Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-12-2005, 08:42 PM   #1
GTP 044
Formally RED XR8
 
GTP 044's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mornington, Vic
Posts: 1,463
Default Bad smell

Hi everyone,
Just wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me. I've got a 2004 XR8 auto with 19,000kms on it, when you give her a bootfull and then stop I am getting a really bad egg smell from the exhaust. Does this mean she's out of tune or is this normal? Thanks in advance.

GTP 044 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-12-2005, 08:47 PM   #2
XAGSV8
Member 178
 
XAGSV8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rockhampton
Posts: 1,385
Default

Egg smell is unleaded petrol after it has been burnt through the engine. You don't have an exhaust leak do you?
__________________
1972 XA GS Fairmont

1963 Morris Mini

1999 NU Fairlane Ghia
XAGSV8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-12-2005, 09:10 PM   #3
ltd
Force Fed Fords
 
ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Enroute
Posts: 4,050
Default

I thought it had more to do with enrichment and partially unburnt fuel passing through the catalytic converter in the exhaust. Normally the cat takes care of the smell but when you force enough pressure through it it is unable to deal with such a large volume so quickly. It is normal and you'll find after about 2 or so minutes of less spirited driving the exhaust smell should return to normal. I have the same with all my vehicles when you give it a bit.
__________________
If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to power an ants go-cart a half a lap around a Cheerio - Ron Shirley


Quote:
Powered by GE
ltd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-12-2005, 11:05 PM   #4
MO
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
MO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: QLD
Posts: 4,446
Default

Thats the carcinogens from the unleaded coming to give you cancer...I'm serious!!!!!!
__________________
FORD RULES OK

The more I know ppl the more I love my DOGS.
2011 SY Territory Limited Edition TS
2000 AUII SE ute IL6
MO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-12-2005, 11:13 PM   #5
MYVYSS
Back where I belong
 
MYVYSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mexico - Victoria
Posts: 947
Default

As stated above or you have a problem with your Cats, get it checked its normally the smell the EPA and or Law Enforcement looks for just before they fine you the 10k for gutted cats
__________________
Regards

Craig
MYVYSS is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-12-2005, 11:14 PM   #6
GT-E
 
GT-E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sidonee
Posts: 1,062
Default

The smell is Sulphur Dioxide (egg gas) and ltd is right, its caused by your cat not able to process all the gass flowing through it.
You should not be able to smell it unless you have a exhaust leak or there is a bad boot seal that is allowing exhaust back into the cabin through the boot.
Either way it is not good and should be checked out as another product of exhaust is carbon monoxide, it is colourless and smelless and will kill you.
GT-E is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-12-2005, 12:02 AM   #7
LOWAU
___________
 
LOWAU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 611
Default

Try running premium fuel instead of regular.

It worked for me, but I drive an AU 6cyl.
LOWAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-12-2005, 12:57 AM   #8
zetec
Zoom Zoom
 
zetec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Posts: 4,352
Default

The exact smell I had the week my cat died. New cat = no more smell.
__________________
2012 Mazda3 MPS
zetec is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-12-2005, 01:16 AM   #9
gtfpv
GT
 
gtfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
Default

yep catalytic convertors on thier way out . next will be the rattle . .
gtfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-12-2005, 10:10 AM   #10
pauljh74
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
pauljh74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,602
Default

Sounds like Hyundai-itis. My Mum's Excel did the same - took it to the dealer and was told this was "normal". Aussie fuel is supposedly higher in Sulphur content, so cars like the Hyundai have cats that aren't quite up to the job it seems. But you wouldn't expect it from a Falcon - especially one so new. Probably is a case of the cats having a problem, get it checked
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Webber
Not bad for a #2 driver
Mark Webber after winning the 2010 British Grand Prix.
pauljh74 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-12-2005, 09:13 PM   #11
GTP 044
Formally RED XR8
 
GTP 044's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mornington, Vic
Posts: 1,463
Default

Thanks for that guys, will get it checked out.
GTP 044 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-12-2005, 09:29 PM   #12
GRNKPR
DPC PERFORMANCE Race prep
 
GRNKPR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bundoora Victoria
Posts: 3,379
Default

could be from EXECJIM he dosnt shower that often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
__________________
: : i will excell with the knowledge i get on here : :


FPV & XR Owners Club of Victoria FPV & XR Owners Club of Victoria FPV & XR Owners Club of Victoria FPV & XR Owners Club of Victoria

Ford Performance Car ClubFord Performance Car ClubFord Performance Car ClubFord Performance Car Club
GRNKPR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-12-2005, 11:58 PM   #13
LOWAU
___________
 
LOWAU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 611
Default

No it shouldn't be the cat because I changed it when getting a full exaust and still got the smell, not as bad thou.
LOWAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-12-2005, 07:45 AM   #14
LTDHO
The one and only
 
LTDHO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Carrum Downs, Victoria
Posts: 9,053
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zetec
The exact smell I had the week my cat died. New cat = no more smell.
Exactly, one of the signs of a dieing Cat convertor is the egg smell.
__________________
1992 DC LTDHO 360rwkw built by me
Tuned by CVE Performance
Going of the rails on a crazy train
Other cars include Dynamic ED Sprint, Dynamic DL LTD, Sparkling Burgundy DL LTD, Yellow, Red & Blue XB sedan & Black XB Coupe
LTDHO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-12-2005, 03:19 PM   #15
Bobman
Regulator
 
Bobman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 4,168
Default

All BA Falcon's have an eggy / weird smell even when driven moderately to normal...

