Any news on FG2?

BFYOOT · 20-05-2011, 11:31 AM

Sorry to bring this up again but have been out of the loop for a while now. Has there been any news on release of the FG2 recently? Last I heard release was more likely to be end of year, is this still pretty accurate? Any news on changes, or we still looking predominantly at the changes seen on the Terry?

Paxton · 20-05-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BFYOOT

Sorry to bring this up again but have been out of the loop for a while now. Has there been any news on release of the FG2 recently? Last I heard release was more likely to be end of year, is this still pretty accurate? Any news on changes, or we still looking predominantly at the changes seen on the Terry?

Yep. Still on track.

Mules will be out and about soonish.

BFYOOT · 20-05-2011, 12:17 PM

Nice, hope so. Cant wait.

Road_Warrior · 20-05-2011, 12:34 PM

People have seen bra-clad Falcons running around You Yangs recently.

September/October is supposed to be the reveal date??

blk6t · 20-05-2011, 12:38 PM

I wonder how many people will actually purchase a new FG2?

Ford NEED to market the car heavily...alot of people on the forums appear to be holding our for the FG2 and updated FPV range. I hope these people follow through and help the sales numbers.

BFYOOT · 20-05-2011, 01:02 PM

I have extended the lease on my current xr8 ute holding out for the upgrade. If the upgrade is decent, I will be looking at a new one for sure.

Smoke Pursuit · 20-05-2011, 01:13 PM

Will be interesting to see...

**Dave R** · 20-05-2011, 01:21 PM

I think there was an interview at an autoshow with one of the designers that implied the Falcon would get the new corporate front end treatment, kind of like they did with Territory. That plus the Territory touch screen, EPAS, maybe some new wheels & perhaps a different tail light jewel. That's what I'm expecting.

Road_Warrior · 20-05-2011, 01:22 PM

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Will be interesting to see...

Yes it will be interesting to see the extent of the "update" and whether it will simply be a minor visual and technical facelift a-la BA to BF or something more substantial. You'd have to be pretty safe in assuming it should pick up all of the SZ Territory's new features though...

G6E TURBO 270KW · 20-05-2011, 03:33 PM

NO EPAS for FG2

SS_01 · 20-05-2011, 04:51 PM

excuse my ignorance, what is EPAS? also, is ford showing the FG2 at the International Melbourne Motorshow?

FG XR · 20-05-2011, 05:04 PM

Can't wait to see what I can get for my car come fg2 ;) lol

zebby · 20-05-2011, 05:06 PM

Lets hope the launch and release is not as farcical as the updated Territory !!!

383 GXL · 20-05-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blk6t

I wonder how many people will actually purchase a new FG2?

Ford NEED to market the car heavily...alot of people on the forums appear to be holding our for the FG2 and updated FPV range. I hope these people follow through and help the sales numbers.

they will still be dreaming of the fg 3

Quicksand · 20-05-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blk6t

I wonder how many people will actually purchase a new FG2?

Ford NEED to market the car heavily...alot of people on the forums appear to be holding our for the FG2 and updated FPV range. I hope these people follow through and help the sales numbers.

Ive got my eye on an FG2 XR6 or G6/E on LiLPG. Can't keep shelling out $85 a week on petrol. Will wait to see what happens with the LPG excise first tho.

block58 · 20-05-2011, 06:53 PM

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excuse my ignorance, what is EPAS? also, is ford showing the FG2 at the International Melbourne Motorshow?

Electric power assisted steering, like on the new Territory. Doesn't rely on the engine to run a pump so therefore saves fuel. Heard on here somewhere that it wont be going into the FG2 due to space constraints (also the post by G6E TURBO 270kw).

vztrt · 20-05-2011, 08:07 PM

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Ive got my eye on an FG2 XR6 or G6/E on LiLPG. Can't keep shelling out $85 a week on petrol. Will wait to see what happens with the LPG excise first tho.

Excise not even starting till December now.

SS_01 · 20-05-2011, 09:35 PM

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Electric power assisted steering, like on the new Territory. Doesn't rely on the engine to run a pump so therefore saves fuel. Heard on here somewhere that it wont be going into the FG2 due to space constraints (also the post by G6E TURBO 270kw).

Thanks mate

Quicksand · 20-05-2011, 10:19 PM

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Excise not even starting till December now.

Ah ok cheers, guess i will be waiting a little longer then. I really want to see what kind of impact the excise has on the price of LPG. It's kind of pointless switching to LPG if it is to be as expensive as petrol within 12 months. Aside from being greener.

naddis01 · 20-05-2011, 10:24 PM

The excise for LPG is going to 12.5c/L so I don't see how it is going to be as expensive as petrol?

Adamz Ghia · 20-05-2011, 10:26 PM

From memory, the excise was to be 12.5 cents. LPG is currently 59.9 cents in Geelong, so when it kicks in it will be 72.4 cents. Petrol is currently $1.36.9 a litre. Still works out well.

