LPI Dual Fuel Cleaveland Tuning

[EBSXR6]

Video runs for 37:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sa9Ffwb9xQ

[Franco Cozzo]

That was impressive, it's good to see a very experienced Ford Australia engineer working his magic now in the aftermarket, I love watching that guy explain things, he is so passionate.

LPG is like witchcraft and a tightly held secret amongst those in the know, this is probably the most information publicly available I've seen on LPG.

Those LPG injectors really are power hungry bastards, it's putting a huge amount of electrical load on the EMS, no wonder they left it at 8 injectors, still 389KW at the wheels on a fuel that costs 82 cents/L and is cleaner out the exhaust pipe is epic.

I feel like using LPG in my BBQ is an absolute waste of a good fuel

[Vesper Martini]

I really feel like the Automotive industry is missing something with LPG.
we plugged away with aftermarket systems at a cost but it was only the last Falcons that had a proper system, even then it could have been better. an engine designed from scratch for LPG was never made.
All this drive to improve the environment, and we had a clean fuel to offer for little cost
the mind boggles

[Vesper Martini]

What about this performance upgrade on this Duramax - warning its a cheesy vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay1VlDfT334

PS they also had to do a trans upgrade to handle the power so its big $$$

[EBSXR6]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

I really feel like the Automotive industry is missing something with LPG.
we plugged away with aftermarket systems at a cost but it was only the last Falcons that had a proper system, even then it could have been better. an engine designed from scratch for LPG was never made.
All this drive to improve the environment, and we had a clean fuel to offer for little cost
the mind boggles

What I am not happy about is Ford DeTuned the ECOLPI.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

I really feel like the Automotive industry is missing something with LPG.
we plugged away with aftermarket systems at a cost but it was only the last Falcons that had a proper system, even then it could have been better. an engine designed from scratch for LPG was never made.
All this drive to improve the environment, and we had a clean fuel to offer for little cost
the mind boggles

My opinion on the matter was the damage was done by the automotive aftermarket with dodgy conversions, old 1940s mixer ring technology with poor performance, backfiring then the few people with an understanding have done their best to keep information out of public domain.

By the time Ford Australia and also Holden came out with factory setups, particularly Holden SVI setup and Ford EcoLPI, it was too late, the damage was done, LPG became known as backfiring, slow, smelly ****boxes and it's difficult to change public perception.

It's like the USA and their hatred of diesel.

[sr71]

Longest Youtube I’ve ever watched. But gotta say, very informative. I’m impressed how the programming is done, running LPG and Petrol at the same time. Dual fuel keeps the option of LPG daily driving (until you need that extra 200kW) , as the availability continues to dwindle. Great option for repowering a classic.
Anyone know what that package would be worth? As tested-Long Motor, Fuel tanks, Motec, Tune Costs etc

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by sr71

Longest Youtube I’ve ever watched. But gotta say, very informative. I’m impressed how the programming is done, running LPG and Petrol at the same time. Dual fuel keeps the option of LPG daily driving (until you need that extra 200kW) , as the availability continues to dwindle. Great option for repowering a classic.
Anyone know what that package would be worth? As tested-Long Motor, Fuel tanks, Motec, Tune Costs etc

I'm saying no less than $75,000.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by sr71

Longest Youtube I’ve ever watched. But gotta say, very informative. I’m impressed how the programming is done, running LPG and Petrol at the same time. Dual fuel keeps the option of LPG daily driving (until you need that extra 200kW) , as the availability continues to dwindle. Great option for repowering a classic.
Anyone know what that package would be worth? As tested-Long Motor, Fuel tanks, Motec, Tune Costs etc

The significant torque increase down low on LPG was good too over straight 98, it was a very noticeable difference on the graph.

[roKWiz]

Watching the Bus Grease Monkey on the tube, he likes to upgrade some of the old Greyhound coaches 6 71 NA Detroits diesels using gas injection to make them climb better in the mountains.