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30-04-2012, 10:17 PM | #1 | ||
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I just watched Top Gear tonight aside from JC Capt slow acting like idiots it wasnt too bad they showed some Chinese cars actually about 10 of them they all seemed to be copies of Euro cars and they tested a pretend Rover and also a pretend MG they looked OK to me but some of the other ones were horrible they said the cars were really crappy we seem to have got the best ones (Cherry and the Greatwall) if thats the case god help us if the Chinese send out the others any thoughts John |
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30-04-2012, 10:19 PM | #2 | ||
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I'd rather walk or ride a pushbike than own a Chinese made car.
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30-04-2012, 10:20 PM | #3 | ||
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Just great how they copy designs and say you cant sue them.
The car built off an old Alfa platform looked sort of not bad. How it would fare in a crash is another question though. |
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30-04-2012, 10:26 PM | #4 | ||
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In 10 years they may be respectable.
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30-04-2012, 10:26 PM | #5 | ||
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^^^Exactly and one reason why you'd give any Chinese car a wide berth for the next 10 years or until they get their act together with R&D, engineering for crash safety and modern, efficient drivetrains
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30-04-2012, 10:30 PM | #6 | ||
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They will get there.
China is going to run the world. Lucky i like Fried Rice.
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30-04-2012, 10:34 PM | #7 | ||
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yeah, sleeping giant atm... its why the worlds car makers are scrambling to get a foothold in china now, between china and india theres a massive amount of growth, and money to be made
i havent yet seen a chinese car id buy, but im sure it will happen. |
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30-04-2012, 10:42 PM | #8 | |||
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give them 10 years and just like Korean cars they Chinese will be a good car , currently Qa ia not in the vocab |
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30-04-2012, 10:45 PM | #9 | ||
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Each time I see a Great Wall van or light truck with no protection in front (ie. no bonnet in front of the driver), I wonder about whether the employer thinks at all about the safety of their employee, also considering those vehicles have only 2 or so safety stars.
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30-04-2012, 11:48 PM | #10 | ||
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Just finished watching it here.
Our own greed for money and ignorance as to whats happening over there will be the end of us ..
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30-04-2012, 11:57 PM | #11 | ||
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The middle class in china are growing and they will want western cars.
I took some Chinese singaporeans around Sydney yesterday, they loved the space and design of the falcon. They pay something like up to 50k Aussie for the right to own a car. There is an auction for rego-seriously. Nice people, loving their visit here and impressed by our cars. A lot of people thought jap cars were naff 30 years ago now the quality and perception. It would be nice to get some Chinese money and investment into ford and form a partnership here and export stuff around the world. Last edited by washoutbeach; 01-05-2012 at 12:04 AM. |
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01-05-2012, 12:34 AM | #13 | ||
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just like korea with kia and hyundai and give them a decade or so and we'll be having a very different conversation much like the hyundai and kia one we are currently having.
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01-05-2012, 12:43 AM | #14 | |||
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01-05-2012, 03:27 AM | #15 | |||
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And yep, I'm old enough....just...to remember when Jap cars were virtually laughed at. The tide started to turn in the mid seventies, around the time my old man bought a brand new Mazda 929 wagon. It had air, disc brakes, push button am/fm ("what's FM dad?"..."dunno son"... ) radio cassette stereo with four speakers, and cloth interior. Our neighbour at the time had a new Holden Vacationer special edition wagon, and it didn't have half that stuff standard. After them, it was those damn Koreans and their funny little Hyundais... I agree...in a few years we'll be laughing at someone elses cars. |
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01-05-2012, 07:28 AM | #16 | |||
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It quite interesting seeing where some Ford/holden parts are made...
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01-05-2012, 08:32 AM | #17 | |||
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The also own 1 of the old SAAB 9000? platforms, and numerous Italian platforms AlfaRomeo 164/166 models, together with some Lancia platforms and other, all now being reborn and manufactured again. They are trying to buy SAAB [wtf for, but anyway] but GM will not allow them to compete with China made GM products, as most SAAB's are just GM products in a pretty frock with GM technology used. In any case, VW, Benz, BMW sell more vehicles in China than any other market, and in a few short years time, ALL the Luxo brands, ie Rolls, Bentley, Ferrari etc etc, China will be the #1 volume market. CHINA IS THE #1 CAR MARKET ON THE PLANET! Wonder what Chinese think of Ecoboost Falcons, they could by 100,000/pcs no sweat! |
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01-05-2012, 08:36 AM | #18 | |||
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NOT automatically cheap though.[Get what u pay for] I saw some abolute RUBBISH at the trade show too, hey it was only $5k brand-new. The Chinese prefer "brand-names" [even if made in China] than the home made product, they are very label-sluts Taiwan has some home made products, brilliant vehicles, not cheap and NOTHING to do with sister China, they are more like Japanese quality/price Last edited by RASER; 01-05-2012 at 08:45 AM. Reason: Chairman Mao |
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I enjoyed my trips to China, if i was young and single i would have moved over there, you can make serious coin just by speaking English and knowing your own home market. Last edited by RASER; 01-05-2012 at 08:47 AM. Reason: Pedal cycles are dead. |
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01-05-2012, 11:09 AM | #21 | |||
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01-05-2012, 03:37 PM | #22 | ||
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01-05-2012, 03:42 PM | #24 | ||
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I work with a guy who has a Great Wall SUV. He says it's terrible and always has little annoying things going wrong with it.
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01-05-2012, 03:55 PM | #25 | ||
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All I can say is remember the first KIA's and Hyandai's well fast forward 15 years and Ta-Da they are conisdered good cars
well in 10 - 15 years time I think we will be saying the same about these
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01-05-2012, 05:09 PM | #28 | ||
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amazing the Chinese wont even buy their own cars, yet some people here are willing to buy their's?
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01-05-2012, 05:17 PM | #29 | |||
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01-05-2012, 06:33 PM | #30 | ||
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I can't wait for the day china bags Africa for there cut price business model and stealing there copy rights what goes around comes around and no country remains ontop forever Throught out history just bout every country has been great and mighty at one point it never lasts tho
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