Ranger Size Ram could be coming.

[csv8]

:WORD coming from the Automotive News USA is that RAM will build a mid-size pick up alongside the new Jeep Scrambler. Both models would be built at the recently retooled Toledo, Ohio plant.

The Scrambler is a double-cab pick-up variant of the JL Jeep Wrangler and is set to debut at the LA Auto Show in November before going into production early next year. The RAM will share the Scrambler’s separate chassis underpinning to create a mid-size truck to compete with the likes of the Toyota Tacoma, Chevrolet Colorado, GMC Canyon, and soon to be launched in the US, Ford Ranger." https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/mid...jeep-scrambler

[aussie muscle]

I saw a RAM 2500 Heavy Duty today. of course, it was parked in two bays and crooked because it's too big for him to park the stupid oversized pickup...

[MITCHAY]

Yay another tank on our roads.

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Yay another tank on our roads.

No it's the size of the ranger

What's it matter how many big cars are on the road?

One thing that ****es me off to no end is when hybrid driving greenies complain that you"don't need" a big car, as their Prius holds 4 adults comfortably, people use their cars differently for different needs and wants

[prydey]

Anyone buying a RAM thinking they are getting a superior towing vehicle than the current available options in Australia will be very disappointed. It has pathetic payload allowance and not a great rear axle load limit.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prydey

Anyone buying a RAM thinking they are getting a superior towing vehicle than the current available options in Australia will be very disappointed. It has pathetic payload allowance and not a great rear axle load limit.

It will still pull the van better than the Thailand special utes - ever had a 3000-3500kg van behind a Ranger before?

They advertise they can tow circa 3500kg but it just about goes backwards when you encounter a hill, I've had the fun of moving around a 5th wheel trailer on the back of a Ranger before, the owner ditched the Ranger for a RAM 2500.

Once you start talking large vans its American utes or 200 series Land Cruiser and thats the end of the story.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

It will still pull the van better than the Thailand special utes - ever had a 3000-3500kg van behind a Ranger before?

They advertise they can tow circa 3500kg but it just about goes backwards when you encounter a hill, I've had the fun of moving around a 5th wheel trailer on the back of a Ranger before, the owner ditched the Ranger for a RAM 2500.

Once you start talking large vans its American utes or 200 series Land Cruiser and thats the end of the story.

just so you know, 3-3.5t vans aren't actually that common, and those that do have them generally have an LC200 or bigger.

they can advertise 3.5t towing, because it passes the test procedures for towing. they don't ever claim it can tow up hill at speed like there is nothing connected.

people love having a crack at the dual cabs, but they serve their purpose and are very competent vehicles. many people tow vans up around 2.8-3t with them for many thousands of km without issue.

also, the LC200 would be one of the most overrated cars on the road.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prydey

just so you know, 3-3.5t vans aren't actually that common, and those that do have them generally have an LC200 or bigger.

they can advertise 3.5t towing, because it passes the test procedures for towing. they don't ever claim it can tow up hill at speed like there is nothing connected.

people love having a crack at the dual cabs, but they serve their purpose and are very competent vehicles. many people tow vans up around 2.8-3t with them for many thousands of km without issue.

also, the LC200 would be one of the most overrated cars on the road.

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No they're not, they're just cheap ladder frame chassis vehicles that they can bang out in Thailand for $7500 and you pay $75,000 for them

If it wasn't for tax incentives to own these vehicles people wouldn't buy them, they're cheap rubbish with an expensive price tag attached.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by prydey

also, IMO the LC200 would be one of the most overrated cars on the road.

Corrected for truth....

'Cause thats all it is, your opinion, many others opinions and experience (including mine) differ hugely

[FG50T]

Can carry the full load on the tray and still pull your max tow capacity, while using less fuel, and being able to brake while carrying the weight.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Corrected for truth....

'Cause thats all it is, your opinion, many others opinions and experience (including mine) differ hugely

it is a very good car, don't get me wrong, but yes, I do think its overrated and i'm not alone. It has a tiny 610kg payload, and reasonably soft rear springs for a comfy ride. It may tow 3.5t but that will use up a lot of the available payload, once you factor in fuel, driver etc.

a fair percentage of LC owners probably just don't care about the legal side of things while they fit the entire ARB catalogue to their car, or they modify it so that it can actually legally cope with what they want to do.

the same people that ridicule the dual cabs point to the LC200 as being a far superior option, but the specs just don't add up to justify the hype. It may be better for some, but not by the margin its reputation would suggest.

