Skyline - XR8 - XR6Turbo (which ones quicker?)

[OzButcher]

I was at the lights today, behind 2 Nissan Skylines... one was about a 1998 and the other a few yrs older. When the lights went green they were off! Surprisingly the old one kicked ***...

So my question is for anyone who is familiar with the performance of these vehicles in stock... Is the XR8 or the XR6 turbo faster?

[Aussie_Geo]

Originally Posted by OzButcher

I was at the lights today, behind 2 Nissan Skylines... one was about a 1998 and the other a few yrs older. When the lights went green they were off! Surprisingly the old one kicked ***... and my XR6 couldnt keep up.

So my question is for anyone who is familiar with the performance of these vehicles in stock... Is the XR8 or the XR6 turbo faster?

Check out the Current edition of Motor.... your answer is there :hihi: :hihi: :sm_headba

Peter

[Polyal]

mate if all is stock you will stay behind. If its the 6 speed auto, the XR8 should be quicker to 100, but I would say the XR6T would pip it over the 1/4.

Both cars are quick enough.

[Aeron]

My bet is that the Skylines weren't stockers. A Skyline with a bit more boost will run low 14's, like a stock XR6T.

[TEaaron]

According to the dealer at ford the xr6 is lighter anf performs better, quicker acceleration but over the 1/4 mile the xr8 wins.

[CAMS290]

In my experience a XR6T is faster than a R34 GTS-T, an XR8 is probably on par.

Start talking GTR Skylines, bye bye XR6T and XR8 in stock form.

I love hosing ricers in their GTS-T's whenever i can.

[Scott]

If they were stock, you'd do em convincingly. Having lived in Syd for some time I ate many a Skyline in my EF 5.0ltr. I had an N/A XR6 and it was considerably quicker than the Fairmont when we lined them up on private roads, under controlled conditions, on a sunny day, with a paramedic & fire unit onsite. Oh, and a helmet

[Polyal]

There is no way that a ef is going to beat a turbo skyline of any nature..the driver must have been a doush bag.

Xr8 should win as they have more low down, but as I said, once the xr6t huffs up it will win.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Polyal

There is no way that a ef is going to beat a turbo skyline of any nature..the driver must have been a doush bag.

Who said turbo?

[Aeron]

Yeh, the N/A Skyline are crap. I've seen one race an auto EF at the runs and Skyline got killed.

[Polyal]

oh well I could probably beat a n/a skyline off the lights in my GF's barina......turbo and skyline + performance is implied.

[Aaron_EF8]

There is no way that a ef is going to beat a turbo skyline of any nature..the driver must have been a doush bag.

Hmmm, I've beaten plenty of turbo Skylines in my car, they are not fast cars off boost, esp. the R32.

Originally Posted by OzButcher

I was at the lights today, behind 2 Nissan Skylines... one was about a 1998 and the other a few yrs older. When the lights went green they were off! Surprisingly the old one kicked ***...

So my question is for anyone who is familiar with the performance of these vehicles in stock... Is the XR8 or the XR6 turbo faster?

Its a known fact that R32s were faster than the heavier R33s. R34 performance is on par with the R32s.

Thing is that most Skylines are not stock, as the engine and the rest of the driveline is really overengineered. Making more power is as simple as winding up the boost.

[MightyXR6Turbo]

Originally Posted by Polyal

There is no way that a ef is going to beat a turbo skyline of any nature..the driver must have been a doush bag.

Xr8 should win as they have more low down, but as I said, once the xr6t huffs up it will win.

Not standard anyway, I can vouch for the fact that my particular EF can dispatch of an R33 with out much of an issue. Of course, if they put a big front mount on, and some other minor mods, that will be the end of that

[Polyal]

I thought we where talking stock here...I know turbo skylines are not immortal, but stock falcons are not going to hassle them.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

Hmmm, I've beaten plenty of turbo Skylines in my car, they are not fast cars off boost, esp. the R32.

Saved me typing it lol!

BTW - I'd back any stock BA XR (N/A incl) over a stock R33 GTS25t. Would have been a good match up when R33 was new though.

