|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
02-09-2010, 11:48 AM | #1 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 3,111
|
I'm looking for a newish small car
something that handles ok and has reasonable power i'm after a 3 door 5sp 1.6 to 2.0l so far i'm keen on the fiesta or barina i would like to use it for track days just for fun but mainly driving in city traffic 400km a week i like the ford looks better but the holden has more power anyone got any good reasons to get one or the other? and don't say get the ford not the holden
__________________
CURRENT RIDES BA GT Mk1 #0009 - Narooma Blue SY Ghia AWD Black VZ LX8 Adventra Holden HX 50th Anniversary AU Saloon Car racecar 1980 GS1000ST - Wes Cooley Rep
|
||
02-09-2010, 11:56 AM | #2 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 100
|
If u like me and like going thru roundabouts fast your best bet is the fiesta mine is lowered tho, i have driven the new barina dont knw what the engine capacity is but it ddnt feel faster than my fiesta
|
||
02-09-2010, 12:49 PM | #3 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 49
|
Mate, get an XR4!
You will not regret it! To highlight how good they are, someone on the Ford XR4 forum who originally drove an XR4 wants to sell their new Mazda 3 MPS for another XR4, after only owning it for a couple of months! They are FANTASTIC cars! |
||
02-09-2010, 12:51 PM | #4 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 3,111
|
out of my price range but yes i'd love one of those
__________________
CURRENT RIDES BA GT Mk1 #0009 - Narooma Blue SY Ghia AWD Black VZ LX8 Adventra Holden HX 50th Anniversary AU Saloon Car racecar 1980 GS1000ST - Wes Cooley Rep
|
||
02-09-2010, 01:06 PM | #5 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Queensland
Posts: 1,801
|
I don't think you'll find too many who will recommend the SRi over the Fiesta Zetec here! My first car was a Fiesta WP Zetec, and it was the best first car I could have got. Reliable, efficient, great to drive (better than the WS Fiesta Zetec) and a little rorty engine that loves to be revved. Go get a Fiesta, you will not regret it. Chuck on the body kit, some bigger wheels, add a stereo and it's the ultimate little pimp car!
__________________
CURRENT: 2017 Escape Titanium 2.0L EcoBoost with Technology Pack in White Platinum PREVIOUS 2015 Fiesta ST / 2012 Focus Titanium / 2009 Fiesta Zetec / 2004 Fiesta Zetec |
||
02-09-2010, 01:08 PM | #6 | |||
Back to Le Frenchy
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Back home.....
Posts: 13,346
|
How old are you looking at and what price range?
__________________
Quote:
07 Renault Sport Megane F1 Team R26 #1397
|
|||
02-09-2010, 01:20 PM | #7 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 49
|
You can pick up a good example for about 17k now if you look around.
Surely you will struggle to find a 2009 Zetec for less than 14-15k? |
||
02-09-2010, 01:22 PM | #8 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 49
|
Ah sorry mate I miss read your original post - thought you said WS, not WP. Sorry!
|
||
02-09-2010, 02:08 PM | #9 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,165
|
I have not long ago got my WQ Fiesta. Love her to bits as my daily
Has the get up & go when needed, handles like a go kart (especially now I have new tyres on her), is super fuel efficient and is still a head turner up here around Dubbo...... Would thoroughly recommend one of these to anyone !!! |
||
02-09-2010, 03:05 PM | #10 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,053
|
You want this car for "track days" ?? ... and you're looking at a 74kw WP Fiesta?
Out of your two listed options, the Barina SRi with it's 92kw engine would be your best bet by a long way .. (for the intended purpose that is). As Jorgo said, if you can stretch your budget, the XR4 would be perfect. Iv'e owned a WQ Zetec and a WQ XR4 and they are just two completely different animals. When I owned the Zetec it always felt like it needed more power, I found it quite a frustrating car to be honest, it just had no "get up and go", you would plant the accelerator in traffic perhaps looking to make a lane change up ahead or something similar .. and nothing would happen! .. you always had to look way ahead and pre-judge your intended moves all the time .... the XR4 on the other hand has plenty of zip for a car of this size and as a result is a lot easier to drive and a lot safer too imo. |
||
02-09-2010, 03:38 PM | #11 | |||
Back to Le Frenchy
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Back home.....
Posts: 13,346
|
Look at an 05-06 Peugeot 206 GTi 180. 124kw, 1050kg, excellent handling, lots of niceties inside, great looks all for 15-17k.
