLcv9XbB4

and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYk9KA-HNgk

[HULK_I6T]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Really?

Toyata Aurion does a quarter mile run in 15.5sec, my stock XY GT did it in 14.6.....that would only about 8 to 10 car lengths ahead of the Aurion at the finish.

And yes it is sooo embaressing driving an XY GT when a Camry is driving next to me.

Dont beleive the magazine times lol. Toyota Aurion owners are actually running mid to high 14s down the quarter. Id bet they would put out more on a dyno than a stock 1970's 351 GT too being front wheel drive..

(Lets remember the F6/GT owners run mid 12s but official magazines quote low to mid 13s, these Aurions are also quicker than they appear).

Id bet if I were driving a Toyota Aurion bone stock, I would punch past a stock 1970s 351 GT down the quarter mile....any takers?

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Dont beleive the magazine times lol. Toyota Aurion owners are actually running mid to high 14s down the quarter. Id bet they would put out more on a dyno than a stock 351 GT too being front wheel drive..

(Lets remember the F6/GT owners run mid 12s but official magazines quote low to mid 13s).

Id bet if I were driving a Toyota Aurion bone stock, I would punch past a stock 1970s 351 GT down the quarter mile.

Now you really have hit an all time low Hulk...but good to see your doing a bit of fishing today.

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by futura

Can we please keep the Hulk out of this Thread?

Don’t you mean.

[HULK_I6T]

Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

Coming from the most disliked,stupidest comments, and most unhelpful guy on aff,EVER!
Do everyone a favour and just leave,dont change your name 4 times,just leave for good!

Pot... Kettle black?

have a look at your posts... dispicable

[Bent8]

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

lol I wasn't kidding. Those 3.9's have lumps. Why do the new 8's have that 8 sound but sound like they're ripping it up in a tin can? New V8's sound like old V8's but through a set of headphones 1ft away from your ear. Had an EF Xr8 with 3k difilipo exhaust on it myself, while it would sound cool it sounds and have a throaty sound it was dried up with no absolutely presence.

What happened that underlying, bone shaking bass that fills the air?? They're weak as ****.

this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySRLcv9XbB4

and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYk9KA-HNgk

Yes, a larger pushrod style V8 is always going to sound better than a smaller DOHC V8 but I would hardly go comparing them to a straight 6 !!

And um, you might wanna read the thread title mate, waaaay off topic !

[ILLaViTaR]

yes those 2 marginalizing bogans really are quite despicable.

I'd say that's not the point of a GT though my factory EB gli was quicker than a factory 351 GT. It's when it has stripes/spoilers/rims etc and sounds like a 4 when it's pulls up at the lights next to you. I guess I feel these type of v8's belong in the rice category.

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by Bent8

Yes, a larger pushrod style V8 is always going to sound better than a smaller DOHC V8 but I would hardly go comparing them to a straight 6 !!

And um, you might wanna read the thread title mate, waaaay off topic !

True they should've kept it that way! So that's why the modern LS motors still managed to keep that sound? Because it's specifically the pushrods responsible for making up that part of the note? I never knew that!

[Charliewool]

Do us all a favour pizza boy and go spew your garbage elsewhere eh?
What a bloody insult this dill is to all you guys that are waiting on your last ever GT!
Now............... **** OFF

[Franco Cozzo]

*Grabs popcorn*

Also 8500 post milestone this one right here

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Do us all a favour pizza boy and go spew your garbage elsewhere eh?
What a bloody insult this dill is to all you guys that are waiting on your last ever GT!
Now............... **** OFF

Sorry to hurt your feelings :(

[fgpsi]

Might aswell sell your GT's guys and by Toyota 86's

[Bonn]

The thread is certainly living up to it's name today.....

[ILLaViTaR]

3 marginalizing bogans now for the record.

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Do us all a favour pizza boy and go spew your garbage elsewhere eh?
What a bloody insult this dill is to all you guys that are waiting on your last ever GT!
Now............... **** OFF

All I'm saying is the 351 ricer badge is a joke but it seems some people are too touchy and can't hack anything.