Road_Warrior · 20-05-2011, 10:27 PM

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Ah ok cheers, guess i will be waiting a little longer then. I really want to see what kind of impact the excise has on the price of LPG. It's kind of pointless switching to LPG if it is to be as expensive as petrol within 12 months. Aside from being greener.

It will never be as expensive as petrol and the full excise won't be realised until 2015.

84xespac · 20-05-2011, 10:35 PM

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It will never be as expensive as petrol and the full excise won't be realised until 2015.

Remember when we use to say that about diesel only a few years ago.

Road_Warrior · 20-05-2011, 10:39 PM

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Remember when we use to say that about diesel only a few years ago.

Yes but diesel was never half the price of petrol and had twice the excise LPG will have.

bmorris · 20-05-2011, 11:54 PM

Make sure to always factor in how much LPG it takes to go the same distance on petrol when comparing. I think its 2/3s or a figure close to that.

Thats to say LPG could never be the same price as petrol or no one would bother.

nasss92 · 21-05-2011, 02:20 AM

lets focus on something im sure every potential buyer and ford enthusiast really cares about.. the performance !

surely they arent going to bring out a petrol barra with the same power outputs as the liLPG ... thers so much potential for the falcon setup n/a and turbo to boost efficiency and power outputs .. hopefully they start with that damn restrictive exhaust, maybe a slightly raised compression level, even a tune package would be nice (imagine an xr6 with an option for economy or performance tune via something like a factory x cal 3 tune, first in the aussie market - i would imagine record sales if that wer the case)

hopefully some logic kicks in for the ford engineers and they make use of some simple technologies at their disposal.. brake packages would be good too, some choice aftermarket slotted discs and pads as $1k extra would be nice

surely ther must be some word on the street as too some improved performance mods... have any mules been picked up coming out of the factory?? some overexcited ford crewman would have to have blabbed to his mates about the new release falcon by now, they need to have the product pretty much ready and parts selected for final testing atleast 9-12 months before production right?

DanielXR8 · 21-05-2011, 04:55 PM

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lets focus on something im sure every potential buyer and ford enthusiast really cares about.. the performance !

surely they arent going to bring out a petrol barra with the same power outputs as the liLPG ... thers so much potential for the falcon setup n/a and turbo to boost efficiency and power outputs .. hopefully they start with that damn restrictive exhaust, maybe a slightly raised compression level, even a tune package would be nice (imagine an xr6 with an option for economy or performance tune via something like a factory x cal 3 tune, first in the aussie market - i would imagine record sales if that wer the case)

hopefully some logic kicks in for the ford engineers and they make use of some simple technologies at their disposal.. brake packages would be good too, some choice aftermarket slotted discs and pads as $1k extra would be nice

surely ther must be some word on the street as too some improved performance mods... have any mules been picked up coming out of the factory?? some overexcited ford crewman would have to have blabbed to his mates about the new release falcon by now, they need to have the product pretty much ready and parts selected for final testing atleast 9-12 months before production right?

nass92, while it would be nice if Ford did a partnership deal with a third party supplier for performance parts, that were still under warranty, in all honesty I don't think your needs will be or need to be the priority for FG2.

The performance enthusiast will find the suppliers and do their own thing, like you will no doubt do. The ones Ford need to catch are the guy who had a BA as a fleet or personal car and swore off Falcon after quality and warranty issues or the guy who looks at a 40K Falcon and wonder why it has half the equipment of a Korean car.

Raising build quality, improving the standard equipment and improving the customer ownership experience will benefit Ford and a lot more potential customers, then squeezing a few kilowatts out of a already competitive package or tweaking brake packages that will only sell in the hundreds at best.

For every performance enthusiast like yourself who have stuck with Ford, there is four or more ordinary folks who have walked from the brand. They are the key to Falcons future in my opinion. They are the ones who FGII must appeal to.

Dan

Perko · 21-05-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blk6t

I wonder how many people will actually purchase a new FG2?

Ford NEED to market the car heavily...alot of people on the forums appear to be holding our for the FG2 and updated FPV range. I hope these people follow through and help the sales numbers.

If Ford release a XR8 ute with the FG2 (maybe wishful tinking here), then this may be the car that gets me out of the BA.

SM1DY · 21-05-2011, 07:17 PM

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If Ford release a XR8 ute with the FG2 (maybe wishful tinking here), then this may be the car that gets me out of the BA.

This is what I'm waiting for. I remain optimistic about the chances of the XR8 returning to production.

**Polyal** · 21-05-2011, 07:40 PM

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This is what I'm waiting for. I remain optimistic about the chances of the XR8 returning to production.

While the sales maybe ticking over I am sure FPV/Ford will be forced to make some kind of decision with the XR8.

Anyone know where we can access FPV sales data? If there not moving atleast 25-50% more then they are in trouble.

Maybe the XR8/GS debacle included a grace period for FPV and Miami....either way its an easy way to get a few more numbers on the board.