__________________
Quote:
07 Renault Sport Megane F1 Team R26 #1397
|
|||
02-09-2010, 03:41 PM | #12 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,128
|
i would go for the Fiesta. The Barina SRI has the 1.8L engine, which means timing belt every 60K. which at 400km's a week wont take long to get there, plus high stress track days...
the fiesta is awesome, i have also got it as a first car, and love it to bits. handling is awesome, power is not too bad if you work it, and fuel economy is fantastic. also its comfortable, reliable, well built, and if you really want more power, im sure you could get some sort of tune to sort that out. that would be my pick... infact we looked at the barina SRI also, but fiesta came out on top. |
||
02-09-2010, 05:39 PM | #13 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 100
|
i must admit the barina looks good, the fiesta aint slow for city driving those that are finding it slow probably dont knw how to work the gears keep it past 3500 rpm n u ll be good
|
||
02-09-2010, 06:21 PM | #14 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 53
|
Quote:
|
|||
02-09-2010, 07:17 PM | #15 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Queensland
Posts: 1,801
|
Quote:
__________________
CURRENT: 2017 Escape Titanium 2.0L EcoBoost with Technology Pack in White Platinum PREVIOUS 2015 Fiesta ST / 2012 Focus Titanium / 2009 Fiesta Zetec / 2004 Fiesta Zetec |
|||
02-09-2010, 08:07 PM | #16 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 186
|
you can steer the WS with ur bloody pinky!! lol
__________________
2010 Zetec Fiesta: 1.4l auto To date: Phillips H1 & H7 Bluevision bulbs, K&N Panel filter,Centre console, clicon system for gps To Do: 17" wheels and possibly lowering |
||
02-09-2010, 08:15 PM | #17 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,984
|
Zetec came out in 04 SRi earlier, you will find a lower km newer Zetec at around the same price as an SRi which might be older. Seems to be that way from what I can see. I think you will be happy with either! They will both have their pros and cons, it depends on what you want!
__________________
2023 Mustang Ecoboost HPP Fastback manual Grabber Blue/Magneride/Body colour pack/Forged alloy wheels find me on instagram @adm.history for daily automotive historical Australian advertisements. |
||
02-09-2010, 09:03 PM | #18 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 612
|
Quote:
Only thing he didnt like was some of the servicing costs were expensive.. |
|||
02-09-2010, 09:10 PM | #19 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,053
|
Quote:
For the record, I have been driving for over 30 years, have owned and driven many cars during that time, small and large, sedate slow ones to extremely fast ones! Perhaps with these years of driving experience I can look at each car on it's own merits and don't automatically think a small 74kw car is anything resembling a race car. Perhaps if you're a young first time driver, just got your P Plates venturing out onto the road for the first time, you may think in your own mind that the Fiesta is a real road weapon! .. clearly some of the comments around this forum from certain owners over the years and with what I personally witness out on the road itself would certainly attest to this, unfortunately I hate to break the bad news to you guys .. It Isn't! I think the Fiesta is a fantastic, well built, good quality honest product, the WP/WQ models look absolutely fantastic and I think Ford designers really threw away the moulds after that model and it all went downhill from there. I don't particularly like the WS model, quite possibly never will, time will tell, but then it's been out a while now and it's still not doing anything for me .... I have never made any effort to fake my views on the WS Fiesta or any other car for that matter around this or any other forum. If you guys who own WS Fiesta's like the design of them and are happy with the car itself.. great, because at the end of the day ... that's what it's all about, it would be a very boring world it we all liked exactly the same things wouldn't it. The OP gave us two vehicle options with the intention of using the vehicle for "track days" ... given that criteria there is only one possible and reasonable choice out of the two .. 92kw performance oriented vehicle vs 74kw everyday use, allrounder vehicle? .. Had he not mentioned "track days" and "reasonable power" in his original post .. I would have without any doubt whatsoever recommended the WP Fiesta over the Siesta built Barina. And Yes, by the way .. I think by now I would have worked out how "to work the gears" and "keep it past 3500 rpm" .. it's hardly rocket science is it but thanks anyhow for the driving tip. |
|||
02-09-2010, 09:21 PM | #20 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Queensland
Posts: 1,801
|
Wow those comments about the WS came from no where? I didn't realise the car was in question.
Neither the Fiesta or the Barina is particularly fast, doesn't take a genius to work that out. I suggested the Fiesta based on nothing more than my experience with both a WP and WS Zetec, but matey, best bet would be to drive both. That way you can experience both the pros and cons of each, and evaluate them for yourself. But my recommendation stands for the Fiesta :-)
__________________
CURRENT: 2017 Escape Titanium 2.0L EcoBoost with Technology Pack in White Platinum PREVIOUS 2015 Fiesta ST / 2012 Focus Titanium / 2009 Fiesta Zetec / 2004 Fiesta Zetec |
||
02-09-2010, 10:28 PM | #21 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,128
|
power isnt everything... how the car feels and the all round pleasure of it (for want of a better word) is how you should base the your choice, especially for track day use.
i can recommend the fiesta as i know for a fact it is overall a great car to drive, whether its in the city or having a go up some mountain roads. i cant say anything about the barina as i have never driven one let alone been in one. so as danny said, drive both see what you like more. |
||
02-09-2010, 10:37 PM | #22 | ||
Lil Henry
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Townsville Nth Queensland
Posts: 168
|
Thinks the peugeot 206 would be a better bet or a older Golf GTI
|
||
02-09-2010, 11:04 PM | #23 | ||||
Back to Le Frenchy
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Back home.....
Posts: 13,346
|
Quote:
__________________
Quote:
07 Renault Sport Megane F1 Team R26 #1397
|
||||
03-09-2010, 08:30 AM | #24 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,053
|
Quote:
"The WS still handles sensationally, but at low speed the electric steering feel is a little numb, and very light." And this little pearler .. "I have no doubt the WS is a better car" .. Mate .. stop it, you're killing me! You are still very young and as such, have very limited driving experience ... if you and "fiestaz" keep coming up with comments like these .. "having a go up some mountain roads." and "Chuck on the body kit, some bigger wheels, add a stereo and it's the ultimate little pimp car!" I might hang around a little longer, this is getting hilarious! |
|||
03-09-2010, 09:26 AM | #25 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 49
|
Lol I musta missed that post about it being "the ultimate little pimp car".
I guess we're all got different tastes Anyway, I fear this might turn into a massive flaming contest. So back to the OP's requirements. If he posts his price range and priorities (i.e. track vs everyday driving etc) then we can probably give him more constructive feedback. Until that maybe everyone should chill lol |
||
03-09-2010, 10:33 AM | #26 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 100
|
Quote:
Last edited by fiestars; 03-09-2010 at 10:43 AM. |
|||
03-09-2010, 10:39 AM | #27 | ||
Steve
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sth East Qld
Posts: 1,284
|
early reanault clio sport.Early ones are in your price range.132 kw 2.0 and out handle the others and with recaro seats.
__________________
Currently no Fords . 2005 Statesman International 5.7, Mazda 2 and a Hilux. Former Fords: 2010 Ford Escape 2007 BF11 GT, TE50 Series 1 ,AU V8 One Tonner ,EL Falcon Wagon, ED Fairmont , EB Falcon Series 1. Mk 2 Cortina Company Fords : 3 BA Falcons , EB 11 Falcon Wagon , Ford F350 351 V8. |
||
03-09-2010, 10:56 AM | #28 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Queensland
Posts: 1,801
|
Quote:
If it makes you feel better by bringing other people down then so be it, being older you should know better than to attack other people for their opinions. i never once suggested you opinions were wrong. Have a great day
__________________
CURRENT: 2017 Escape Titanium 2.0L EcoBoost with Technology Pack in White Platinum PREVIOUS 2015 Fiesta ST / 2012 Focus Titanium / 2009 Fiesta Zetec / 2004 Fiesta Zetec |
|||
03-09-2010, 12:52 PM | #29 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 49
|
Quote:
TBH I don't know much about the hot hatch Renault's. From the little bit I've heard they're awesome cars - I just wish the current batch were a bit cheaper! |
|||
03-09-2010, 02:02 PM | #30 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 3,111
|
thanks for the comments. i am looking at a base model 04 fiesta this weekend and a 2001 SRi similar price but i'm leaning towards the ford
as per my track day comment at the moment i use my almost stock 99 AU XR8 auto which i'll end up selling and would like use the new car for this (not competition just fun) i'm not into secondhand french cars..sorry and my budget is under $10k
__________________
CURRENT RIDES BA GT Mk1 #0009 - Narooma Blue SY Ghia AWD Black VZ LX8 Adventra Holden HX 50th Anniversary AU Saloon Car racecar 1980 GS1000ST - Wes Cooley Rep
|
||