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Old 15-02-2013, 09:42 PM   #1
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Default Meteorite Falls in Eastern Russia

So this happened today in Russia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=4ZxXYscmgRg#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=b7mLUIDGqmw#

Apparently up to 100 where injured

Pretty scary really. Wonder if anyone NASA saw this coming.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/meteo...215-2ei2j.html

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Old 15-02-2013, 09:59 PM   #2
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Does this have something to do with the 2012 DA14 asteroid passing earth?
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Old 15-02-2013, 10:20 PM   #3
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Would have interesting had it fell near trigger happy North Korea!
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Old 15-02-2013, 10:34 PM   #4
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Does this have something to do with the 2012 DA14 asteroid passing earth?

Over Twitter the European Space Agency said there was no link:

https://twitter.com/esa

"RT @esaoperations: ESA experts confirm *no* link between #meteor incidents in #Russia & #Asteroid #2012DA14 Earth flyby of tonight #SSA #NEO"


There's an interesting calculator which models the effects of an asteroid or comet impacting Earth. You can plug in different parameters to see what the effects would be on you at different distances from the impact site:

http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/
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Old 15-02-2013, 10:55 PM   #5
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looks pretty cool i thought, just like the movies really
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Old 16-02-2013, 01:31 AM   #6
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There's an interesting calculator which models the effects of an asteroid or comet impacting Earth. You can plug in different parameters to see what the effects would be on you at different distances from the impact site:

http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/
What a great find! Thanks! Now I know that it takes, ahem, 2.59 x 1027 MegaTons TNT to completely obliterate the planet!
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looks pretty cool i thought, just like the movies really
Movies always seem to have an escape. A Bruce Willis type scenario. I remember a scene from the movie 'Deep Impact', where fragments of the 'Impactor' are witnessed by many, entering the atmosphere. The reality would be, anyone within 50 or more kilometers of such an event, would be instantly incinerated (iow Baconised) - then blasted to pulp by the pressure wave.

See this Wikipedia article about the Tunguska event...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=rflTN4XAt34

There is presently, no escape.

My guess is that this object may have been about the size of car. Possibly an Iron and Nickel bolide that broke up high in the atmosphere, about 20 or more kms in altitude. The explosion sounds are mostly sonic booms, but it does seem that some of the noise is from the destruction of the bolide. When you are travelling at 11+km per second, hitting the thin air above 50 kilometers altitude is like smashing into concrete.

I know a little about astronomy, it's my hobby.

Nice link chambo.

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Crazy stuff, they're saying up to 1000 people were injured, so far no fatalities though. Now we've got an even bigger one passing by today I think.

Would have been badass if the rumour about the Russian airforce shooting it out of the sky was true...
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Over Twitter the European Space Agency said there was no link:

https://twitter.com/esa

"RT @esaoperations: ESA experts confirm *no* link between #meteor incidents in #Russia & #Asteroid #2012DA14 Earth flyby of tonight #SSA #NEO"


There's an interesting calculator which models the effects of an asteroid or comet impacting Earth. You can plug in different parameters to see what the effects would be on you at different distances from the impact site:

http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/

I made 38% of the earth melt LOL
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Thats fantastic!! WOW!

Cant help but be amazed at what we cant do anything about!
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Amazing. The sonic booms were pretty awesome. I must admit if I was in my car watching that ball come towards or over me I would be crapping myself and telling my mrs I love her lol. I have seen enough movies to have known what that was lol.
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Would have interesting had it fell near trigger happy North Korea!
Or even worse the USA! haha! I think half of the world would be blown up! Somehow the public would learn that the "rockets" would have been simultaneously fired from North Korea, Iran, etc etc...
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that pic with the meteor whizzing across the sky , it`s an eye opener, see how much ground it covered, that thing was hauling,
the scary thing to me is no one saw it coming , probably most of the astronomers where looking at the other one that missed us.
edit: now i think about it, i remember seeing a small meteor come down one night some years ago, i was heading east about 5/10 k`d out of horsham (vic), it was north north east of me
i thought it would just phssst in the air, but it had a fire trail all the way to the ground, i had no way of judging size, it could have been 2km`s away or 20 from where i was,
i suspect it would have been the size of a footy or less when it hit the ground.

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Thats fantastic!! WOW!