Have seen this from *every* BA I've been behind, including my own.
__________________
Regards
Bobby

Current Cars:
2000 AU2 Fairmont (2019-current)
2003 BA1 Falcon Divvy Van (2017-current)
2009 VW Mk6 Golf 118TSi (2020-current)
Previous Cars:
2003 MCX10R Avalon VXi (2017-2020)
1995 EF1 Falcon GLi (2016-2019)
1997 XH2 Falcon Van OPT20 (2016-2019)
2006 BF Fairlane Ghia (2013-2018)
2001 AU3 Futura (2010-2013)
1996 EL Fairmont (2008-2010)
2004 BA XR6 (2005-2008)
2001 AU2 Forte (2005-2006)
1988 EA Fairmont Ghia (2003-2005)
1984 AR Telstar TX5 Ghia (2001-2005)
Bobman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-12-2005, 11:05 PM   #16
EASYBOSS
Matakana NZ
Donating Member3
 
EASYBOSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Matakana NZ
Posts: 3,671
Default

My 2003 Mk1 BA EX8 has had the same severe bad smell about 6 months ago, and did not know what it was. I use 91 (company car) from any gas station and always leave it until the tank empty to fill ,as I hate the waste of time filling up. The smell was always after a bit of stick. The BA was also serviced during the period of the smell, with no difference. For no apparent reason the smell has gone, I have no reason why and can only put it down to the gas/mix of fules at the time.
__________________
SOLD : BA XR8 4 Speed Auto in Mercury Silver, Bluepower CIA, Full Diffilipo Big Boy Quad System, Tune, 4.11 Diff Gears, FPV Starter Button, FPV GT Rear Spoiler, Tripod Gauges, PWR Trans Cooler. 230 RWKW's. Many thanks to Chris at Bluepower Racing Developments

Hers : F6X build #150 in Ego, Stock as a Rock, untill the warranty runs out, including the extended one.

My Work Wagon AU Futura Wagon in Gold.

On the Farm : Ford 6600 Tractor
EASYBOSS is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-12-2005, 11:12 AM   #17
Mack 6
SUMP PLUG
 
Mack 6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 875
Default

I have the same rotten egg smell coming from me as well. The funny thing is I don't have a cat. The parents have one, and the missus has one. Could this be the cause?
It's really embarrassing at parties and in elevators.
I really hope that neither cats die, both parties would be distraught.






I cant believe I'm the first to make fun of an egg smell thread!!
Mack 6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-12-2005, 11:23 AM   #18
Thunder
I.B.S is a pain in d'***
 
Thunder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Central Coast NSW
Posts: 1,431
Default

My old ED falcon made the same smell when ever i gave it a flogging! i thought it was normal for unleaded cars to smell that way when they are given a thrashing.
__________________
I DONT BELIEVE IN NOS.............but if its given to you free at the hospital well then
Thunder is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-12-2005, 06:47 PM   #19
ltd
Force Fed Fords
 
ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Enroute
Posts: 4,050
Default

red, does the gas smell normal after a couple of minutes normal driving?
If it does, then there are no problems; refer to my earlier post above about enrichment. You'll also find at the same time that you give it a bit you'll get what appears to be a little black/grey smoke coming out of the exhaust. This is perfectly normal and is a little particulate from the over rich mixture that occurs when you flog it. Not all of the fuel is burnt properly under rich conditions and as such the cat cannot ensure all unburnt fuel is treated within the cat due to the above average amount of air flowing through it.
__________________
If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to power an ants go-cart a half a lap around a Cheerio - Ron Shirley


Quote:
Powered by GE
ltd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-12-2005, 10:20 PM   #20
GTP 320
Blueprint Beast
 
GTP 320's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne Berwick AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,077
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gtfpv
yep catalytic convertors on thier way out . next will be the rattle . .
What rattle are you talking about ?
Cheers John
__________________
FPV & XR Owners Club of Victoria

Leather seats, Premium sound, Sunroof, Satellite Navigation, Reversing sensors, Herrods lowered suspension, Full stainless steel Quad exhaust system, Helix spacer,Open mouth cold air induction,Uni Chip,BMC air filter
GTP 320 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-12-2005, 10:27 PM   #21
gtfpv
GT
 
gtfpv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTP 320
What rattle are you talking about ?
Cheers John
catalytic convertors have a honeycomb mesh plate inside them they get red hot with normal operation. that is how they burn off the unburnt fuel causing less pollution out of the exhaust system . sometimes when they go the mesh parcially dissintegrates and rattles around inside. added edit . i haven't actually seen inside one have just been told this is what can happen . and i have heard them rattle.

