Lowering WS Zetec

Redrum · 01-09-2009, 06:28 PM

Has anyone lowered their Fiesta's? If so what did they use and can they post pics.

Franco Cozzo · 01-09-2009, 06:32 PM

Zetec Dave sells lowering springs for the Fieata on this forum, he is in Melbourne too.

Liri · 01-09-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrum

Has anyone lowered their Fiesta's? If so what did they use and can they post pics.

I did this last week with Pedders Sports Ryder Springs

http://www.fordforums.com.au/attachm...chmentid=55289

Fi.ES.TA · 01-09-2009, 06:46 PM

How you going to go with your warranty Liri with lowering it surely it would void it.

Liri · 01-09-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fi.ES.TA

How you going to go with your warranty Liri with lowering it surely it would void it.

I've spoken to a bloke who works at Castle Hill Ford who told me warranty is void on any non standard or modified component or any damage caused as a result of the components failure.

My brother has a VE SS and he got the same sort of story from Holden when he put his 22 inch wheels on it.

JClarke · 01-09-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Liri

I've spoken to a bloke who works at Castle Hill Ford who told me warranty is void on any non standard or modified component or any damage caused as a result of the components failure.

My brother has a VE SS and he got the same sort of story from Holden when he put his 22 inch wheels on it.

But the components are not in any kind of failure where you have kept the stock in for back up where it doesn't void the warranty, am I correct?

By the way, love your fiesta! Is it Zetec? If so, it is the same one I will get tomorrow afternoon!

Liri · 01-09-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JClarke_Fiesta

But the components are not in any kind of failure where you have kept the stock in for back up where it doesn't void the warranty, am I correct?

By the way, love your fiesta! Is it Zetec? If so, it is the same one I will get tomorrow afternoon!

yeah that's my understanding of it all.

Mine is only a CL but I wish I could have bought the Zetec

Fi.ES.TA · 01-09-2009, 08:29 PM

I went to ford after 3 week of buying my car to clarify what was acceptable to mod without voiding it,and they told me all is i can do is put mags on it replace panel filter with K+N or equivalant no cold air induction and replace exhaust from cat back anything else will not be accepted.

JClarke · 01-09-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fi.ES.TA

I went to ford after 3 week of buying my car to clarify what was acceptable to mod without voiding it,and they told me all is i can do is put mags on it replace panel filter with K+N or equivalant no cold air induction and replace exhaust from cat back anything else will not be accepted.

At least, I can put in some better mags!

Redrum · 01-09-2009, 10:03 PM

Under legislation which trumps any Ford dealer, they can only not cover something under warranty if the modifications caused/affected the fault etc. So if you lowered car and the radio stops working they have to fix it. Is common sense.

JClarke · 01-09-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Liri

Mine is only a CL but I wish I could have bought the Zetec

But still, your CL looks awesome with your mags!

Redrum · 01-09-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Liri

I did this last week with Pedders Sports Ryder Springs

http://www.fordforums.com.au/attachm...chmentid=55289

Looks good, wheels would take a bit to clean

Fi.ES.TA · 30-09-2009, 08:27 PM

Rather than start a new thread ill post it here.

Does the Ws zetec have lower springs than the CL?
The reason i ask is because i have read on a english
fiesta forum that ford was allowing a guy to put lowering springs on his ST
aslong as they was bought from ford and this would not void his warranty.

Vision Zetec · 01-10-2009, 11:08 AM

I just picked up some H&R Springs from Zetec Dave. Will post some pics and thoughts when I get them installed

Fi.ES.TA · 02-10-2009, 06:54 PM

Buying aftermarket springs though will void my warranty
thats why i was wondering about the zetec springs if they
are lower than the CL then i would buy them from ford to avoid voiding my warranty.

robjh80 · 03-10-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fi.ES.TA

i have read on a english
fiesta forum that ford was allowing a guy to put lowering springs on his ST
aslong as they was bought from ford and this would not void his warranty.

Eibach Lowered Springs can be purchased over the counter at Ford Dealers in the UK, Eibach are the only ones Ford recommend and approve for installation without affecting the factory warranty.

Of course here in Australia no such arrangement through Ford Dealerships is available but I would doubt that lowering the car 30mm - 35mm would affect warranty.

Personally with the current exchange rate I would just purchase Eibach's from Euro Parts in Germany and airfreight them over ... $241 + freight = cheap as! .... those same springs in Australia are very expensive, last quote I got was over $600 just to supply them! ..

http://www.european-parts.net/catalo...roducts_id=902

Fi.ES.TA · 03-10-2009, 09:21 AM

Thanks for that rob will be looking into it,but my next question
is would lowering the car 30-35mm with 17'' mags be a problem
ie.rubbing on arches or would i have to buy coil overs aswell?

Ben85 · 03-10-2009, 01:53 PM

I've lowered my WQ the same amount and have 17's on the car with no problems. No rubbing on guards etc.

Liri · 03-10-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fi.ES.TA

Thanks for that rob will be looking into it,but my next question
is would lowering the car 30-35mm with 17'' mags be a problem
ie.rubbing on arches or would i have to buy coil overs aswell?

