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Old 04-09-2018, 12:26 PM   #1
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Hi all so im having a winge my ba ute has devoured its secon auto i seriously think that all manufacturers should have to run trans coolers out side the coolant system.
I went to the trouble of replacing box lines and radiator drove 40ks and im back to square one so not feeling the love today.
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Old 04-09-2018, 01:58 PM   #2
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I had BA then a BF did 320k in that and stock standard never missed a beat until it decided to play doggy style with the car in front and BF got destroyed for that little indiscretion
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:32 PM   #3
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I used to rip burnouts all the time in my ba. 230k on original auto, no problems at all.

Maybe you've just had bad luck.
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Old 04-09-2018, 02:41 PM   #4
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What's worse is im surrounded by bloody crumpledoors ship loads of cheap parts as it was it cost me 500 for the donor car.
So not happy think i need rum lol
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Old 04-09-2018, 06:38 PM   #5
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As a forum member you should be well aware of the trans cooler issues of the BA and BF models. 2 Transmission fails is crazy really!

So what steps are you taking to ensure transmission number 3 doesnt fail?


I'd advise either a standalone transmission cooler which bypasses the BA's radiator cooler, the standalone Davis Craig V8 cooler in my BF was good for 400,000km.
I also had a BA which I didnt run a standalone cooler in, but just replaced the radiator to one which was near twice as thick and had a copper transmission cooler line instead of the aluminium stock one. There was nothing wrong with the original radiator I just swapped it out for peace of mind.
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If you used new parts, you should have some comeback
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Unfortunately used parts so no recourse.
Current plans to fit external cooler and hydraulic filter with a thermo fan.
And I own the stuff up as I neglected to research known issues for this vehicle.
It just reinforced the statement that they stopped making good cars after 1980.��������������
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:28 PM   #8
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Unfortunately used parts so no recourse.
Current plans to fit external cooler and hydraulic filter with a thermo fan.
And I own the stuff up as I neglected to research known issues for this vehicle.
It just reinforced the statement that they stopped making good cars after 1980.��������������
Yeah the barra turbos and miami V8s were real heaps.... I wish they never existed..

In all seriousness. I had a BF, I knew of the issues with the coolers and knew i could have one for $400ish. It was on the list to do.

What do you think happened? I got a milkshake and had to spend thousands on a new trans. I still kick my self as to the massive waste of money that was. Ill never again own a late model (out of warranty) Falcon with a factory trans cooler.

All cars have known issues - we just have to deal with them.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:11 PM   #9
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Luck of the draw I suppose, My na BA 240k no issues, now FGT 120k still no issues.
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Unfortunately used parts so no recourse.
Current plans to fit external cooler and hydraulic filter with a thermo fan.
And I own the stuff up as I neglected to research known issues for this vehicle.
It just reinforced the statement that they stopped making good cars after 1980.��������������
Maybe so. But you don’t own a car from the 70’s or earlier, you have a relationship with one, many sleepless nights in the garage repairing them!
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:20 AM   #11
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FIL's BFII EGAS ute did over 500,000km on it .... original engine and auto ... and original heat exchanger ... auto never serviced.

Was a courier in Sydney as well.

Kept and running pretty well and always loaded up.

Luck of the draw really.
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Old 05-09-2018, 02:55 PM   #12
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Our real steel cars are in storage lol 2xb coupes one xc ute and yes.
There are sleepless nights re rust repair and such but they have style and sound like real cars lol.
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Yep just unlucky fix and move on lol.
I think as soon as the xc is road worthy my use it as my daily.
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It just reinforced the statement that they stopped making good cars after 1980.��������������
Youre saying its a bad car coz its having parts fail after 13-15 years?
How many 100% reliable never breakdown daily driver XP/XR Falcons did you see in 1980 or XC/XDs that gave 0 problems in 93.

Its an old car it will breakdown sometimes
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Old 13-09-2018, 08:04 PM   #15
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Do understand that but doesn't meen i have to like it .
Truth is I'm not a big fan of modern body's
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The answer is pretty simple...

It's time to upgrade to an AU...

Hope you sort it...
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Yep remote oil filter and cooler with a fan so hopefully end of problems.
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Unfortunately used parts so no recourse.
Current plans to fit external cooler and hydraulic filter with a thermo fan.
And I own the stuff up as I neglected to research known issues for this vehicle.
It just reinforced the statement that they stopped making good cars after 1980.��������������
A 14 year old car, and you are unhappy that it broke.
Did you replace the trany with a rebuilt one? You would need to have a conversation with the builder. Did you use one from the wreckers? Ahhh..that was likely 14 years old as well? Come on, what do you expect>
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Old 19-09-2018, 04:56 PM   #19
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Ok it would seem that my venting my frustration has upset some people.
I'm in this situation due to my lack of reserch and funds i understand the points people have been making and agree it was more of a pressure realise and I apologize for any offense I may have caused.
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Ok it would seem that my venting my frustration has upset some people.
I'm in this situation due to my lack of reserch and funds i understand the points people have been making and agree it was more of a pressure realise and I apologize for any offense I may have caused.
Oh, no offence taken for sure. It's just strange that you are most upset that a 14 year old vehicle broke on you. Regardless of your research, the car was again, 14 years old. It may well have been flogged during it's life, and so to with the replacement trany. The research would only be valid for a vehicle of fairly young life. There are many BA's on the road still giving their owners great service.
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Was there the same issues with the ba v8 fairlanes as well?

My guess is that there would have been, but are they more common than the I6?
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Don't get me wrong love the ute and yes it is 14year old.
But i have a matching numbers xc ute in storage that is bulk original and the only reason im not driving it is that i had a accident and damaged the right rear quarter.
And i have never had the strawberry milkshake happen before.
Just lucky i guess.
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Don't get me wrong love the ute and yes it is 14year old.
But i have a matching numbers xc ute in storage that is bulk original and the only reason im not driving it is that i had a accident and damaged the right rear quarter.
And i have never had the strawberry milkshake happen before.
Just lucky i guess.
Part out the XC & buy a decent transmission.
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Old 21-09-2018, 02:14 PM   #24
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Couldn't do that i have a replacement quarter just need to get it done besides a matching numbers xc 302 4speed aren't that common
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Was a courier in Sydney as well.
Kept and running pretty well and always loaded up.
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