Ford Class Action. Surprised no discussion?

[Samurai_Chris]

Hi guys. I look in from time to time, and am surprised that there has not been any discussion in regards to the Ford Class Action regarding the Focus? Myself and many others have joined this action due to the poor treatment that we have received from Ford. I just feel that although I "was" a staunch Ford man. How the treatment of this company has made me realise that it means little to this organisation. If you own a Focus, or intend to buy one, then you certainly need to know about the FACTS before purchasing. Or before you encounter problems. Because at the end of the day. You will be left in the dark, as Ford Australia refuses to take responsibility for the lemons that they are selling to the public.. Before you purchase, or before you get problems. You need to look at these two links...

http://fordclassaction.com.au/

www.fordfocuslemon.com.au

[aussiblue]

am surprised that there has not been any discussion in regards to the Ford Class Action regarding the Focus

But there has been lots of discussion on these and several other threads http://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11399507
http://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11451203

[JC]

Originally Posted by Samurai_Chris

Hi guys. I look in from time to time, and am surprised that there has not been any discussion in regards to the Ford Class Action regarding the Focus? Myself and many others have joined this action due to the poor treatment that we have received from Ford. I just feel that although I "was" a staunch Ford man. How the treatment of this company has made me realise that it means little to this organisation. If you own a Focus, or intend to buy one, then you certainly need to know about the FACTS before purchasing. Or before you encounter problems. Because at the end of the day. You will be left in the dark, as Ford Australia refuses to take responsibility for the lemons that they are selling to the public.. Before you purchase, or before you get problems. You need to look at these two links...

http://fordclassaction.com.au/

www.fordfocuslemon.com.au

Selling? Or sold? I was under the impression the issue was with some older models not any new ones....

[marg99]

you may be angry but incorrect statements do not help your cause. the fact that ford changed transmission types after the fault tells you a lot. how do you say it applys to current models?

[GTLEGEND]

Originally Posted by marg99

you may be angry but incorrect statements do not help your cause. the fact that ford changed transmission types after the fault tells you a lot. how do you say it applys to current models?

LZ Focus with Powershift Trans is whats fitted to the Ambiente in the US and Europe. They continue to use the transmission, its just Ford Australia chose not to bring the Ambiente to Australia in the LZ, just like we don't get many spec of models here. Manual 2.2L Everest is another example.

[Samurai_Chris]

Originally Posted by marg99

you may be angry but incorrect statements do not help your cause. the fact that ford changed transmission types after the fault tells you a lot. how do you say it applys to current models?

Is this comment related to me? If so. I have both a 2011 LW Focus Sport Sedan, and a 2011 LW Trend Hatch. Both are ******. And although there has been a recent face-lift. They are the current model...

[4cyl_Turbo]

Originally Posted by Samurai_Chris

Is this comment related to me? If so. I have both a 2011 LW Focus Sport Sedan, and a 2011 LW Trend Hatch. Both are ******. And although there has been a recent face-lift. They are the current model...

The LW isn't the current model.

Do some research before sprouting incorrect information.

The LZ is the current model and is completely different from your TWO cars.

[DZFord]

Spot on. The LZ Focus models in Aus come with a torque converter auto now.

[Pepscobra]

The class action against Ford has been dropped.
Bannister Law (law firm representing the class action) has since gone under due to the incurred costs of the no-win-no-fee structure they entered.
A friend of mine in the Perth office lost her job because of this.

[Samurai_Chris]

Originally Posted by Pepscobra

The class action against Ford has been dropped.
Bannister Law (law firm representing the class action) has since gone under due to the incurred costs of the no-win-no-fee structure they entered.
A friend of mine in the Perth office lost her job because of this.

Your proof of this is?

[Samurai_Chris]

Originally Posted by 4cyl_Turbo

The LW isn't the current model.

Do some research before sprouting incorrect information.

The LZ is the current model and is completely different from your TWO cars.

Wow, fair enough. My apologies. However, it still remains that Ford are still selling used LW's to unsuspecting buyer's, knowing full well of the problems they have... Can I assume you are the owner of an LZ? If so. I thought the LW was awesome too when I first got it! Just hope you never need to have any failures fixed... Your fanboy tune may not be so evident... Just saying.

[KosCo]

Originally Posted by Pepscobra

The class action against Ford has been dropped.

I am not disputing what you have said, but Bannister still have their lawsuit webpage up on their class action and a Goggle search can't anything that says it has been dropped.

[CatonaPC©]

Originally Posted by Samurai_Chris

However, it still remains that Ford are still selling used LW's to unsuspecting buyer's, knowing full well of the problems they have...

Ford are not able to sell a car they no longer make. Any LW would be on the used car market and it's a case of buyers needing to do their own research before they buy. That's the case for ANY used car, not just Ford models.

Research is the key.

[Samurai_Chris]

Originally Posted by CatonaPC©

Ford are not able to sell a car they no longer make. Any LW would be on the used car market and it's a case of buyers needing to do their own research before they buy. That's the case for ANY used car, not just Ford models.