I dropped mine 35mm with the pedders sprigs with no probs at all

robjh80 · 03-10-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fi.ES.TA

Thanks for that rob will be looking into it,but my next question
is would lowering the car 30-35mm with 17'' mags be a problem
ie.rubbing on arches or would i have to buy coil overs aswell?

As Ben and Liri have said, you wont have any problems lowering the car with 35mm lowered springs whatever the brand, Eibach's, King Springs, Pedders, Spax etc.

My WQ is lowered on Eibach's with absolutely no problem whatsoever, looks just how it should have come out of the factory standard imo.

Coilovers will cost you a lot more money than lowered springs but you do have the ability to adjust the height on each corner independently and they will adjust either higher or lower than just lowered springs which are of course a set ride height.

The more expensive Coilovers also give you the ability to change the damper settings, ie: how hard or soft the ride itself is.

Bear in mind though that even at the softest damper setting most coilovers are generally a harder ride than lowered springs ... coilovers are more for track use and high performance street cars.

Personally I think lowered springs on a WS is the best way to go.

JClarke · 04-10-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Liri

I dropped mine 35mm with the pedders sprigs with no probs at all

Question though -- I had a look at the springs on the pedders website. Is it the same as you do have? How much did it costs you?

and does it affect with your car when your car goes up a steep driveway?

Fi.ES.TA · 04-10-2009, 10:50 PM

Ok thanks for the feedback.Im going to my ford dealer tomorrow
to see if they will allow me to lower it,i hope they do fingers crossed,i have the cash sitting here for the springs and i will buy the eibachs from european parts and have them shipped over.

robjh80 · 05-10-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fi.ES.TA

Ok thanks for the feedback.Im going to my ford dealer tomorrow
to see if they will allow me to lower it,i hope they do fingers crossed,i have the cash sitting here for the springs and i will buy the eibachs from european parts and have them shipped over.

Don't forget to check with your Insurance Company as well ... most of them don't cover any vehicle that has "been modified in any way whatsoever".

In essence you could be driving around without any Insurance and not even realise it.

JClarke · 06-10-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JClarke

Question though -- I had a look at the springs on the pedders website. Is it the same as you do have? How much did it costs you?

and does it affect with your car when your car goes up a steep driveway?

*ahem*

Liri · 06-10-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JClarke

Question though -- I had a look at the springs on the pedders website. Is it the same as you do have? How much did it costs you?

and does it affect with your car when your car goes up a steep driveway?

Yeah I got these ones
http://www.pedders.com.au/PS_images/...1245651663.pdf
Pedders wanted $360 for the springs alone or something like $500 for them fitted, I got mine through a mate at trade price and had them fitted for $300 all together

As for steep driveways I haven't encountered one yet so I cant help you out on that one

Fi.ES.TA · 06-10-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by robjh80

Don't forget to check with your Insurance Company as well ... most of them don't cover any vehicle that has "been modified in any way whatsoever".

In essence you could be driving around without any Insurance and not even realise it.

Ok still not had a chance to go to my dealer due to work commitments
but i phoned my insurance today,played dumb as if i did'nt have the wheels fitted and said i am planning on putting some new mag wheels on anyway's
to cut a long story short my policy is updated with the new mags on no extra charge,i questioned about lowering the car in the near future and they said i can lower the car with no extra charge aslong as its within legality
if i was to have a 3rd modification it will cost me an extra $60 ontop of my insurance yearly etc etc for more mods.

robjh80 · 06-10-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fi.ES.TA

i questioned about lowering the car in the near future and they said i can lower the car with no extra charge aslong as its within legality

Get them to send out a new policy with the mods added to it mate, I wouldn't just take their word for it over the phone.

Which Insurance company are you with? ... they dont sound too bad if they allow you to do a few things to the car without too much hassle.

Fi.ES.TA · 06-10-2009, 10:24 PM

Yeah new policy is being sent out tommorow with mods on (wheels) ;)
Insurance company is suncorp
I did forget to mention aswell that with having a clean liscence with no previous and no claims is one of the reason for no increase or extra excess.

Mike in OZ · 07-10-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JClarke

Question though -- I had a look at the springs on the pedders website. Is it the same as you do have? How much did it costs you?

and does it affect with your car when your car goes up a steep driveway?

Not sure about anybody else but at the standard height with standard rims I have had the front spoiler scrape the ground a few times when entering/exiting some car parks that have a combination of steep ramp, deep curb and road camber (e.g. car park next to the bottleshop in Nelson Bay, carpark next to Envy cafe in Summerhill (first spot along side the cafe rear entry). I am also very weary about car parking spaces which have the concrete strips across them to stop the wheels to prevent you driving too far forward - they can be quite high! Also some streets around Rozelle can have quite sharp gradients that change direction when you meet a road at a cross junction.

Perhaps all you other guys have nice flat roads, low curbs or are very careful where you drive and park. I must admit the fez does look great lowered and on 17's though!!

dannyhilton · 07-10-2009, 04:09 PM

I've had a few minor incidents, but I'm extremely cautious when driving into dips or around curbs. You're spot on with the concrete parking strips though, they are quite high can if you drive all the way up they can easily be taller than the front lip spoiler! I for one couldn't lower my car as I'm scared enough as is with the roads around Toowoomba.