Cant help but be amazed at what we cant do anything about!
Actually a lot of scientists, Bill Nye in particular believe that given enough time we can divert any and all meteors Hollywood movie style, just his one and the one that apparently exploded over Cuba were missed.
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Old 16-02-2013, 04:14 PM   #15
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i saw one about 10 yrs ago as i was crossing the Storey Bridge in Brissy, fell slowly straight down towards the direction of the airport, leaving a big blue/yellow flame behind it and suddenly just went pop and blinked out of existance. What i saw couldve easily been 500kms away over the ocean, but at night it looked like landing on my bonnet :P
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the scary thing to me is no one saw it coming , probably most of the astronomers where looking at the other one that missed us.
According to astronomers it would have been practically impossible to see coming due to it's size (~15m) and it's direction of approach to Earth (roughly from the sun's direction). Telescopes can't see much looking into blue daylight skies. Asteroids are usually picked up by detecting a light object moving against a dark background.

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What a great find! Thanks! Now I know that it takes, ahem, 2.59 x 1027 MegaTons TNT to completely obliterate the planet!
Handy to know in case adam sandler makes another movie...
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Apparently this is where it hit but? Not sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfeGQR_WQl4
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ya beat me, same thing i was going to post. helps if ya speak russian, but id say thatll be it as it had to land somewhere
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there is an asteroid called 2012 DA14 1200sq km passing between the Earth & Moon tonight, at its closest point, it will be approx 17,200km from the Earths surface and will miss us by 15mins
Meaning, if the Earth was 15mins slower in its rotation, tonight would be messy as its supposed to be passing on our side...if you were standing on it, you would be able to see Australia

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http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...-1226577882092
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there is an asteroid called 2012 DA14 1200sq km passing between the Earth & Moon tonight, at its closest point, it will be approx 17,200km from the Earths surface and will miss us by 15mins
Meaning, if the Earth was 15mins slower in its rotation, tonight would be messy as its supposed to be passing on our side...if you were standing on it, you would be able to see Australia

50m long
200,000 tonne
http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...-1226577882092
travelling at 7.7 km per second,....... ouch...... that`s gonna hurt.
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That would be the Door to Hell in Turkmenistan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_to_Hell
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That would be the Door to Hell in Turkmenistan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_to_Hell
Thats what I thought mate.
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I wonder if the meteorite itself has any precious metals on it?
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they always usually do, but ya cant mine em, theyre not around long enough, the smaller ones like the russian one, well there would be bugger all of it left after landfall
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It just breaks up in the air. Once it hits the atmosphere the friction just heats and destroys it.
If there was anything on it it'd have to be mined in space. But given it was smaller than a bus that hardly seems worth it.
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there is an asteroid called 2012 DA14 1200sq km passing between the Earth & Moon tonight, at its closest point, it will be approx 17,200km from the Earths surface and will miss us by 15mins
Meaning, if the Earth was 15mins slower in its rotation, tonight would be messy as its supposed to be passing on our side...if you were standing on it, you would be able to see Australia

50m long
200,000 tonne
http://www.news.com.au/technology/sc...-1226577882092
So this was visible to the eye here in Oz? Around two weeks ago around dusk i could see something in the sky above the central west horizon (im in Tamworth) with a single tail on it- i saw it two days in a row...

My reaction's when i saw the footage of the Russian meteor was absolute horror then awe then relief lol! Thank god it wasnt any bigger!

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A few more meters in diameter and we wouldn't be talking about shattered glass. If the angle of entry was steeper, one of the effected cities might have become holes.
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The scarcity of evidence on the ground has fuelled scores of conspiracy theories over what caused the fireball.

The area plays host to many defence industry plants, and Nationalist leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky says it could have been "war-mongers" in the United States.

"It's not meteors falling. It's a new weapon being tested by the Americans," he told reporters in Moscow.

Asked about the speculation, an official at the local branch of Russia's Emergencies Ministry simply replied: "Rubbish".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-1...-blast/4523446
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Too many people think all meteors must leave craters...they don't. Most blow up in an air burst, such as this one in Russia did. It was plainly a meteorite and nothing else, and did what you would expect such a small one to do. The "falling stars" we see so spectacularly fall at night sometimes are usually only the size of a grain of sand or rice, not the car sized things we imagine...
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This is where it landed...

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