I thought I put up a very good argument.

[Cashie]

I've read the latest posts in this thread and I can't work out what the argument is about....
I do find it funny that members are claiming the 351 badge shouldn't be used because output power isn't static... does it really matter?
To be fair, the car puts out substantially more than 351kW, hence what this thread is actually about.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Do us all a favour pizza boy and go spew your garbage elsewhere eh?
What a bloody insult this dill is to all you guys that are waiting on your last ever GT!
Now............... **** OFF

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Sorry to hurt your feelings :(

Relax people. Everyone has a right to their opinions. So ILLaViTaR doesnt rate the new GTF. Thats ok. He can go buy himself an old skool V8 and enjoy it. Thats why we all have choice. If he bags it, thats fine. Just let him be. It makes no difference to me about the 351 number anyway. I just want the two letters before all of the rest!

Charliewool, No GTF owner is going to be upset that their car isnt going to sound like an old skool V8 or that someone said its not a real GT. We know what we ordered, we know what we're getting. And just because someone bags the car, its water off a ducks back. Its what I've always wanted and will have. And no, I dont want an old skool V8 with the lack of safety and reliability. Whether people think of its as a real GT or not has little to do with anything.

Anyway, the 351 has been shown to be a sticker anyway, with the motor putting out much more.

[Professor Farnsworth]

If people want to know the reason behind the difference in noise between old and new V8s, refer to ADR and EURO specifications for said years and compare.

What i'm going to do now is, i'm going to close this thread. When i re-open it a little later there's to be no faeces throwing going on, and no trolling, or people are going to start being banned. There will be no warnings, this is the warning. Read this post very carefully before you continue posting.

[Professor Farnsworth]

re-opened.

[Bonn]

So back to RWKW, there's a lot of assumption regarding fixed mechanical losses, so which is more correct; FWKW = RWKW/0.75 or RWKW/0.85????

[GK]

A great result for Ford I reckon. Something to give the Holden fanboys a bit of curry over.

It will be interesting for sure to see what the Ford specific tuners get out of these magnificent engines.

I had the pleasure last week of driving a GT-E owned by a good mate. It was absolutely sensational.

GK

[Bent8]

Originally Posted by Bonn

So back to RWKW, there's a lot of assumption regarding fixed mechanical losses, so which is more correct; FWKW = RWKW/0.75 or RWKW/0.85????

Our Ford's are between 18-20% but the GTS maybe as high as 25% because of the beefed-up power train.

Mustangs (live axle) average around 12-15% so there are a lot variations based on driveline layout..

Have also heard that high horsepower cars usually have less driveline losses.

[Bonn]

Originally Posted by Bent8

Our Ford's are between 18-20% but the GTS maybe as high as 25% because of the beefed power train.

Mustangs (live axle) average around 12-15% so there are a lot variations based on driveline layout..

Thanks Bent8 - more to it than just a number.......
Appreciated.

[irish2]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Dont beleive the magazine times lol. Toyota Aurion owners are actually running mid to high 14s down the quarter. Id bet they would put out more on a dyno than a stock 1970's 351 GT too being front wheel drive..

(Lets remember the F6/GT owners run mid 12s but official magazines quote low to mid 13s, these Aurions are also quicker than they appear).

Id bet if I were driving a Toyota Aurion bone stock, I would punch past a stock 1970s 351 GT down the quarter mile....any takers?

I have seen several stock stroke 351's run 10's. Never seen a Camry go that quick.

[XR Martin]

Good sounding small dohc v8...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQX3cOAbes

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Good sounding small dohc v8...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQX3cOAbes

Gotta love the sound of the kenne bell blowers

[shaness8]

Originally Posted by irish2

I have seen several stock stroke 351's run 10's. Never seen a Camry go that quick.

Go watch some NASCAR plenty quick Camry's there.