[Dave_au]

If its anything with a turbo and north of a GTS-T, then the Fords will struggle.

The skylines have an international reputation for a reason, either stock or modified. The same cannot be said for our fords - yet (dave_au gives a nudge to the typhoon)

GMH8TR, no offense, but Magna Vrx's are known for getting ahead of 5L ELs.

[Aeron]

A stock XR6T will beat a Stock GTS-T, no question.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Dave_au

If its anything with a turbo and north of a GTS-T, then the Fords will struggle.

The skylines have an international reputation for a reason, either stock or modified. The same cannot be said for our fords - yet (dave_au gives a nudge to the typhoon)

GMH8TR, no offense, but Magna Vrx's are known for getting ahead of 5L ELs.

lol, so are some EA's with 5spd's!

[macca_779]

A GTR will destroy a stock XR6-T

[clontarf_x]

Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

Hmmm, I've beaten plenty of turbo Skylines in my car, they are not fast cars off boost, esp. the R32.

Spot on. It's well documented people traffic-light dragging R32 and 33's and having the nose in front until the skylines hit about 2.5-3k (boost)

The turbo is their only saviour. Now imagine the AU VCT Turboed VS Skyline T...

That would be an interesting watch..

[FPVWEPN]

Originally Posted by Polyal

There is no way that a ef is going to beat a turbo skyline of any nature..the driver must have been a doush bag.

I beg to differ

[Scott]

Originally Posted by macca_779

A GTR will destroy a stock XR6-T

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[Kenster]

I think in compares it will come down to weight ratios and how much thing are weighting down the car and how fast the car would kick in the power

[vegabass]

All amateurs!

Bring on the BMW M3 or M5's!

That in stock form is impressive.

[Big_Fella]

i have a mag around here some where, i'll start too look for it soon, because im sure i'll be flamed for this, but they tested the r32, r33, and r34 and the r32 was quicker down the quarter. (all turbo versions and the weight was the overall contributing factor for the r32) and having said that, i do believe the times they posted are as fast as if not faster than the xr6-t. not sure about the xr8, but id bet they'ed beat it too. Im talking all stock here (im sure you are too) I'll definately look for the mag so bare with me. Im more than happy to be proven wrong too. Its not like im a huge fan off jap stuff but you did ask what the go was. Yeah these jap things are crap off boost, but so is the turbo xr in comparison. id have to say, and im deffinatly not bagging ford or the xr's, i think they are great, but most 6's in relation to 'Omph' are not that great when N/A. Ive driven both xr6-t and xr6 N/A and had a crack at a r32 so i do have an idea of what they are like stock.

[Big_Fella]

Originally Posted by Kenter

I think in compares it will come down to weight ratios and how much thing are weighting down the car and how fast the car would kick in the power

yeah very true, thats why id think the skylines have an edge, i believe they weigh less and produce comparable hp. Also the xr8 produces power in a different way to a turbo 6 engine, so i dont think it'd have much of shot but again im more than happy to be proven wrong...
Im not here to start flame wars, just putting in my 2c

[Scott]

R32 GTS - 155bhp @ 5200rpm, 184nm @ 5200rpm
R33 GTS25t - 250bhp @ 6400rpm, 294nm @ 4800rpm 1350 odd kg's

[Kenster]

Originally Posted by Big_Fella

yeah very true, thats why id think the skylines have an edge, i believe they weigh less and produce comparable hp. Also the xr8 produces power in a different way to a turbo 6 engine, so i dont think it'd have much of shot but again im more than happy to be proven wrong...
Im not here to start flame wars, just putting in my 2c

weight and power does play a huge impact on a car. As much I love my Ford i got to admit i have been impress with some jap cars from what i have heard or seen on the streets.

With compare of XR6T and XR6 in ute form the XR6T will cane the XR8 with the turbo kicking at a very short rpm while XR8 need to use all the cyclindar as much possible. But compares with sedan very hard due cause it all count on weight ratio and how fast each car fully kick in the power the earlier the power kicks in the more distance you will make.

[Big_Fella]

i am trying to locate this mag, but so far unsucessfull. It was a Performance import one, and it was a Skyline special i believe.