Research is the key.

I just assumed everyone would understand that was my meaning. But thank you for the clarification

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Samurai_Chris

However, it still remains that Ford are still selling used LW's to unsuspecting buyer's, knowing full well of the problems they have

No they aren't. Ford are not involved in the sale of used LWs.

As for "knowing full well of the problems they have", I don't deny that some of the cars have issues. Friend of mine had an LW Focus from new and had to have the clutch replaced three times in the first six months that he had it. In the end, he managed to reach a settlement with Ford. He now drives a Civic. Another friend has a Powershift LW Focus with no issues.

But my own personal (admittedly limited) experience with Powershift (through driving dealer loan cars) has been positive. Would I buy one? I'd prefer manual in any event, but if there was no choice, I'd happily get a Powershift equipped car. I remain unconvinced that the problem is (a) widespread or (b) a safety issue.

If anything, the way you drive the car has an impact on how it behaves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W42zsFYjZvM

[SpoolMan]

Ford have been offering affected customers some nice drive away deals (healthy trade ins) on new model Ford's they want to move.

[XWGT]

I think in comparison to the Audi CVT disaster and the VW DSG disaster its probably been handled the best of the lot

[CatonaPC©]

Originally Posted by NX74205

Would I buy one? I'd prefer manual in any event, but if there was no choice, I'd happily get a Powershift equipped car. I remain unconvinced that the problem is (a) widespread or (b) a safety issue.

If anything, the way you drive the car has an impact on how it behaves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W42zsFYjZvM

Power shift, DSG or dual-clutch (whatever you want to call it) problems do exist and are widespread enough to cause headaches for for Ford, VW, Audi and others. It is a brilliant system unsuited for the heavy stop-start traffic encountered by most people. Ford have opted to ditch the gearbox in the LZ Focus for a conventional torque convertor transmission; proven technology with over 100 years of development and people don't have to drive it in any special way.

My experience with DSG in my Golf was that the system was brilliant when it worked well. Which was hardly ever. If you spent most of your time driving in rural areas, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend DSG, but for city driving? no. Not a chance.

[blue17]

I just took my wife's 2014 Focus Trend in for its 3 year service, my wife didn't have any concerns although when I occasionally drive it I sometimes get the shudder issue but most of the time when you give a decent amount of throttle it is fine. Anyway when I took it in they asked any issues I said no but there must be some sort of service bulletin out there to check the transmission for shudder as when I got it back they said they would replace the clutch and shaft seal at no cost which is happening in 2 weeks. I was told that they have been fitting new clutches since Oct 16. The new part number is F1FZ-7B546-B versus the old BV6Z-7B546-F. I assume it is just a new clutch material and some associated calibration changes. Has anybody had this done and is actually aware of the changes and noticed improvements? Overall, I enjoy driving the car as its reasonably zippy and corners well. Shame about the stupid sports manual mode operation which they have continued on with in the new model. I always seem to get service and backup from my Ford dealer.

[kevino]

Yes we had the new ceramic clutch fitted in February. So far so good.

[KosCo]

[QUOTE=blue17;5933772Has anybody had this done[/QUOTE]

I have 2012 Titanium and it had a second clutch installed about 5 weeks ago. Prior to this I had the usual shudders - not too bad but annoying. Since the new clutch went in, it has been very good. I actually enjoy driving the car again and often just take the car for a drive as it is so much more pleasant to drive now. Note that I said that the new clutch is only about 5 weeks old so will be interesting so see how it goes in the long term in say 6 moths and then in a year's time. I really hope that this new clutch continues the same way as it is now. Hope yours turns out well but for the moment I am very happy with this new clutch. It may be my imagination but after the new clutch was installed, I think the car now runs much more smoothly and quieter than before.

[kevino]

Yes agree it works really well but only time will tell. Re class action have letter from Bannister Law yesterday asking to sign off on ''litigation funding''. I guess this means that signees pay! Probably will sign up but wonder how this action will go now. In our case the servicing dealer has been good applied software upgrades and new clutches ( 4 in 58000km) provided a loan car to minimise disruption if booked a few days before. And now Ford have extended the warranty to 7 years on the powershift transmission.

So our car which is a Fiesta purchased new for 16 k will be good for 7 years at least as the rest of the car has given no issues whatsoever apart from a broken plastic bonnet clip fixed under warranty. So if we keep it say 7.5 years and its worth nothing it has had a capital cost of approximately $2300 a year pretty good in my eyes.

[marg99]

litigation funders take a large part of any settlement because they advance the funds and take a risk that the action will fail and they lose their funds.

[SpoolMan]

ACCC action against Ford over alleged unconscionable and misleading conduct

http://www.smh.com.au/business/consu...26-gxiwwt.html

thread closed same topic can be discussed here.

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https://fordforums.com.au/showthread...399507&page=18