….in my opinion

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

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No they're not, they're just cheap ladder frame chassis vehicles that they can bang out in Thailand for $7500 and you pay $75,000 for them

To be fair, that statement could also apply to the American trucks too.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by aussie muscle

I saw a RAM 2500 Heavy Duty today. of course, it was parked in two bays and crooked because it's too big for him to park the stupid oversized pickup...

If it wasnt for the crazy price tags, which are generally justified, then id love a duel cab RAM size ute/pick up (whatever!) with a bench seat in the front.

The perfect vehicle that would do a bit of everything and the beds are a decent size too.

All these years I thought the Yanks were crazy but the things are so darn practical.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by FG50T

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Can carry the full load on the tray and still pull your max tow capacity, while using less fuel, and being able to brake while carrying the weight.

So aerodynamic, and comfortable sitting right above the axle.

[eb2fairmont]

Is it just me or is FCA like gm in saying a lot but actually not delivering any new platforms? Last one being 2019 ram and the Giorgio platform

Just seems quiet with a lot of refreshes for small cars.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by prydey

it is a very good car, don't get me wrong, but yes, I do think its overrated and i'm not alone. It has a tiny 610kg payload, and reasonably soft rear springs for a comfy ride. It may tow 3.5t but that will use up a lot of the available payload, once you factor in fuel, driver etc.

a fair percentage of LC owners probably just don't care about the legal side of things while they fit the entire ARB catalogue to their car, or they modify it so that it can actually legally cope with what they want to do.

the same people that ridicule the dual cabs point to the LC200 as being a far superior option, but the specs just don't add up to justify the hype. It may be better for some, but not by the margin its reputation would suggest.

….in my opinion

Love my dual cabs, best thing since sliced bread i reckon, got my first in 1981 (ex mining HJ47 crew cab) and now have a VDJ97R, great vehicles although not the dual cabs in question me thinks....

Anyhow i wouldn't put the LC200 and most dual cabs in the same catagory, the potential buyer for either would more than likely not be comparing the two, one been basically a mid to large sized ute and the other an Extra-large SUV, different market with a big difference in price.....

......all my opinion to

[Warrenk]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Corrected for truth....

'Cause thats all it is, your opinion, many others opinions and experience (including mine) differ hugely

It might be his option, but it is correct, the LC 200 is the most overrated 4wd in Australia. No where else in the world do they have the same "cult like" following as they do in Australia.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Warrenk

It might be his option, but it is correct, the LC 200 is the most overrated 4wd in Australia. No where else in the world do they have the same "cult like" following as they do in Australia.

All your saying mate is that your opinion is the correct one, you do know what that sounds like don't ya?

[RANGEREST]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

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No they're not, they're just cheap ladder frame chassis vehicles that they can bang out in Thailand for $7500 and you pay $75,000 for them

If it wasn't for tax incentives to own these vehicles people wouldn't buy them, they're cheap rubbish with an expensive price tag attached.

So I should sell my Ranger?
Because your 5L VS Statesman will tow my work trailer better, carry more paint drums, an airless sprayer and a heap of planks, ladders etc better.
Really, some people should just keep their opinions to themselves.
My dual cab Ranger does everything I ask of it.
Including towing my 2.5t boat, or near 3t caravan and bikes and all the stuff that goes with a family trip away.
A V8 sedan doesn't suit MY needs, and won't do what a dual cab DOES.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by csv8

:WORD coming from the Automotive News USA is that RAM will build a mid-size pick up alongside the new Jeep Scrambler. Both models would be built at the recently retooled Toledo, Ohio plant.

The Scrambler is a double-cab pick-up variant of the JL Jeep Wrangler and is set to debut at the LA Auto Show in November before going into production early next year. The RAM will share the Scrambler’s separate chassis underpinning to create a mid-size truck to compete with the likes of the Toyota Tacoma, Chevrolet Colorado, GMC Canyon, and soon to be launched in the US, Ford Ranger." https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/mid...jeep-scrambler

I looked up the last generation Dodge Dakota mid sized pick up that ended in 2009
it looks to be similar width as Tacoma - about 60-70 mm wider than Ranger and Colorado...

So I'm wondering if next generation Ranger is going to grow a little wider and become
a bit more roomier and more comfortable......