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Old 03-09-2016, 09:16 AM   #1
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FORD and Holden bounced back last month — as Hyundai sales hit reverse after the Korean brand’s discounts stopped and prices went up.
The two former Aussie favourites, Holden and Ford, are back near the top of the sales charts as Korean car maker Hyundai slipped to fifth, its lowest ranking so far this year.
Hyundai had been leading Holden for the first seven months of 2016 and previously had the top-selling car.
But sales of the Hyundai i30 have dropped by a staggering 75 per cent from their recent peak.
Toyota and Mazda still top the new-car market but Holden and Ford ranked close behind in August, according to preliminary figures shared confidentially among the car industry.
The Toyota Corolla was Australia’s favourite car for the second month in a row — after the Hyundai i30 led the market earlier in the year driven by a $7000 discount.
The Toyota Corolla was Australia’s top selling car in August. Picture: Supplied.
The Toyota Corolla was Australia’s top selling car in August. Picture: Supplied.Source:Supplied
The Toyota HiLux ute leads car sales outright year-to-date, narrowly ahead of the Corolla.
Toyota and Mazda are maintaining their dominance of Australian new-car sales despite a lack of heavy discounting, while Holden and Ford are enjoying strong sales based on the arrival of new models.
But discount brand Hyundai is proving it cannot maintain sales growth when it attempts to charge full retail prices for its cars.

“When the discounts come off, sales stop,” said the dealer principal for a leading metropolitan Hyundai showroom, who asked to remain anonymous.
“Buyers are wising up to the fact these deals come and go, so they stay away until the offers return.”
Another Hyundai dealer, who also asked to remain anonymous because dealers are advised by Hyundai Australia not to discuss company business with the media, said intermittent heavy discounting was “bad for customers and bad for our business”.
“When you go from selling more than 100 cars one month to 30 the next, it makes it hard to keep full time staff employed,” said the veteran car dealer. “Hyundai likes to make out that it can compete with Toyota and the big guns, but in reality it’s a discount brand.”
The dealer said “some months, buyers pay more while in other months they pay much less, and that obviously upsets people who paid the higher price”.
Sales of the Hyundai i30 fell by a staggering 75 per cent once discounts stopped. Picture: Supplied.
Sales of the Hyundai i30 fell by a staggering 75 per cent once discounts stopped. Picture: Supplied.Source:Supplied
When the Hyundai i30 hatchback was $19,990 drive-away with automatic transmission, more than 6400 examples were sold in June — the highest monthly tally of any car for 11 years.
But in August just 1800 Hyundai i30 hatchbacks were reported as sold — and Hyundai sales overall as a brand were down by a staggering 45 per cent in August, the largest slump among the Top 10, according to the preliminary figures.
Hyundai declined to comment on the Korean car company’s recent sales slowdown, and on claims of dealer dissatisfaction.
Official new-car sales figures for August are due to be published Monday.
Contrary to public perception, new-car sales figures are not based on actual vehicle registrations, they are cars “declared or reported as sold” by dealers and the car companies.
Top 10 car brands in August
Toyota 18,600
Mazda 9200
Holden 7600
Ford 6800
Hyundai 6500
Mitsubishi 6100
Nissan 5600
Volkswagen 4200
Kia 3700
Subaru 3300
Top 10 cars in August
Toyota Corolla 3500
Toyota HiLux 3300
Ford Ranger 2900
Mazda3 2800
Toyota Camry 2400
Holden Commodore 1900
Mazda CX-5 1900
Hyundai i30 1800
Toyota RAV4 1700
Hyundai Tucson 1600
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:10 PM   #2
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What?Falcon isn't #1? Well il be..........
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i30 is $19,990 again...
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Australians sure do have a love affair with Toyotas
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Australians sure do have a love affair with Toyotas
Most people see cars as inanimate objects. They want something that will get the job done with little fuss or fanfare. For a lot of people Toyota fits their needs.
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Ooh trouble in paradise...
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You did mean "White goods"?
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The Toyota sales are double Mazda sales !! Toyota must be doing something right??? What..?? It will be interesting to see Fords 6800 sales breakdown. I presume its the Ranger thats holding the fort for Ford Australia...
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The Toyota sales are double Mazda sales !! Toyota must be doing something right??? What..?? It will be interesting to see Fords 6800 sales breakdown. I presume its the Ranger thats holding the fort for Ford Australia...
In many ways it is what is holding Ford in this country together,without it,well...... Cheers
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i30 is $19,990 again...
but not with free auto - which was their EOFY offerings when they were smashing it
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Corolla consistently isn't ranked even close to being best vehicle in class yet is always top of the list. To add to this, Camry sells nearly as much as Falcon and Commodore combined. Both reliable yet awful, awful cars compared to what else is on the market in the same price range.

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Corolla consistently isn't ranked even close to being best vehicle in class yet is always top of the list. To add to this, Camry sells nearly as much as Falcon and Commodore combined. Both reliable yet awful, awful cars compared to what else is on the market in the same price range.

I'm giving up on humanity.
What is it that is so awful about Camry and Corolla compared to other cars?

I sat in a Camry the other day and was quite impressed by what it offered the occupants for a reasonable price.
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What is it that is so awful about Camry and Corolla compared to other cars?

I sat in a Camry the other day and was quite impressed by what it offered the occupants for a reasonable price.
Begrudgingly agreed. But the stigma of models previous seems to linger on. Personally I would never own or drive a Camry after experiencing the worst performing, most bland, least equipped, and least longevity car (1997-2001 Camry), even if the latest one is the best and greatest in its class.
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Can you imagine the pain if Toyota had some sportier Corolla's etc....

Corolla's have a history of some "hotter" versions too.
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What is it that is so awful about Camry and Corolla compared to other cars?

I sat in a Camry the other day and was quite impressed by what it offered the occupants for a reasonable price.
Gotta agree mate, i've been in Hybrid Camrys a few times and quite impressed with them.

Latest Toyota i've had is a new Kluger, based on the Camry platform. I have a MY15 Grand Cherokee and the Kluger, although spartan compared to the GC, is a superior drive and the GC is based on the Merc ML350 platform and runs the latest and greatest ZF 8 speeder.
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What is it that is so awful about Camry and Corolla compared to other cars?

I sat in a Camry the other day and was quite impressed by what it offered the occupants for a reasonable price.
After driving a corolla a few times....they seriously are dull.
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After driving a corolla a few times....they seriously are dull.
Camry is not much better I can tell you.They are as inspiring as watching the grass growing.Cheers
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The Monthly (graphical) Sales Stats for August are now uploaded to the Tech portal.

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717 Mustangs is a pretty handy number
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