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Not around here in the morning, 2deg last night.
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Did anyone watch ScoMo’s presser yesterday. Here is the summary.
First 5 minutes telling us nothing most people didn’t already know, then 5 minutes explaining 2 pie charts that no one could read let alone had time to understand (nonsense waffle), then switched over to some other minister (more waffle), then back to him for another 2 minutes (waffle), then over to someone else. He then took questions from media Q “when will Australia re-open” A “I’m really proud of the Australian federal system, ask the premiers...” OMFG what a waste of time. |
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Australia had 25 (24) new cases yesterday of which 17 were in Victoria, 3 in NSW and 5 in Queensland. With 1 death recorded the CMR is up to 1.402% but the cases are down to 12.6%.
New Zealand actually recorded -1 case and no deaths so the CMR went up fractionally and active cases dropped to 13.3%. The UK went the wrong way again with 4,400 new cases almost 700 deaths. The CMR rose again to 15.092% while active cases rose to 82.7%. The USA saw a slight decrease in both CMR (5.765%) and active cases (77.4%) but also surpassed 70,000 deaths.
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So why bother destroying the economy to protect people who have those requests?
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CDC's update overnight to the 5th of May 39,910 presumed deaths. It's important to emphasise presumed, read the fine print below the numbers. ![]()
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Assuming this is the link you are referring to? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm Quote:
So what does this say? It's says the numbers are not current and can lag up to 8 weeks. If you want current data you probably need to go state by state, where NY is reporting 19K deaths, or to a source that is tracking in more real time. NY data from their .gov website. https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov...r=no&%3Atabs=n Also, this is pretty good https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/cumulative-cases
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1. The numbers of COVID-19 deaths. 2. The number of presumed COVID-19 deaths. 3. Anyone with COVID-19 at time of death is counted as a from COVI-19 death. Once you understand how the hospital administrators in the US work you'll know why they want the numbers inflated. It's all about the Benjamins for them.
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So dying with Covid, and presumed Covid deaths, are the same as actual COVID-19 deaths? Pull the other one, it whistles dixie.
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Straight from CDC website;
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ses-in-us.html "Confirmed & Probable Cases As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement pdf iconexternal iconissued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease." https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.cste.org/r...1_COVID-19.pdf What's obtuse.....
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The graphs today look at the age distribution of Australian cases both in raw number and as a rate per 100k of population in those age groups as well as the age groups where deaths have been recorded.
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So far from using your noodle and deducing you are just following all the conspiracy nutters and repeating what they are sprouting. Every single thing you have posted in this thread is just regurgitated tripe that you have picked up from conservative/ tin foil hat / nutter websites and youtube channels. So far from being clever and "deducing" and using your "noodle" you are just being told what to think and you think it. And I am not even trying to change your mind. I know the sort of person you are and you will only believe what you are wanting to believe. The only reason I am responding to you is in the hope that someone else doesn't accept what you post as fact. The sort of rubbish you post in here is incredibly stupid...
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So why is a different opinion trolling? I want to find an answer to an argument/discussion you were having and you thought I was trolling. Is everyone who doesn't toe the approved narrative or disagrees with you a troll???
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In the WTF and practice what you preach category
The scientist whose advice prompted Boris Johnson to lock down Britain resigned from his Government advisory position on Tuesday night as The Telegraph can reveal he broke social distancing rules to meet his married lover. Professor Neil Ferguson allowed the woman to visit him at home during the lockdown while lecturing the public on the need for strict social distancing in order to reduce the spread of coronavirus. The woman lives with her husband and their children in another house. The epidemiologist leads the team at Imperial College London that produced the computer-modelled research that led to the national lockdown, which claimed that more than 500,000 Britons would die without the measures. Prof Ferguson has frequently appeared in the media to support the lockdown and praised the "very intensive social distancing" measures. ... On at least two occasions, Antonia Staats, 38, travelled across London from her home in the south of the capital to spend time with the Government scientist, nicknamed Professor Lockdown. The 51-year-old had only just finished a two-week spell self-isolating after testing positive for coronavirus. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...igns-breaking/ |
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Disregarding the doctors worldwide that are endorsing treatment therapies or being whistleblowers on the strange circumstances and narratives around death certificates in the US and UK because the only platform they can get is away from MSM is incredibly closed minded. |
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
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As you say, if enough “nutters“ post and disseminate their tripe, it ends up being “fact”. It’s not, it’s garbage, but the internet is the perfect Platform for this rubbish 👎 I’m sure there is some conspiracy about a “pizza shop” being the root cause of this too. |
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Socialists don’t like alternative opinions opposing the official narrative.
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As a socialist, I disagree!
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i posted a video from project veratas, where all deaths are covid with out testing.. (doctors/coroners complaints)
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And I would urge people to do some simple research on Project Veritas to put into context what they write.
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I believe most other countries. Places the the UK, Spain, Germany, Italy.. the list goes on. They all say this is dead set serious Who does the narrative that you talk of benefit. It is destroying everything and every government. Nothing good will come of this virus for any part of the globe. Not sure what treatments you talk of. I am sure if any had merit then they would be tried out. Why wouldn't various agencies try out treatments if they worked? What is your theory on why:- - Governments are over reporting stats? - Doctors are being ignored? Who's the puppeteer?
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It’s not. Smart educated people need to be sceptical about so called “facts“. There is no conspiracy, there is just reality. |
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