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Not sure if this should be own thread or if the Ukraine War thread could be re-opened...if early reports are to be believed, looks like Wagner may be attempting a Coup.
Not sure how much of the following is true, straight out lie, or exaggerated, but this is what is being reported: - Russian forces striking Wagner camps with missiles - Military vehicles on the streets of Rostov and now Moscow - Russian stock exchange taking a hammering - Internet now mostly unavailable in Russia - Military base on fire near Moscow Country armed with nukes possibly on the verge of collapse is quite a worry. Last edited by Mulva; 24-06-2023 at 12:33 PM. |
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Some of those things I listed are stuff a guy translated from Telegram channels (like military base on fire near Moscow).
Here is news report re the unrest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqZMihMT-l4 This Tweet has some more details: https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/sta...5Es2_&ref_url= In last few weeks Prigozhin has been posting lots of rants criticising the Russian military leadership and military, but not Putin. In fact, he was accusing the Russian military leadership of not telling Putin the real situation. I assumed that was Putin getting ready to scape-goat Shoigu if they failed in Ukraine - but if this is true then Prigozhin really needs stay away from open windows and not accept any cups of tea from Vlad. Wonder if opportunity presents itself we will see the likes of Belarus, Georgia, Chechnya try to get out from under Russia Last edited by Mulva; 24-06-2023 at 01:01 PM. |
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I can confirm the Melbourne Herald Sun has an article about this.
Herald Sun headline topic "Wagner mercenary group shoots down Russian military helicopter sparking civil war threat" With the link you will need a subscription to read. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wo...9ca587a3ef7f1c |
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Here's a long article about it on 9 news website...
https://www.9news.com.au/world/wagne...6-890051477041 This will be interesting (scary) to watch play out.
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Mods please delete if posting link to another forum is frowned upon...there's a thread on Big Footy that is lively with lots of unverified tweets supposedly showing the convoy etc
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...39383/page-240 Like this tweet: https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...5Es1_&ref_url= Last edited by Mulva; 24-06-2023 at 02:57 PM. |
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Geez I hope so, this BS with Ukrane has to stop.
Putin is a mushroom IMO. Has no clue what's really happening.
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From this linked tweet: A video has surfaced showing Prigozhin at the Southern Military District HQ in Rostov-on-Don talking to (and HUMILIATING) Deputy Defense Minister Yunus-bek Yevkurov. He threatens to blockade Rostov and head for Moscow!
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/st...5Es1_&ref_url= Poster on BF quipped that the Russian army was once considered 2nd best army in the world, then was joked to be second best army in Ukraine...and is now the second best army in Russia |
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Here is HS latest update.
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This is interesting, it’s been clear for a while that western-aligned sources saw YP as emotionally volatile. I thought they were going to progressively guilt him into a simple personal suicide, a more high-tech version of the Rosners playing “Gloomy Sunday”.
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If Wagner is in control of Rostov then the whole Kherson peninsula is at threat and the Russian army regulars would start to retreat in panic.
You’d hope that Ukraine would be nimble enough to take advantage of this and collapse the Southern Front. |
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Remember our media is all pro-Ukraine so don't believe all that you read.
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Were you expecting them to be pro Russia?
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That is a stupid question!
Neutral. But that is not possible in this day and age.
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yeah right...Assange is a rapist, Britney Higgins was raped., Trump is a rapist.Iraq soldiers eat babies. Sure..trust our Gay-BC
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So, Wagner are still in Ukraine happily fighting the Nazi's then?
Russia should give in to the demands of Wagner to end the invasion of Russia and spare lives. Last edited by Mulva; 25-06-2023 at 02:59 AM. |
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So, Putin has now offered more money to Wagner than what the west had offered?
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Gave up on the ABC some time ago, just pushing it's own agenda. I have to say I think overall the media news is pretty reliable, too easy to get caught out if they promote falsehoods. Besides, they get their info from the governments media section usually, so every channel has the same story, unless they get a confidential source like they always do for the Royals.
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Have a nice day. PS: Talking about propaganda which countries propaganda do you follow? Last edited by Itsme; 25-06-2023 at 11:32 AM. |
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Two implosions in one week... I was getting ready to stock up on popcorn.
Seems the latter is now a Fizzer. ![]() But I wonder if Russians did empty the shelves of toilet paper? |
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And as quickly as it started, it seems to have finished.
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Wish Foxtel / Gov didn't ban the RT channel, so I can watch propaganda from both sides and make up my own mind.
All a bit strange though. The mercenaries were able to "march" freely to "within 200kms of Moscow". Civilians on the streets didn't seem bothered by it in the slightest. Prighozin is seen having a somewhat civilised conversation with the MOD after taking it over. And now he has a free pass to Belarus. All within the space of 24 hrs. Can we speculate that he could now train and build Belarus capabilities? Oh, and now the yanks are saying they knew the coup was coming since 2 weeks ago. ![]()
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