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Old 21-01-2012, 11:53 AM   #1
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http://www.news.com.au/business/cele...-1226249784804
This will open up a can of worms..............XA Falcon

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Old 21-01-2012, 12:00 PM   #2
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Absolute NO BRAINER Bolwell Nagari closely followed by the Illinga AF 2
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Old 21-01-2012, 12:21 PM   #3
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Nah !! the P76!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 21-01-2012, 12:24 PM   #4
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Old 21-01-2012, 12:28 PM   #5
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hmmmm i'd say the XRGT
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Old 21-01-2012, 12:29 PM   #6
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Well I think your all wrong, there's only 1 car that has received international recognition from this country.
The Lightburn Zeta from the 1960's.

It went backwards by stopping the engine, turning the key the other way, putting the engine into reverse. I Kid you not.
Theoretically it went as fast in reverse as it did going forwards.
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Old 21-01-2012, 12:30 PM   #7
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Seems Mr Gover likes his Holden's. Very unbiased
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Old 21-01-2012, 01:00 PM   #8
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I think you'd have to go back a fair way...the first Falcon was just a Yank Falcon with a few mods to suit our conditions, the first Holden was probably "more" Australian being designed here, but still drew on it's Chev roots.
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Old 21-01-2012, 01:24 PM   #9
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I think you'd have to go back a fair way...the first Falcon was just a Yank Falcon with a few mods to suit our conditions, the first Holden was probably "more" Australian being designed here, but still drew on it's Chev roots.
I thought the 48-215 or whatever they're called was just a rejected Chev design adapted for Aus? So in that case probably no different to early Falcons/
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Old 21-01-2012, 01:25 PM   #10
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I thought the 48-215 or whatever they're called was just a rejected Chev design adapted for Aus? So in that case probably no different to early Falcons/
It was, just styled differently.

Also, I can't believe Lewis Bandt's coupe utility isn't mentioned. The concept of the ute had a fundamental impact on the automotive scene, more significant than a lot of the cars in that list.
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Old 21-01-2012, 01:30 PM   #11
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I thought the 48-215 or whatever they're called was just a rejected Chev design adapted for Aus? So in that case probably no different to early Falcons/
might have been. to me it was a 46? chev with shorter guards and used a '42? model oldsmobile engine, that gm thought was not good enough for it's real customers, so off loaded it to australia where the gullible would love it



best australian car - the xa-xb coupe. very beautiful, great interior. the wrap around dash is fantastic. it took until the eb, for a car's interior to impress me more than the xb interior. obviously technology allowed for more creature comforts, but the basic seating comfort and dash was just outstanding

of course, it isn't really australian, because it was a cross between a torino and mustang
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Old 21-01-2012, 01:45 PM   #12
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The words "best Australian built" infer built and perhaps build-quality rather than design but I think they meant to say designed and built. As there was no build quality worth speaking about till the 1990s (if not later... if at all!) that narrows the field somewhat.

So while the P76 is a candidate on design, on the basis of both factors I think we'd pretty much narrow it down to the Territory, recent Falcons maybe. The build quality is still a bit touch and go though!

Holdens were never in the running I think and mostly haven't been Australian designs anyway.
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Old 21-01-2012, 01:48 PM   #13
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Perhaps the XP Falcon, It was Fords last chance to get it right or pack up and leave Aust.
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Old 21-01-2012, 02:48 PM   #14
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Although I hate to admit it... The VE.
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Old 21-01-2012, 04:26 PM   #15
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Although I hate to admit it... The VE.
youre kidding mate! the fg range of falcons are streets ahead.
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Old 21-01-2012, 04:40 PM   #16
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youre kidding mate! the fg range of falcons are streets ahead.
Unfortunetly their not sure the FG may look better but over design development and platform of the VE is streets ahead of falcon. Its well known that the omega platform is much better than falcon especially the irs rear
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Old 21-01-2012, 04:48 PM   #17
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Yeh the VE has a superior rear end...

Everything else it lacks though, gearboxes, blind spots, under power V6's, cheap seats, cheap materials.

VEII Omega feels just like a VR Executive, especially in the seat material department....

In saying that however Id still drive an SV6.
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Old 21-01-2012, 04:59 PM   #18
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I think in terms of "impact on the customer" and actual originality of design from here in Oz, you would have to make a three way tie between the HQ Holden, XA Falcon, and VH Valiant. The Valiant and the HQ were, however, the only ones with truly Australian engines at that time (in six cylinder hemi, and the six and eight cylinder Holden engines, not the Chev)
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Old 21-01-2012, 05:31 PM   #19
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Unfortunetly their not sure the FG may look better but over design development and platform of the VE is streets ahead of falcon. Its well known that the omega platform is much better than falcon especially the irs rear
have a look on red teams forum at faults with the ve, streets ahead....... i think your dreaming.
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Old 21-01-2012, 06:00 PM   #20
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When we constantly look backwards, we miss seeing what's in front.

I loved the Aussie cars i had in my youth but would I want to own one these days?
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might have been. to me it was a 46? chev with shorter guards and used a '42? model oldsmobile engine, that gm thought was not good enough for it's real customers, so off loaded it to australia where the gullible would love it



best australian car - the xa-xb coupe. very beautiful, great interior. the wrap around dash is fantastic. it took until the eb, for a car's interior to impress me more than the xb interior. obviously technology allowed for more creature comforts, but the basic seating comfort and dash was just outstanding

of course, it isn't really australian, because it was a cross between a torino and mustang
And it was released a few years too late, it didnt sell well.
But yes, great to look at today.
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Old 21-01-2012, 06:39 PM   #22
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Nah !! the P76!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd have to go with this, but add 'Targa Florio' or 'Force 7'
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I'd have to go with this, but add 'Targa Florio' or 'Force 7'
Must say, I agree!
Then there's the EH with a 179 on board.......
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My personal list of the best Australian car models:

- Fords: XP, XB, XF, AU, FG

- Holdens: EH, HR, HT, HQ, HZ

- Chryslers: VH, CL, VJ

- Mitsubishi: GH, TP

None of the local Toyotas really capture my interest. Nor do Leylands efforts.
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AU Falcon, Series one, forte.
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AU Falcon, Series one, forte.
Whilst I agree 100%, I think youll need more than a flamesuit for that one.
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XY GT = legend .
Was the bench mark for all performance cars till the very late 90's
Had it all going for it ,looks, race history, media hipe, wow factor.
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