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10-02-2016, 05:21 PM | #1 | |||
Bathed In A Yellow Glow
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10-02-2016, 05:44 PM | #2 | ||
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What local 5 seat ute would be protected? Agricultural they are but they are bloody handy.
I wish someone made a 6 seater with a tray, say bye bye to any people mover.
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10-02-2016, 05:56 PM | #3 | |||
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Falcon? Commodore? Territory? Camry? Cruze?
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10-02-2016, 05:57 PM | #4 | ||
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How does this affect a private buyer of one of these utes??? If the fringe benefits tax was applied, how much would they go up for a non tradie/farmer????
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10-02-2016, 06:07 PM | #5 | |||
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Sure ute's may be handy for carrying bikes for example, but even then they don't fit comfortably on a dual cab tray, or loads of soil etc, but for 95% of other cases a wagon is handier for things like camping gear, prams, luggage, groceries or basically anything you want kept out of the weather or secure. Thats of course referring to average home users, not tradesmen, as the tradesmen would never have bought the people mover anyway. |
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10-02-2016, 06:25 PM | #6 | ||
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Id take a 6 seater dual cab ute thing over a Territory, my C4, or any other SUV 7 seater. It would be gold.
My C4 Picasso has a column shift, just no bench seat :( (but it seats 7 anyway). Im a glamper, I just want somethign that I can fit 4 kids in and throw some bikes/camping gear in the back for a weekend. Any longer and I am in a hotel.
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10-02-2016, 06:30 PM | #7 | ||
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Big Brother is watching and will squeeze out every last cent from your wallet. Someone needs to pay for all the ex-prime minsters retirement funds for life.
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10-02-2016, 07:01 PM | #9 | ||
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Most people I know that drive dual cabs bought them because they wanted them. Not for any tax benefit.
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10-02-2016, 07:13 PM | #10 | ||||
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10-02-2016, 08:29 PM | #11 | ||
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10-02-2016, 08:31 PM | #12 | ||
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That article was absolutely terrible.
Josh says "Tax office is spying on you at the footy" ATO says "no, we don't do that". Give that man an award for hard hitting journalism. He must be trying to get a gig at a current affair. What a knob. |
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10-02-2016, 08:46 PM | #13 | ||
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My employer traded FG falcon XR6 and R6 ute for 4X4 crew cab ranger and D-max for tax/lease dollar reasons. XR6 became a luxury item and not available for government purchase and LPG cars became too expencive. The need is for a 2 seat vehicle that can travel at least 10 000Km a year and up to 200Km a day. be a stupid fleet operator that purchased vehicles that was uneconomical or had high resale/profit value.
10 years ago tax man set up at boat ramps and checked on vehicle use and made a lot of dollars. yes the article was rubbish but it was printed for a reason.
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10-02-2016, 08:49 PM | #14 | |||
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My accountant related the same story at least 15 years ago! FBT has always applied unless the vehicle is strictly for work purposes.. Nothing new. More likely they'll close the GST & LCT saving on commercial vehicles (utes)
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10-02-2016, 09:08 PM | #15 | |||
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They don't look like tradies to me |
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10-02-2016, 09:17 PM | #16 | ||
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10-02-2016, 09:41 PM | #17 | ||
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I'd remove the FBT exemtion and run a log book. The way the system is now actually hinders someone who can do 10,000 genuine business k's a year but doesn't do the km's 12 weeks in a row.
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10-02-2016, 10:12 PM | #18 | |||
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Was the tax benefit applied to the dual cab utes when these were in production??? Last edited by superyob; 10-02-2016 at 10:20 PM. |
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10-02-2016, 10:23 PM | #19 | |||
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FBT is a tax paid by companies on the private use of a company supplied vehicle to an employee. But one tonne commercial vehicles / dual cabs / utes are exempt. For example .... If your company supplies you a Falcon as a company car, they will pay FBT on your behalf for the private use. This has not effected the price we pay for Falcons. |
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11-02-2016, 08:14 AM | #20 | ||
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Is it not reasonable to assume that if tax breaks were not handed out for imported cars, our local utes may have sold in larger volume, thus helping to keep local manufacture alive???
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11-02-2016, 08:26 AM | #21 | ||
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sadly, even if the local products sold in the volumes they did at their best, it would still not be viable to keep producing them.
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11-02-2016, 09:41 AM | #22 | |||
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I do ask with genuine interest as utes do seem more common now as a family vehicle, but I honestly don't see the benefits for most people, and actually can think of many cons with owning one. Maybe you can enlighten me. |
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11-02-2016, 10:23 AM | #23 | ||
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11-02-2016, 10:39 AM | #24 | |||
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Most of the stuff mentioned above I wouldn't want to put in the wagon, some people couldn't care about fuel mud etc in a wagon though.
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11-02-2016, 12:09 PM | #25 | ||
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It wouldn't surprise me if ato was spying on people , the resources are there to track most peoples everyday comings and goings , big brother is watching !
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11-02-2016, 12:23 PM | #26 | ||
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i don't think they are too worried about mum and dad, the cost to retrieve would cost more than they would get back. they target companies, a lot more cream doing that
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11-02-2016, 03:08 PM | #28 | ||
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i dunno Giant Cranium , they look to be on the hunt for revenue , i would not put anything past them.
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11-02-2016, 03:56 PM | #29 | |||
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Such dual cab are a pain but many just have to put up with it, they really are just junk, have you ever sat in the back of one, they are hell if you are over 6ft or you want your backbone smashed to bits. I would not ever get into the back of one if I was payed too. |
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11-02-2016, 05:03 PM | #30 | |||
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