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15-01-2024, 04:57 PM | #1 | ||
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Cummins hit with a $1.675 billion penalty for intentionally selling defeat devices that could bypass emissions sensors, a direct violation of the US Clean Air Act,
Vehicles affected include 2013 - 2023 RAM Trucks with Cummins diesel power-trains. https://jalopnik.com/cummins-hit-wit...nal-1851123885 I wonder if it's Stellantis or Cummins that is liable?
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16-01-2024, 07:14 AM | #2 | |||
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16-01-2024, 12:15 PM | #3 | ||
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I'm curious as to exactly what these "defeat devices" were..... about the only way I can interpret any of the articles is that the "devices" could be as simple as not somehow preventing the ECU from being rewritten by anyone with suitable software and a laptop.
But that said, considering how fast hackers manage to crack the latest playstations, etc, I can imagine trying to keep tuners out of an ECU would result in 99% of an ECU's function being self preservation..... either that or someone would simply find a way of adapting a generic aftermarket ECU
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16-01-2024, 01:25 PM | #4 | ||
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Cummins installed alleged defeat device software in diesel engines that were supplied to Fiat Chrysler for Ram 2500 and 3500 vehicles, model years 2013-2019. The emission control software contained an alleged defeat device that was designed to control emissions during certification but illegally reduced the effectiveness of the emission control during real world on-road driving.
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16-01-2024, 04:10 PM | #5 | |||
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It's all very interesting. I wonder who is on the hook, Cummins who may have certified the engine, or Stellantis who certifies the pick-up truck? I also wonder have GM or Ford done likewise?
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16-01-2024, 04:35 PM | #6 | ||
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Old news.......https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11499659
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