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06-05-2014, 10:04 PM | #211 | ||
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Just stick a 10% consumption tax on all on-line sales - especially for offshore sales (attach it to the payment method) and generate plenty of income/tax for the economy. Consumers will still save, but will need to factor in the amount when buying/bidding/whatever, a bit like postage, and Sellers won't feel a thing and the government gets the benefit of a tax they are currently missing out on.
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06-05-2014, 11:00 PM | #212 | ||
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06-05-2014, 11:23 PM | #213 | ||
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Kevin Rudd gave handouts of 900 bucks....
Joe Hockey wants a levy to pay back the 900 bucks... The people voted Kevin out and voted Joe in... Hello....the people got the government they voted for. You work hard like a good little proletariat employee and whine about the rorts that companies have? Nobody cares, this is a private enterprise economy, employees are expendible... Don't like it? Start your own company and get the perks too.... |
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06-05-2014, 11:34 PM | #214 | |||
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My last job I was on 83 000 a year, now with this new budget I really don't want to earn that again. I'd rather earn under the 70 000 mark as you get better child endowment payments and pay less tax. Don't have to worry about the medicare levy either, so we'll probably be better off. Because at the moment our private healthcare's $157 a fortnight. I worked it out the other day for the amount we have used it. Over the last 6 years we'd be better of putting that money away and pay full price for our medical bills. Plus there's so much other bonus the government gives you for not being in that high tax bracket, like school kids bonus etc. So unless your up the top end of that bracket, it's not worth being in that bracket if you only make it by a few grand. |
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06-05-2014, 11:42 PM | #215 | |||
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When I was growing up in the 1990s there were times where my old man could barely afford to put fuel in his crappy XE Falcon (and later an even worse EA Falcon on LPG) and food on the table as he was the only one working as Mum was looking after me and my sister at home, Mum was even making our clothes at one stage. We didn't really go out much, as we couldn't afford to and we never went on "holidays" up until 2011 was our first family holiday, in my life time I'd only been across the border into NSW once, Phillip Island on a school camp in 2008 and then the first time ever on a holiday in 2011 on a cruise with my parents (Their last holiday was their Honeymoon in the early 1980s). Dad still managed to get us into a new house in 1994 in the Macedon Ranges and we're still there, they really struggled but we survived and we got through it all on one wage, the old man being the bread winner. It is possible to bring up a family on a single wage these days and some people here are doing it, my parents did. I wouldn't change anything if I could go back in time and effect the outcome of how it turned out, I might not have been on holidays every year across the country, we only had 1 car up until 1999 until Mum got hers but it made us the people we are today and I have a really good relationship with both of my parents. I don't plan on having kids because I don't really want to make those sacrifices to be honest and I wouldn't be a good parent. Also when you're on Newstart, out of a job, plenty of people are willing to kick you when you're down but they don't realise the barriers faced by unemployed people to get back into any kind of work in 2014, its not like the 1970s where you could walk out of one place then into the next and start the next day. Then I'm sure the others here can tell you the issues with the system, theres people who want the work but can't get it, then theres the ones who don't want the work but because they're long term unemployed they get the training and benefits, the others just get a piece of paper to sign and told to come to these meetings to sign more papers to still get no help or your payments will get cut. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 07-05-2014 at 12:02 AM. |
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06-05-2014, 11:45 PM | #216 | ||
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I just like the way we have 8 pages of people panicking about Politicians on a propaganda wagon.
Previous Govt's of both sides of politics have done this before. Shortly before a budget they say they're going to increase tax say, 50%. Then when the tax is only increased 25% the punters think they've had a win.
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07-05-2014, 01:16 AM | #217 | |||
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07-05-2014, 03:28 AM | #218 | ||
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Free is not Free!
Free medical is not free Free education is not free Free solar power is not free Free housing is not free Free money (the dole, pension, family benefits) is not free Free work (working as a public servant) is not free Free childcare is not free Free disability care is not free Free legal aid is not free the list goes on and on.... I get the impression people enjoy having amongst the highest tax rates in the world, having local business close their doors and engineering a not so bright future for our kids, because that's what "free" means. |
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07-05-2014, 04:40 AM | #219 | |||
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07-05-2014, 05:48 AM | #220 | ||
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Well after reading the last 8 pages it turns out i might be rich , but if that was the case then there must be some seriously poor ******* around....
That's not a swipe at the genuinely poor either, but aimed squarely at those that are to lazy to put in the hard yards to make life better for themselves and those that rely on them, yet demand those that have pay more so it can be distributed to them!!......the era of entitlement for sure!
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07-05-2014, 06:11 AM | #221 | ||
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Interesting that even former treasurer Peter Costello doesn't agree with the proposed 'debt tax'
I suspect that fact will be ignored by Liberals though now despite them touting his as 'worlds best' prior to his shafting by his party's own leader. |
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07-05-2014, 07:43 AM | #222 | |||
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What Tax rate are you refering to? http://comparativetaxation.treasury....ve_Summary.asp
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07-05-2014, 09:17 AM | #223 | |||
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If you look at the "Raw" data which is in chart 3, we are in the top 50% percentile for taxation. Also, if you look at the data for Sweden, which someone said in a previous post as to a country we should look at, their Value Added Tax another form of GST is 25%, a lot more than our 10% that everyone cried about when it was brought in. |
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07-05-2014, 10:50 AM | #224 | ||
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Debt tax on 80,000 income earners anddddddd it's gone unless u earn 150,000 a year
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07-05-2014, 11:03 AM | #225 | |||
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Looks around, our fundamentals are screwed and our high tax regime is partly at fault. I know this is water under the bridge but if those billions spent on pink batts and BER had instead been passed through as % tax rate cuts, I think we'd all be better off, the economy more productive and in a lot less in debt. Last edited by cheap; 07-05-2014 at 11:09 AM. |
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07-05-2014, 11:40 AM | #226 | ||
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How about have the dole as a no interest loan that you have to pay back eventually or you end up in jail?
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07-05-2014, 11:57 AM | #227 | ||
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07-05-2014, 12:00 PM | #228 | ||
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Paid in monthly installments, first twelve months grace then start thinking about paying it back or starting to bulk up.
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07-05-2014, 12:01 PM | #229 | ||
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Umm, I believe that there are a LOT of people who are on the dole for life (along with their kids)
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07-05-2014, 12:03 PM | #230 | ||
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Exactly because there is no repercussions for a life of stealing off tax payers.
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07-05-2014, 12:46 PM | #231 | |||
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so like me , you agree that the things we pay for with taxes , should stay |
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07-05-2014, 12:51 PM | #232 | |||
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. maybe i might buy all the roads instead , and if you dont like the tolls i charge , you can buy all the roads off me . or maybe i might buy the electricity supply , and if you think i'm too costly supplying you electricity , you can buy an electrical supply company too . i think all 22 000 000 of us should do this . |
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07-05-2014, 01:01 PM | #233 | ||
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I forgot to include in my list of savings: absolutely no govt funding of non govt. (for cheap that includes religious) schools
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07-05-2014, 02:06 PM | #234 | |||
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Many on this Forum would buckle when a post they made was shown to be a rectal pluck! Not you, no no. It's a conspiracy by treasury
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07-05-2014, 02:59 PM | #235 | |||
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The only problem with it was some was spent on businesses: non govt schools. But that's the power religions and private schools have over both sides of politics |
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07-05-2014, 03:55 PM | #236 | ||
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Keep the compliments coming, but ease off on the backhanded theme
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07-05-2014, 05:12 PM | #237 | |||
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This is the same department which backed up Swan's +200 "there will be a surplus", this is the same department with Ken Henry and his smoke and mirrors tax plan. The other sides point of view: https://www.taxpayers.org.au/who-we-are/ Last edited by cheap; 07-05-2014 at 05:41 PM. |
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07-05-2014, 05:27 PM | #238 | |||
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I read most charts and Australia is in the middle except on tax on ordinary bank accounts and capital gains on shares and direct company tax. the rest is average or below average. JP |
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07-05-2014, 05:33 PM | #239 | |||
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Secretary to the Treasury Ken Henry 'Treasury conducts its analysis without government interference. It's up to the government of the day to decide whether to accept that analysis or whether to reject that analysis' They have nothing to gain from their analysis yet the lobby group you offer as an alternative does have something to gain from their stance and action. I have a policy not to trust those with more to gain than me. JP |
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07-05-2014, 05:57 PM | #240 | ||
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Treasury have nothing to gain? Nothing at all, let me think that through...
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