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04-11-2014, 02:39 PM | #211 | ||
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I don't have an issue giving cyclists room. What drives me insane is the cyclists who ride through traffic to get to the front of the lights- then you get stuck behind them till you can safely pass them. Because you are held up you often miss the next lights. And so they pass you again. And so the circus continues up the road. Why are they so impatient that they cannot wait in the queue with the other road users? If they did this you would only pass them once. Isn't that the dangerous part they have had to write laws on? Why not remove half of the dangerous events by just waiting your turn?
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04-11-2014, 02:45 PM | #212 | ||
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I have personal insurance for when I ride. Covers up to 5mil in damages and injury. Well worth it for the peace of mind knowing not only am I covering myself but others too be it cyclists or drivers. I would hate it if I knew I was at fault and did not at least provide the minimum cover for others I may have contributed in injuring at the scene of an accident.
I believe it should be compulsory for parents to provide cover for their children (on bikes) on public footpaths, and public roads where no cycling track is provided. I also believe it should be mandatory if not penalized for any driver to not have the minimum CTP cover for ANY damage or injury to others including property. The amount of times I hear people who drive vehicles with zero insurance scares me, and it's becoming all too common, yet you hear nothing about it in the tabloids. Why should I be using my comprehensive insurance to cover F-wits who are too stingy to not bother? If you cant afford to get the very minimum/basic insurance you should not be on the roads/paths, cyclists included. Back on topic, agree that personal and public liability insurance is a must for cyclists.
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04-11-2014, 02:50 PM | #213 | |||
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I am a cyclist and hate it as well - nothing worse than a cyclist that thinks they are a motorcyclist. I always stay in my spot like a car - and in stop start city traffic I can hold my spot, just like a car as the speed isn't that high. Doing so not only prevents ****ing motorists off, it also means less cars passing me so win win Sadly too few cyclists, just like most road users think it is all about them and them only, stuff everyone esle. |
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04-11-2014, 06:52 PM | #214 | ||||
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agree as well. i also hold my spot in the queue if there is no bike lane. mind you, i don't tend to ride a lot in peak hour type traffic, so i'm never really mixing it up with long lines of cars. |
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04-11-2014, 07:03 PM | #215 | ||
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I saw a cyclist pulled over by an unmarked popo after work today, cyclist passed me and the unmarked in front of me (I hadn't even noticed it was a cop lol) then moved directly in front of the cop and did that balancing act they do when don't wanna unclip their feet. Soon as the lights went green the cop put his lights and siren on, I nearly crappered myself.
Would love to have heard that conversation. |
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04-11-2014, 07:52 PM | #216 | ||
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I don't have a problem with cyclists using the roads if they wish, but im buggered if I can understand why they want to.
Im a truck driver. Every day I see stupidity on the roads amongst car/bike/truck traffic, im damned if I'd ride amongst it all just because I can. Just yesterday I sat front row whilst a hybrid Camry driven by an Indian chap went toe to toe with a b double carting fuel on Adelaide's busiest road. No one cares anymore, everyone is in a hurry and the only considerations are for themselves. 10 years ago I sat for my motorcycle license, I sold my new ZZR before it had 2000k's on it as the close encounters from ignorant motorists turned me off real quick. I recently jumped back on the bike but only on designated bike paths, when you see first hand daily what your dealing with its not worth the risk to go out on the road. My 2c. |
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05-11-2014, 09:09 AM | #217 | ||
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http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au...line-/2443076/
It's getting nasty.............
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05-11-2014, 10:33 AM | #219 | ||
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In some cases riding more than 2 abreast is legal in Vic
this is from Vicroads Bike riders must not ride alongside more than one other rider in a single marked lane or on any part of a road that is not a multi-lane road unless the bike rider is overtaking another bike rider. On multi-lane roads, bike riders cannot (as stated) ride more than two abreast in any single marked lane on that road (unless, as stated, overtaking another bike rider) but may ride more than two abreast across multiple lanes. If riding in the same marked lane (and regardless of whether the road is a multi-lane road or any other sort of road), bike riders in that marked lane must not ride more than 1.5 metres apart. Tip: When riding two abreast please consider other road users and, if necessary, change to single file to allow drivers to overtake safely. Drivers – only overtake when it is safe and legal to do so. After overtaking, make sure you are well clear of the bike riders before moving back.
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05-11-2014, 06:39 PM | #220 | |||
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have the awareness to recognise when vehicles are around and single up. its not that difficult. the groups that i ride with make a very conscious effort to do this, with the call of 'car back' or such like when vehicles are approaching. this has been mentioned a few times already, its about respect. if you want some, you need to show some. |
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05-11-2014, 07:03 PM | #221 | ||
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That's the bit that irritates the drivers..............
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05-11-2014, 09:42 PM | #222 | |||
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Saw one a few weeks ago pass in between everyone at the lights then pull in front of the car in the left lane at the front of the lights. Seconds later that left arrow goes green while the straight light stays red. The front 2 or 3 cars were turning left, but the cyclist just sat there blocking them. I swear he had no idea or at least no care that the cars he just cut in front of were now held up. |
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06-11-2014, 12:06 PM | #223 | |||
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That's all I ask of a cyclist.
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06-11-2014, 12:15 PM | #224 | ||
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And that is exactly what the vast majority of cyclists do. I tell you one thing though I have started to do it less, as if I am as polite as possible and stick as left as possible lots of dimwits do not move an inch in their lane and thus cut so close to me that it is very alarming and rude. If I am less polite and force cars to move in their lane around me they seem to show me more courtesy.... A bit of a conundrum there really...
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06-11-2014, 05:04 PM | #225 | |||
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14-11-2014, 03:53 PM | #226 | |||
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How ridiculous does that look? |
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14-11-2014, 04:06 PM | #227 | ||
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Need to shortcut the whole system and just register all people for public liability insurance.
Cue the Australia card.... |
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14-11-2014, 04:38 PM | #228 | |||
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14-11-2014, 05:20 PM | #232 | ||
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Exactly. I was using the cyclists main argument against them. I do agree with it from both side. I'm just bitter about it because I have been abused by cyclists on road bikes for riding my mountain bike too slow on a shared cycle way/pedestrian walkway. The guys that abused my mate and I probably get upset when cars beep him for going to slow. Seen a few get annoyed with 'slow' pedestrians on the same pathway. |
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14-11-2014, 05:29 PM | #234 | |||
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14-11-2014, 06:40 PM | #235 | |||
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14-11-2014, 08:21 PM | #236 | ||
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I just read, the inventor of that helmet isnt even a cyclist, doesnt own a bike.
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14-11-2014, 09:03 PM | #237 | ||
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the whole idea of a helmet in any sport, is to protect your head. i think the designer has forgotten the main function.
there's no way that would get approval. hope he didn't waste too much of his time. clearly he has plenty spare. having said that, i would be more than happy to wear identification. just don't call it 'rego' as that seems to upset most cyclists. if its ok for cyclists to video motorists doing illegal acts, and getting them convicted, then its only fair that i'm also able to be identified. this wouldn't change the way i ride though, as i don't tend to ride illegally. |
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15-11-2014, 08:36 PM | #238 | ||
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The other day he 7pm project had a guy on who'd been road raged bad by an idiot motorist. He'd rammed the cyclist. So I thought man that's harsh. Then I noticed on his camera replay he had on his bike......HE WAS RIDING BY HIMSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD
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16-11-2014, 03:11 PM | #240 | |||
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Yes I know motor vehicle drivers are the same but it's a much, much lower percentage. |
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