Last edited by gtfpv; 15-12-2005 at 10:33 PM.
gtfpv is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2005, 07:14 PM   #22
GTP 044
Formally RED XR8
 
GTP 044's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mornington, Vic
Posts: 1,463
Default

LTD, What u are describing is what happens spot on. Hopefully it means all is ok then. Thanks everyone for your feedback.
GTP 044 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-12-2005, 11:17 PM   #23
Xr_pshhh
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 15
Default

i have also noticed this smell on my other car. If i use for instence safeway fuel, it stinks after some stick, but if i put some optimax in it, the smell isnt evident.
Xr_pshhh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-12-2005, 01:33 PM   #24
ltd
Force Fed Fords
 
ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Enroute
Posts: 4,050
Default

Optimax is refined longer and as such the final cut from the crude has a lower sulphur content than the normal unleaded fuel. Additionally, the higher octane optimax actually burns more evenly in the combustion chamber, and results in less unburnt fuel being sent through the catalytic convertor, meaning it has less unburnt fuel to deal with than the same throttle position and with normal unleaded.

Finally, Malaysia, where a lot of our fuel particularly regular unleaded is refined uses bent crude as well as middle eastern crude for refining - which has a higher sulphur content than the light sweet crude we have in Australia. In Australia, we blend a mixture of crudes to obtain the maximum yield from the cut; as light sweet crude has too low a yield for petroleum products (ie, not that suitable for lubricating oil) when compared to say texan sour crude. Shell do refine optimax here and as such they are using heavy crude with a high sulphur content, blended with light sweet crude with a low sulphur content. The result is, less sulphur in locally refined fuels.
__________________
If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to power an ants go-cart a half a lap around a Cheerio - Ron Shirley


Quote:
Powered by GE
ltd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 18-12-2005, 01:36 PM   #25
Thunder
I.B.S is a pain in d'***
 
Thunder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Central Coast NSW
Posts: 1,431
Default

Yarda yarda yarda.....i can think of some other "deadly" things that smell like off eggs....... :
__________________
I DONT BELIEVE IN NOS.............but if its given to you free at the hospital well then
Thunder is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 18-12-2005, 05:10 PM   #26
Bobman
Regulator
 
Bobman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 4,168
Default

Optimax has a very *high* level of sulphur...
Can't wait for Ultimate to come back
__________________
Regards
Bobby

Current Cars:
2000 AU2 Fairmont (2019-current)
2003 BA1 Falcon Divvy Van (2017-current)
2009 VW Mk6 Golf 118TSi (2020-current)
Previous Cars:
2003 MCX10R Avalon VXi (2017-2020)
1995 EF1 Falcon GLi (2016-2019)
1997 XH2 Falcon Van OPT20 (2016-2019)
2006 BF Fairlane Ghia (2013-2018)
2001 AU3 Futura (2010-2013)
1996 EL Fairmont (2008-2010)
2004 BA XR6 (2005-2008)
2001 AU2 Forte (2005-2006)
1988 EA Fairmont Ghia (2003-2005)
1984 AR Telstar TX5 Ghia (2001-2005)
Bobman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-12-2005, 09:05 AM   #27
ltd
Force Fed Fords
 
ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Enroute
Posts: 4,050
Default

What do you mean?
__________________
If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to power an ants go-cart a half a lap around a Cheerio - Ron Shirley


Quote:
Powered by GE
ltd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 19-12-2005, 10:23 AM   #28
PhatBat
Starter Motor
 
PhatBat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 24
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John McMaster
Thats the carcinogens from the unleaded coming to give you cancer...I'm serious!!!!!!
That is true but geez.....you could have put it more delicate.

Senario

Dr John McMaster: Hi patient....having a great day?
Patient: Yes....thanks fer askin'.... :hihi:
Dr John McMaster: Good...Good.......Oh yeah one thing before I forget....you got cancer. :

I'm just takin the pi$$ out of you cause it just sounded so funny the way you put it.

Cheers
__________________
BlackTrack Tuned - 278rwkw - Bilsteins & Lovells - DBA4000's / QFM003 Pads....nothing else is important
PhatBat is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-12-2005, 08:53 AM   #29
MO
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
MO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: QLD
Posts: 4,446
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatBat
That is true but geez.....you could have put it more delicate.

Senario

Dr John McMaster: Hi patient....having a great day?
Patient: Yes....thanks fer askin'.... :hihi:
Dr John McMaster: Good...Good.......Oh yeah one thing before I forget....you got cancer. :

I'm just takin the pi$$ out of you cause it just sounded so funny the way you put it.

Cheers

LOL....
__________________
FORD RULES OK

The more I know ppl the more I love my DOGS.
2011 SY Territory Limited Edition TS
2000 AUII SE ute IL6
MO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 05:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL